VeganAwake

? The separate sense of self places an overlay of meaning purpose and value over top of reality and operates from that perspective/dream story. There's nothing right or wrong with it that's just the case. So reality is an empty happening and then along comes the conditioned sense of self which creates a story out of this empty happening placing meaning purpose and value on to everything and operating from the self centered view. Again there's nothing right or wrong with it that just seems to be the case ❤

The separate sense of self would expect there to be a grand firework show upon awakening because that's what it thinks must happen, but It can also actually be quite ordinary. It's a disentangling from the socially conditioned Matrix of mind known as 'ME' ❤

But the layers aren't real, that's the illusory self that can be seen through ❤

Like shouting for silence or fighting for peace ?

@Forestluv What Jim's pointing to is, the experience 'you' felt watching this video is completeness being experienced as something other than completeness. ❤

@Someone here it's real and unreal Watch at 4:15 ❤

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It can be random and sought after. "Do not seek illumination unless you seek it as a man whose hair is on fire seeks a pond" - Sri Ramakrishna ❤

Values and morals are socially conditioned mind made concepts. So in that sense the only thing making them seem real are conditioned patterns of thinking. ❤

Only when the bucket is emptied out

When the ME/ego/individual is clearly seen to be unreal, it may continue to lead for a while but just like when the bottom of the bucket falls out it will never hold water again. ❤

Can everything be looked upon with childlike eyes and wonder? Recognizing there's nothing Inherently good or bad about anything because that's just the conditioned mind steering one direction or the other... Keep the middle path!!... Keep open and empty...Not for or against anything...

Very cool I'm finishing up my career in the Navy currently in Port Hueneme California. I visit Spokane all the time if you private message me your phone number I can give you a call next time I visit ? My mom and sister Live in the Deer Park area

For the ego there's always something else that needs to be done, that's how it keeps itself alive. ❤

Hey I resemble that remark

Stop taking this s*** so seriously!! You are already home just bask in it. It's already unknowable just let it be. ITS THIS!!!

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THIS remains It's not a problem because it was already the case prior to recognizing it. Remember it's not about avoidance negation or rejection... Its seeing clearly and it's completely ordinary and simultaneously extraordinary ❤

Yep and that's the freedom for no-one and from nothing ?

That's it ?

By recognizing there's actually nothing to do. Everything is already a non-dual experience, it's just whether it's recognized or not. When you're not identified with the mind's habitual thinking and feeling like a separate individual in a great big confusing world... there is just BEing Be the Watcher of thoughts not the identifier ❤

@Breakingthewall the disentangling from the socially conditioned mind Matrix ? Guess what? there's no going back because it never really existed ? All is well and you're right where you should be!!

Well I know I probably sound like an anal nutcase.? It's just being pointed out... that which has no real goal, end result or ultimate meaning/purpose has no real importance either. It's like a deep understanding underneath the "Serious Game of Life". Because of course I don't tell my chief that nothing matters and it's not of any importance, I would be kicked out of the Navy on a medical/mental discharge before retirement. It's an internal relaxing underneath the character in The Game of Life that sits back and smiles when things seem to get hectic or anything in between. There's a feeling that you already know this but I just thought I would say it ❤

No, not important in any way at all. Importance is just mind concept. ❤

It's not the emptiness or nothingness that most people think. It's nothing AND everything Nothing in the sense that there's nothing behind it, it's empty...no real meaning purpose or value... no goal if you will. Everything in the sense that it's an explosion of light color sound smell taste feel experience. There's a conditioned body/mind that sees and senses everything, but what's behind it? Is there a real Observer?