VeganAwake

There aren't any real individuals debating and comparing concepts on this forum or anywhere else. There are just concepts mistakenly being identified with as 'MY' concepts or 'THEIR' concepts thus perpetuating the illusion of 'ME' and 'THEM'. Nothing vs Nothing... Everything vs Everything... Conditioning vs Conditioning... Points of view vs Points of view stemming from an illusory center point that never occurred but was experienced as real. The freedom longed for appears to be hidden by being everything. So in that sense there's nothing to do or find because everything is already whole, complete and perfectly THIS... there is nothing missing already. THIS can be recognized immediately because all there is is immediacy.

another way to say it might be, There is an experience of an individual that with enough searching can hopefully one day realize the truth and be set free.

No because the meaning of collapse is pointing to the recognition that the Duality/Separation never existed in the first place.

Yes, there pointing to the same freedom, but can be easily misunderstood by the 'ME'. Yep, no one detaches, defends, notices, or appreciates. ?

Correct, But there is a subconscious belief that adopting this outlook will benefit someone. THIS isn't about denial, detachment or adopting a "it doesn't matter" attitude. Its clearly recognized by no one that the beneficiary was an illusion. Nobody becomes enlightened, no one awakens. Nobody enters the gateless gate.

Yes, there are no ME's ? Its so under the nose that its already the case.(the cosmic joke) There is no one to convince already. Keep LOOKING at this...no one is getting very warm.

It's adorable yet gets old fast for who? There isn't a " "...?

@Nahm it probably sounds very contradicting. Its recognizing there isn't an individual in the first place in which could detach from thinking. Thinking apparently occurs, but there's no one doing the thinking. And that presumed identity creates the dream story or experience of duality...I am here, and everything/everyone else is out there and I need to defend myself and my beliefs. ❤

When I see the thick it makes me think red beans and rice didn't miss her.... she probably makes yummy jambalaya ❤

Your already ❤....why are you here?

I know ❤

@Adamq8 ❤

Your version of love is the denial of death. My version of love is recognition of death. ❤

Its hard work for who? There isn't a you..... Attaching/disattaching....who does that? It's an illusion man

Explode on reality and tell it to f*** off.

@WaveInTheOcean there's nothing wrong with hating reality brother. Fuck the emotions & F*** reality and f*** everything Freedom is saying f*** it all

Leo, But what if love and evil were recognized to be nothing other than culturally conditioned concepts smashed into your mind by fear of death.

Who is aware? Where is that you? Can it be pin pointed?

There isn't a 'YOU' though. Its an illusion. And I'm not talking about the body..... I'm talking about that which claims it's MY body. ❤

"It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is. ' Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." - Jesus

Just the important parts

It's about everything & nothing in particular, including sitting, laying, sleeping, working, driving, exercising. Its THIS... and it seems hidden by being everything ❤