VeganAwake

Check out from 10:30 ET explains how sneaky and low key this new ego identification can be. He is highly underrated imo.

I would recommend not trying to point out what you understand to people unless they specifically ask you your perspective. It can come off as desperate and needy. Instead, just enjoy life and use what you understand to help bring more love and joy into people's lives. This will influence people to understand you way more than anything else guaranteed. Find someone who loves you back and spread it like wildfire

Oh yeah, I believe it. With me things usually felt slow and meticulous, but some things seemed very quick also. In 2015 I changed a lot of things in my life. I started eating very clean and healthy, meditating almost daily, doing yoga and mindfulness practice/positive affirmations. I thought I was awesome and I felt awesome. My mind was very clear and calm especially from the meditation. Eventually though everything become kind of ordinary and my career really hadn't advanced comparatively to my peers. I started really judging myself negatively. It was almost like an ego backlash or something. It was such a radical shift in perspective that I started investigating closely what was the cause. Self introspection can be very revealing. The ego/self illusion never becomes satisfied. Just that recognition alone can be seemingly profound.

Empty and full It doesn't attempt to make logical sense Reality isn't concerned with human made concepts like "true nature" or "truth" It's exactly what it is without any drama or hesitation

It's based on realizing that identification was a misunderstanding. Similar to realizing Santa Claus isn't real, nothing actually changes because he was never real, but simultaneously it seems different without the belief in him. And there are still memories of how it felt when there was a belief in him. There isn't a real self tangled with an illusory self........there just isn't a self altogether. Nobody gets untangled. And that can feel ordinary and simultaneously terrifying or anything in-between. Like free floating.

A misunderstood test that needed to be taken to understand.

I never mean anything exactly. I hear you!!

It's not a forgetting or detaching either way. It's clearly understanding that it was Never Real from day one. The identification quickly/slowly ends due to that clear understanding. The energy is just no longer supplied to it. But there is still the memories of how it was prior. And that character can still be used sort a speak.

I get that impression also.....good call!! 😃

Luckily it's already everything, so "you" can't miss it!

I get what you mean. I don't know how it feels for him. I think his main message is "you are not the conditioned mind/ego, you are universal consciousness". But he talks about universal consciousness in a very impersonal manner....sooo 🤷‍♂️ I understand what he is saying because that same feeling happened here temporarily, but for me it just felt like a subtle attempt of ego/self identification. That feeling fell away quickly.

I had a very similar experience to what Eckhart Tolle experienced after about a year and a half of meditation (often twice a day/focusing on the breath) One morning I got up and the voice in the head(monkey mind) was silent. It was realized how much identification with thoughts was distracting and influencing my life. I got a lot of work done that day because I could put all of my attention on what I wanted to focus on without distraction. I could still think just fine about what I wanted to think about. It also started becoming clear that this veganawake character I saw myself as, wasn't real. It was like a fictional roll I had been playing for a long time. The settings and the scenery had changed over time, but the character was mostly the same. It became clearer and clearer over the next couple of years. It was a very radical experience especially being sober and level headed at the time. Later it was recognized there never was a veganawake character from the start. It only had seemed to be real. Buddhists I'm sure experience the self character Doing meditation and trying to Attain liberation. But it's an impossibe feat because the self character illusion never finds the peace and wholeness it's longing for. It's never satisfied. Nobody becomes liberated!

It's interesting to watch people functioning within their belief systems. How they experience life from a certain perspective and operate from that interpretation They can seem very immersed and invested in the game of life. Their bubble of reality is usually the center of the focus. Then you can watch yourself watching others and actually realize, there's not big difference, if any at all.

Truth = We are temporary organisms on a planet that sustains life. I would be very skeptical of anyone or any belief system claiming to know more than that.

This is similar to what I would describe as enlightenment. With enlightenment both perspectives are simultaneously the reality and clearly seen to have always been the case. It's understood why there seemed to be that experience of separation.

No Abiding Reality | The Ajata Project https://share.google/lPzt0g8rrQA0SdB2r

Well sure, survival seems to matter from a personal perspective. The fear of pain and death(unknown) is a very powerful emotion. Ultimately nothing matters though because every living organism will eventually die including you and me. Life seems to matter because the alternative, death, is unfamiliar and terrifying for most. Imo, a programed biological desire for survival doesn't necessarily make it important. Both tribes were going to die eventually no matter what. I mean, every single living being from that Era, is now dead........so what did it really matter?..........it didn't actually. It only seemed to matter temporarily. Makes no difference at all in the big picture.

Sometimes choices that seem correct at the time, are later realized to be incorrect. "Nothing mattering" loves preferences and choices. It's the freedom to choose x every time if you want. Wouldn't it be interesting to see the faces of people who spent their entire lives trying to save the planet, only to have a giant meteorite the size of Australia smash into planet earth at 118 times the speed of sound, vaporizing every living organism in an instant? Can you imagine watching that happen from a spaceship in outer space?

@Breakingthewall I get what you mean. I was just sharing the website, because I used to be stationed in the military near Robert Wolfe's home in Ojai, California. Apparently J. Krishnamurti also lived near by. Robert passed away in 2021. Imo, nothing is a recipe or guide to live by........not Ajata, Jim Newman, Tony Parsons, Ramana or Buddha. They are just pointing or attempting to expose something. Let me ask you a question. Did anything matter before you were born? Was anything meaningful or meaningless? When that body dies, do things still matter for the living?

@Breakingthewall It's pointing to impermanence and meaninglessness It's not necessarily a denial of current physical reality but it simultaneously is also. It's a denial of its permanence and meaning. Like a mirage or illusion, it ultimately lacks in reality regardless of the period of time in which it seems to be real. It's not to be logically understood because it's real and simultaneously unreal.

Check out this video, "tony parsons what is awakening" https://share.google/ogkilCQuPRXR6tuYN

I knew repeating over and over would eventually reap benefits 🤣

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It certainly helps to have a concensus on what enlightenment means.

The matrix is living with a guidance system of reality Liberation is recognizing thats bs 🤑