VeganAwake

Gotcha, yea! Here it just became so obvious that it wasn't real, it's as if it became starved of energy overtime. Like a water valve slowly being turned off. Tension in the body drastically decreased as well! ❤️

Dissolving is one way to describe it. Here it was more like a clear realization that "I" was just never there from the start...... "I" only seemed to be there! It wasn't like forgetting who "I" was or where "I" lived or what "my" prior life was like. At a certain point during inquiry, it just became super obvious that this "ME" character was not a real entity...... It definitely seemed radical and awkward at the time......like a weight of burden lifted off the shoulders. Point being, it was not something forced...... Like you described...... it's more like clearly seeing these layers of personal stories, thoughts, beliefs, labels, etc etc......... simply did not equal a real character called "ME" So nothing really dissolved even. The recognition was just so obvious....... It was more like "huh, there isn't a ME interesting" 😲 It was radical and ordinary simultaneously There's nothing to force........ less forcing more recognizing 🤣😅😂 ❤️

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Here that revelation of nonduality occurred simultaneously with the recognition of the "self construct/ego", being completely unreal. When there isn't a real observer, who would be attempting to validate or self deceive? It's that damn illusion again lol ❤️

During that euphoric expansion experience, the ego/sense of self seemingly collapses back into everything temporarily. It feels like an expansion of consciousness or a merging of infinity. But then what happens is the ego/sense of self, regathers, sneaks in the backdoor and claims said experience as its own! It could actually be described as the harsher form of ego backlash. The birth of the spiritual ego or higher self is here ladies and gentlemen....yay! And this version of ego knows everything about everything lol. ❤️

@Salvijus That experience of the sense of self expanding to infinity was just spiritual ego bud......nothing more! That's exactly why you behave as you do! Spiritual Ego or Higher Self is an even more difficult illusion because it now uses false or misunderstood experience to back up its illusory existence. That phenomenon was recognized here clearly and early on thankfully! Good luck though with imaginary breakthroughs 😆 ❤️

Think about yourself for a few minutes deeply. Think about how others might view you also. Does what others think about you, make it true? Does what you think about yourself, make it true? Do thoughts make someone period? One person may say you're great and the next person may say you're a dumb shit. All opinions about you, including your own, simply DO NOT make an individual.........opinions do not make anything. Opinions and thoughts are empty of meaning.......they are just like clouds blowing in the wind, or sounds exiting the mouth! So who are you without thoughts and opinions?

Yes, But it seems only when it's clearly recognized there first, does it become obvious elsewhere after!

I've is the apparent issue because there isn't one! 🤣 So there actually isn't a real issue 🤔 Illusions creating unreal issues, is the real issue........what a conundrum! ❤️

Yes exactly, The illusion wants to experience freedom or enlightenment. It can't grasp its not real. It's recognized outside of that self illusion ❤️

@Sugarcoat Those self referential thoughts have been happening almost that entire body's existence...... Don't underestimate the wheel of self-referential thinking

Yup, Nobody is recognizing it.......it's just recognized or not ❤️

That's exactly right ❤️

There isn't a you! There is just a thought about you observing,which seems to be real!

Who the fuck wants to become awake? Show me that motherfucker right now? Front and center! DO IT!!!!!!

Who is observing? What makes up the "you've" that's done tons of observing?

Who wants to be awake? Where does that energy come from? Look closely 👀 ❤️

There is nothing to defend. God, ego and no self are exactly the same everything..........that's what nonduality is pointing out. Who is full of shit? The illusion would be, believing they are separate things. ❤️

These people saying things like this have only had glimpses of enlightenment or no self. What happens is, its underestimated how sneaky and convincing the ego or self illusion actually is. See, the ego becomes threatened during these glimpses and takes a different, extra sneaky approach........"I recognize I am not this small self, but yet I am still here existing"; "Well then, I must be everything"; I am all of existence"; "I must be the creator of all" "I am God" This is what's often referred to as "The Spiritual Ego" or "Super Ego"! Its like ego on steroids essentially 😄 These people are not enlightened! Sure they may be temporarily experiencing unalloyed happiness, joy and peace.....the ego or illusion of self is relentless.....trust. But it can always be spotted because it's Identification itself......whether it believes itself to be a small human self or God itself, doesn't matter.......all that matters is its an Identification to keep on keeping on.......it will fight tooth and nail for Identification.......it's all it knows! Liberation doesn't happen for a someone. Nobody becomes enlightened or ever will. It's so damn funny and or surprising when it's recognized......it truly is a cosmic joke ❤️

Well then thats what's being experienced there! Sounds whole and complete! 💗

It doesn't make any sense to say someone is bypassing, if there isn't a real right or wrong path in the first place! The illusion isn’t the appearance.......the illusion is that the appearance MEANS something. The human lives in an illusion or dream story of meaningfulness.(matrix) Nothing matters, nothing is actually meaningful, nothing holds any value, there isn't something to recognize, there isn't a spiritual level to attain or secret knowledge to uncover. There isn't a better experience waiting in the future. It's full of appearance and completely empty of meaning, purpose and value. It's totally empty and complete simultaneously. It doesn't have a particular goal because anything that happens is the goal sorta speak! ❤️

You want an update on reality? Do you think a lot has changed since 2019? 😁 ❤️

It's not a forgetting or amnesia like state..........it's more like realizing deeply that all these numerous things, that seem to make-up a separate identity, actually do not. Its Noticing these separate thoughts and feelings of identity in the body/mind habitually cycling over & over again (web of beliefs)......constantly reconfirming this self illusion. When it's seen clear enough, it's almost like this cycle is interrupted and it begins to collapse altogether. The body will always pursue survival by instinct......but that which experiences suffering and is afraid of death, is that very self illusion ❤️

But she's also pointing out that even the individual respectively experiencing the so-called "now", is also delusion.......big difference 😳 ❤️