VeganAwake

Anyone can call reality anything they want. It doesn't make it that, or change anything. Calling reality intelligent doesn't change its functionality. Reality being intelligent or specific is a personal perspective. When something has an infinite amount of time to be what it is, it's debatable on the intelligence label imo! Like a person mastering playing the piano over a 40 year period compared to a person mastering it in 2 days.........I would say the 2 day mastery person is far more intelligent. But its all just stories and perspectives. Is a pack of wild wolves more intelligent than the repo business down the street? Is a rock intelligent? Nobody will ever figure out infinity, because it's infinite. And if you weren't physically there to witness and understand all of creation while it was taking shape, then its just a guess.....just hearsay at best! Nothing matters because when you die, there will no longer be a you that ever knew it existed in the first place. Every living organism dies, so for every current living organism, nothing ultimately matters! So when you get down to the brass tacks.........Nothing matters in any way shape or form whatsoever end of story bottom line period no erasies! 🤣

Who is this "you"? It's not actually there, it's an illusion 🤣

No creator, it just happened. Life is life, it doesn't require understanding or meaning. Meaning, purpose and value are all human concepts.

Enlightenment is not a state of being, awareness or way of being. It's not a thing or a way to live life. It's not about anything. It’s not a path to walk or follow. Its the lack of paths, things, ways and abouts. Its the end of conditioned society or reality. It's not better than anything, because it's not a something. It's unattainable because it's nothing. It's the end of religion, spirituality, soul, spirits, life/death, heaven/hell, god/satan, good/bad. It's emptiness & also fullness. Like an empty canvas gratefully empty gratefully dead full and empty simultaneously. Ultimately empty. Ultimate freedom for nobody where nothing was bound or imprisoned from the start.

Everything is truth, but there can be misunderstandings within everything which is also truth.

What is being awake?

Every day is a new day!

I use the word ego sometimes because it seems to land better during communication 🤷 Ego and Self are the same illusion

Yup, Nothing needs to happen, and it's either recognized or not! The running out of steam is the end of identification as it.

A total illusion of identity clearly seen through by nothing 🤯 Try selling that one 🤣

Yep, It's totally illogical and ridiculous because essentially what's being said is......."nothing is identified as being nothing" Ego thinks being nobody is special and then subtly identifies as being nobody 🤣

The ego is very cunning though. It will attempt to then identify as 'nondual consciousness' often referred to as 'spiritual ego' Very rarely is this trick of the ego recognized. Ego = identification Disentangling from this whole identification misunderstanding is extremely rare.............like 1 in 950,000 rare it seems 😳

It doesn't dissapear because it's not actually there.....it just seems like it is.....that's why this rare phenomenon is often described as an illusion! The program gets interrupted due to clearly seeing its not real. Similarly to recognizing Santa Claus isn't real........try all you want......Christmas is forever changed.....never to return the way it seemed when Old Saint Nick was thought to be coming to town 😉

But why even concern about that? Every single human being will eventually die. You won't be alive anymore to know you once lived. Having a good or bad life doesn't mean anything. It doesn't matter if the entire planet is vaporized by an atomic bomb and aliens arrive to grow an incredible garden using our charcoaled remains as fertilizer. Basically anyone's conditioned beliefs and personal opinions about reality, do not matter at all. This is freedom already whether it's realized or not. Absolutely nothing matters! It's complete hopeless, radical freedom.

This belief doesn't matter in anyway whatsoever. Every living thing eventually dies. Ultimately, nothing matters in any way shape or form relatively or absolutely It's true freedom which was already the case.

It's also rocket science according to you 😅

It was just a response, doesn't mean anything for you obviously 😇 Take care also!

Who's meaning? I'm referring to there 'not being' an ultimate or universal purpose/meaning. Every socially conditioned individual is of course going to claim that life has meaning, purpose and value, and actually think it's an all-encompassing concept.........that's just how people think and are taught. But that's just egoic perception or personal opinions! Look deeper 👀

After 45 you eat an air burger and still gain 3lbs

Lots of socializing and free food usually 😋

It wasn't a state. It was a crystal clear realization that there wasn't a ME inside or outside of the physical body. That which seemingly felt like a separate individual, had never been real from the start. It was between 2016 - 2018. Lots of shorter meditations focused on the breathing only and self inquiry (who am I; what does I consist of; where is I located) It was strange, but not a confusing/disorienting experience. It almost seemed ordinary and obvious, and simultaneously radical.......hard to put into words!

Nobody becomes limitless. It's limitless for nothing and nobody, so to even call it limitlessness, doesn't make any sense. It's not anything for anybody. It's like death, which is simultaneously freedom, but for nobody. So it's not even freedom or death because nothing dies & nobody is free Ego of course wants to be a limitless somebody. It's impossible. It's hopeless. Nobody reaps the so-called benefits! The ego or self illusion would never pursue enlightenment if it actually knew what it reveals. It's not a new mental state, paradigm, perspective or world view. It's not a something thats attainable, it's nothing. Enlightenment = 0 Ego only seeks enlightenment because it thinks it's something special or advantageous. It thinks it will be a special or superior being. It cannot grasp its own unreality, and when it IS seemingly grasped, it's because it collapsed or its recognized to have never actually existed. Nor is it a recognition, it's absolutely nothing. Enlightenment =

But simultaneously reality having no meaning doesn't necessarily induce chaotic behavior or anarchy. Most prefer a more calm relaxed non violent or chaotic atmosphere/environment 🤔

@LastThursday @oOo Nothing is closer or further away from truth because there isn't anything separate from everything. There can be misunderstandings within everything, which seem to create a "true vs false comparison" There isn't a right or wrong path to walk because there isn't real meaning or purpose. And without meaning there can't be right vs wrong. In other words, reality is complete anarchy. That's why religion was created, to control the population.

We can certainly claim anything as anything. I am whatever you say I am.