VeganAwake

When there is an identification as the separate 'me' character in the body, there can seem to be beliefs held onto. That entire construct is an illusion...❤

@Dodo I was referring to the formless part of your statement in reference to using intellect. I was attempting to get you to physically look and see that the 'me' character isn't real. There's a major experiential difference between intellectually hearing the 'me' character is an illusion, and actually looking & seeing it's not there. There is no 'your' enlightenment because enlightenment is the dissolving of the separate 'me' character within the dream story. And in that sense, Enlightenment is a non happening because there never was a separate 'me' that even could be dissolved... that's why it's referred to as an illusion.... and that's why the statement "you are already enlightened" makes no sense from the separate 'me' character's perspective. From the 'me' character's perspective there's all kinds of spiritual work that needs to be done prior to liberation. When the 'me' character dies, its recognized for the first time, that the only thing that felt like something was missing was the illusion of 'me'. Then it's just being ❤

Mind matrix gone ramped ?

Well that is intellectual...(thinking) There is apparently a body with senses right!! (you can physically check and look) Can you physically locate the 'me'? Can you physically Look and find the 'me' and touch it? ❤

Also maybe Insurance can pay for a chiropractic visit or something. I know tension in the back, shoulders and neck can cause all kinds of issues in the body... pinched nerves weird things like that. Or maybe 30 minutes hot tub or sauna then massage and maybe a mild muscle relaxer could be prescribed. ❤

Who knows I'm that? Who is 'I' that knows? What makes up that 'I'?

There just never was a separate 'you' standing in the way or letting everything go.

This is great inquiry!! Who or what is actually identifying with these thoughts? Take a close look.

You're belief on whether this is true or not makes NO difference in any way at ALL... in fact you could go on 'your' entire apparent existence believing I'm a deluded butthole... and that still wouldn't make any difference in any way at ALL... Do you see that you are free and unreal!! You are not Consciousness ; you are not Awareness; you are not at all!! Again.....Your belief on whether this is true or not makes no difference in any way at all!! I'm not here to take away all the conditioned beliefs that Mommy and Daddy or Grammy and Grandpa instilled...that's for you to figure out. ❤

Well that's the crazy part, no one is speaking to no one. The beliefs are just emptiness appearing as fullness or something real.

There can still be creating money without the belief that it's important...

You don't have anything to think about other than meaning purpose and value has no real meaning.

Remember nothing has changed...THIS doesn't adjust. The way that THIS is perceived adjusts.

LOOK closely and see if 'you' can pin point the individual who wants to have mystical experiences.

Well don't take my word for it LOOK for yourself! The 'ME' illusion is a collaboration of conditioned labels, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, concepts, memories, and constricted energy stored in the body creating an experience of a separate individual. Good looking out ❤

You bet!!

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There's no real moving forward, and there is no way something is supposed to be... so in that sense spiritual bypassing doesn't exist... you can jump from rock to rock or drudge through the mud or a little of both... it doesn't matter. There's not something higher than the self, there just never was a self. Liberation is the untangling from the Mind Matrix of Social Conditioning and simultaneously recognizing the individual that seemed to be tangled up or conditioned was actually never real to begin with...it was an illusion or misidentification.

You should also write down everything you're experiencing.... Can be a therapeutic way to get things off your chest ❤ California Florida Cancun Okinawa Japan Guam...

Well yeah it's easier when there has been some deep disidentification or clearly seeing through the 'ME' illusion. This is why meditation/yoga/inquiry/ psychedelics/no mind or Samadhi stilling of the whirlwind of mind can be so powerful. When you go into any practice with the intent of dropping the 'ME' it can subtly reinforce the belief that it's a real entity to begin with. This is why emptying the glass completely is often necessary or helpful but of course not always an absolute must.

? ❤ very cool

Good interview man, you really ask great questions. Enjoyed that thx..it was motivating.

My bad...I was trying to rile you up a bit hehe..❤ love ya bro and thanks for not being too harsh back to me ?

I get what you're saying really interesting to think about...