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@WaveInTheOcean there's nothing wrong with hating reality brother. Fuck the emotions & F*** reality and f*** everything Freedom is saying f*** it all

Leo, But what if love and evil were recognized to be nothing other than culturally conditioned concepts smashed into your mind by fear of death.

Who is aware? Where is that you? Can it be pin pointed?

There isn't a 'YOU' though. Its an illusion. And I'm not talking about the body..... I'm talking about that which claims it's MY body. ❤

"It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is. ' Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." - Jesus

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It's about everything & nothing in particular, including sitting, laying, sleeping, working, driving, exercising. Its THIS... and it seems hidden by being everything ❤

Probably not.. This is not about detachment or no mind. It's recognizing EVERYTHING as being IT. Nothing is excluded including thoughts or thinking. Freedom wouldn't be very free if it excluded anything. ❤

Exactly but that skewed perception or misunderstanding of being an individual from the beginning is what ultimately leads to suffering... the feeling of being separate, that something is missing and needs to be found. You can't understand it with the mind and it's completely illogical to the sense of self. That's why it's called Awakening, there must be a cessation of self. ❤

But that suggests the ego or sense of self is real in the first place. There is already no one to be free or be imprisoned.... so in that sense THIS is already Liberation disguised as something else. Ego = Separation = Misunderstanding In the dream story Enlightenment or Liberation would need to be achieved by someone or something who would reap the benefits. But Liberation/Enlightenment is the recognition that the individual never actually existed.... hence nobody becomes enlightened, nobody wakes up, nobody achieves liberation. There is no way to end an illusion because it already isn't there....see the apparent issue?(hamster wheel effect) So who recognizes it? NOBODY! No one enters the gateless gate so be nobody. ❤ 34:08 - 34:24

Well its not an achievement, its the recognition that the achiever never existed. Its the end of identifying as someone that wasn't real in the first.

There is apparently a conditioned body but the individual that experiences I am here, conscious and real is an illusion.

? just saying hi ...hadn't heard from you in awhile ?

Are 'you' still trying to find something? What has been found?

Watch the mind, how often is it incorrect. How often does it jump to conclusions and judgements that later on are proven to be not the case. Mind can be a great tool and simultaneously turn into a runaway monkey train with no driver. Just watch it ❤

Check out 16:18 - 18:45 Also there is a good understanding there. Remember you can't really interrupt something that isn't real(limitations of dualistic language) it can be seen clearly to have never existed though, if that makes sense. Yes, there seems to be a character remaining.... the remnants of the old me. Explore that ...what is it ...what does it consist of? Not with the mind.... actually look and see. ❤

Thank god no one gets it for fuck sake ?... joke ❤

Create a gap between the thoughts and that which seems to identify with them.

Seems to be permanently changing... you can have faith in that. Some kind of boundless energy of sorts. But that's just a story within the boundlessness.

Something similar happened when I was doing yoga at a Shakti Festival from this famous yoga instructor out of LA a couple years back. I don't recall the type of yoga but I remember tears also running down my face like an energy overload. I never knew there was that much energy in the body.

It doesn't matter what its called. You can name a volleyball wilson or call a dog a chicken. Enlightenment is the end of concepts about what THIS is....its the end of conceptualizing reality as this, that or the other. Its the end of placing illusory concepts over top of reality and operating from that perspective. And its an inner recognition rather than a direct experience. Freedom for no one ❤

Love that ? And the so-called collapse is the recognition that there was never anything separate to begin with.....its an un-happening sort of speak. Freedom is the end of concepts. ❤