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Enlightenment seems difficult because the ego is not in the business of dropping anything, it hoards its collection of so-called spiritual knowledge/experience and defends it like a guard dog. It thinks by dropping, it will lose its progress on the so-called spiritual path. Enlightenment is the ultimate threat to the ego and simultaneously the freedom longed for. It will fight tooth and nail to have its cake and eat it too. It wants to be there to reap the benefits of what it believes enlightenment entails. But this is impossible because Enlightenment is the end of the individual which believes it can acquire or have it. The constant seeking only perpetuates the belief that there's something to find something to acquire something to be realized something to be embodied. "The ego says seek but do not find" - A Course In Miracles Enlightenment reveals the absurdity of constantly running on the hamster wheel searching for a better experience in the future. It throws out the baby with the bathwater, smashes the bathtub and burns the house down. It reveals the freedom that was always the case but just didn't seem to be. ❤

@OneIntoOne she is good and absolutely awakened. ?

The thinking isn't the so-called issue, its the identification as the thinker. Ego = identification Like someone already mentioned, the subtle habitual self-referential thinking has been going on for so long it's not even noticed. A self-perpetuating wheel of identification.... like a stray cat, as long as you keep feeding it, it keeps coming back. There is nothing right or wrong with this thought identification and to label it as such would just be a conditioned concept.

Well it transcends the concepts of difficult, easy or frustrating by revealing that the very individual which labels anything as such, is just another concept and ultimately unreal. ❤

@Blackhawk because you are running around seeking something that was never missing and perpetuating the belief that there is something to find... kind of like someone searching for their glasses when there on their head. Enlightenment is the revelation that the very individual seeking for a better experience in the future is completely illusory. It's freedom for no one which is already the case. ❤

Is it lmao?

Winning phrase of the day is: LMAO ❤

Yes everything is just what it is. ? Then the illusory individual places an overlay of meaning purpose and value over top of reality and functions from that perspective creating a dreamlike story about what THIS is. It's full and empty simultaneously and that's just another story.

? ❤ 29:45 - 33:00

Haha yeah no joke bro the mind is stubborn like a mule ?

@Raptorsin7 Just focus on the In and Out breathing. When you notice yourself getting caught up in thinking, bring the focus back to the breath. If the thinking becomes overwhelming don't resist it, just simply notice it and then bring the focus back to the breath. Just go for 20 minutes in the morning afternoon and evening when you can. ❤

Well, whenever that feeling of "this is not it arises" hit yourself in the head with a hammer. It will become clear eventually ❤

Nothing is wasted because there isn't a real goal which needs to be attained. It was fun wasn't it? Back in my younger days we would go to barter fairs and trade things for LSD mushrooms and weed. We were partying and escaping the so-called confines of reality. Later it was recognized those confines were never real to begin with. It was always freedom.

? your welcome, it was a futile attempt here to describe nothing. But nothing is known here because nothing is unknowable. ❤

Yes monkey mind and self referential thinking become a runaway train in life. When I is clearly seen to be an illusion the energy that was put into upholding that illusory identity drastically dies down. Here it wasn't a forgetting who I thought I was or how to function in life, but recognizing I was never a real in the first place. ❤

Cool experience ?, What happened here was after a couple years of desperate seeking and lots of meditation, one random day it just become obvious that this ME character that I was identified as, wasn't real. That this I was more of an assumption or concept that just kept playing over and over again in thought. It felt like this weight that wasn't even noticed before was lifted away. Weird thing was it felt completely ordinary and shocking simultaneously. Needless to say life has been a lot less serious since this occurred back in 2018. Liberation from the self that took the dream way too seriously ❤

Yeah that's right. Oneness points to the recognition that the individual experiencer within the body is an illusion. (Adviata) While sunyata declares even that apparent experience of no separation as ultimately illusory. (Ajata) If you're interested check out Robert Wolfe's Ajata Sunyata Project: "The seeming person continues to live out her life (from supposed “birth” to “death”) in a seeming world, in a seeming universe. Yet, in what could be said to be the true or ultimate reality of emptiness, not anything ever has, or could, happen. From the ultimate standpoint, there is not anything that ever needs to be explained. Any questions which arise and any answers are within the Dream–and the Dream is not real. Those who understand this, the sages would say, have awakened from the big Dream. Whether one does or does not, in the end, makes absolutely no difference. But for those who do awaken, all their questions–within the Dream–are seen to be utterly empty" - Robert Wolfe

Sounds like you need a nice long vacation away from them and their opinions. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

You could save money, teach yourself how to live off the land and go off grid. It may be harder but you could work for yourself at least.

Yes people are caught up in the rat race trying to survive... It's not right or wrong it's just what's apparently happening. They simply can't help but put their self agenda as priority for survival because they believe they're a real separate individual within the body. When this is seen clearly there can be a loosening up of the seriousness of life.... kind of like getting into a really good movie but knowing they are just actors playing out a drama. But start with seeing this within yourself first. ❤

I have an imaginary pet dog, his will seems to be to sniff butts, chase squirrels and slobber. I am desperately trying to align my will with his but I got smacked really hard with a cane yesterday for sniffing a butt so lately I've been quite hesitant to continue this pursuit.

"The ‘me’ is a bundle of memories, empty words: that is what we cling to; the very essence of the separation between you and me, they and we." - J krishnamurti This episode of Leo's goes along quite well with this topic... didn't see it until just now.

that's good ?

Labeling apparent reality as God is perfect and simultaneously flawed.

I hope you're not planning on hurting yourself.❤ I realize you may be talking about ego death or the recognition that it isn't real.