VeganAwake

Stop taking this s*** so seriously!! You are already home just bask in it. It's already unknowable just let it be. ITS THIS!!!

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THIS remains It's not a problem because it was already the case prior to recognizing it. Remember it's not about avoidance negation or rejection... Its seeing clearly and it's completely ordinary and simultaneously extraordinary ❤

Yep and that's the freedom for no-one and from nothing ?

That's it ?

By recognizing there's actually nothing to do. Everything is already a non-dual experience, it's just whether it's recognized or not. When you're not identified with the mind's habitual thinking and feeling like a separate individual in a great big confusing world... there is just BEing Be the Watcher of thoughts not the identifier ❤

@Breakingthewall the disentangling from the socially conditioned mind Matrix ? Guess what? there's no going back because it never really existed ? All is well and you're right where you should be!!

Well I know I probably sound like an anal nutcase.? It's just being pointed out... that which has no real goal, end result or ultimate meaning/purpose has no real importance either. It's like a deep understanding underneath the "Serious Game of Life". Because of course I don't tell my chief that nothing matters and it's not of any importance, I would be kicked out of the Navy on a medical/mental discharge before retirement. It's an internal relaxing underneath the character in The Game of Life that sits back and smiles when things seem to get hectic or anything in between. There's a feeling that you already know this but I just thought I would say it ❤

No, not important in any way at all. Importance is just mind concept. ❤

It's not the emptiness or nothingness that most people think. It's nothing AND everything Nothing in the sense that there's nothing behind it, it's empty...no real meaning purpose or value... no goal if you will. Everything in the sense that it's an explosion of light color sound smell taste feel experience. There's a conditioned body/mind that sees and senses everything, but what's behind it? Is there a real Observer?

You already said it's not logical go with that one ? Plus who cares it's not important anyways. Only thing that believes it's important is the mind running in circles trying to figure out the unknowable ?

What occurred here was the recognition that the individual or the self was just an illusory character consisting of a web of conditioned thoughts and beliefs identified with as ME. It was so clearly seen that it became laughable at how much suffering occurred around something that was never real to begin with. There seems to be a lot of different experiences with Awakening but you will know when you have found what's longed for by the unmistakable freedom that entails. ❤

@traveler ? excellent ?

No tightness here bro... all is well ❤ thank you for thinking of me!! I hope you're doing well also my friend

@Breakingthewall you might find this interesting. ❤ Ajata Project (Robert Wolfe)

@WelcometoReality okay I understand what you mean ❤

Nope you're not going to trick me... you are already perfect. The dictator that judges whether something is a flaw or a strength is just the conditioned mind. A flaw to one person might be seen as a strength to another. They cancel each other out and equal 0. Value meaning purpose truth flaw strength reason right wrong good bad All conditioned mind made concepts.... Perfection is already the case whether anyone agrees with it or not. See Perfection doesn't require agreeance with it... it's just the case ❤

There needs to be an openness and a willingness to trust/empty the glass. Everything's already been said. "The Greatest Obstacle to Discovery Is Not Ignorance—It Is the Illusion of Knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin

"Hope" is just another way of saying I'm looking to find a better experience in the future. And there's no such thing as a real "reason" because that would imply there is a goal. There is no real goal and therefore no real reason for anything. Hope & Reason are just conditioned mind bullshit. Just the mind running on the hamster wheel endlessly....take a look for yourself and ? ❤

Well after awakening it's recognized there never was an individual that left square one to begin with. It was just the mind believing it was getting or going somewhere. It's the disentangling from the socially conditioned mind matrix known as 'ME'. ❤

What is I..?

There's no you either, let's be fair about this.

"deeply held belief" could be replaced with "strong underlying assumption" See most start with the "strong underlying assumption" that they are a separate individual that can one day find something to make them whole or complete. Like starting a journey with a map of the wrong territory. The entire 'self' structure is just the accumulation of knowledge and experience. Layers upon layers or webs of thought that create this illusory 'ME' character that we identify as. You can be told this a thousand times but it needs to be looked at and seen there. So it's not believing, it's LOOKING and SEEING. ❤

@WelcometoReality it needs to be recognized that it's just the mind running on the hamster wheel endlessly looking for something. The first misunderstanding is that there's something missing that needs to be found. The second misunderstanding is that I or some Guru might have it. It's actually the opposite.... see there is the deeply held belief there, that there is something to find that will provide a better experience in the future such as the idea of enlightenment. That experience of something missing or incompleteness is illusory. So it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack only the needle and the seeker are both unreal... see the issue!! There's nothing to find and no one to find it, the experience of seeking is the mind believing there's something missing, and keeping the illusion upheld that there's a separate individual that can one day find it.

?Enlightenment is the recognition that there never was a sufferer to begin with( it was just the mind identified with as ME)