VeganAwake

What is you (the body) seeking or searching for?

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Gotcha, yes I understand what you're saying. When the word illusion is used here it's pointing to an experience that seems real but is completely unreal. ❤

The word points to the end of the experience of separation or enlightenment, samadhi, nirvana, awakening, moksha, liberation, freedom, paradise, this. ❤

There just isn't someone there waiting to attain mahasamadhi. That's the cosmic joke. Like a self-perpetuating illusion, the waiting/seeking perpetuates the belief that there is in fact a real individual that can one day arrive at enlightenment. This never happens. Enlightenment is the recognition there was never someone separate from it in the first place. ❤

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This seems to be a common misunderstanding with seeking non-dual perception or what not. Non-dual awareness isn't an attempt to metaphorically smash everything together as one non-dual soup or something. (a tree will always appear different than a bear for example) The end of the experience of separation is the recognition that the ME within the body is an illusion. An internal recognition instead of an external experience so to speak. No real separate individuals = No real separation. ❤

It can also disrupt the habitual patterns of thinking and identification with.

It's exactly what's happening including asking if it's for serious or fun.

Yes like a self-perpetuating illusion. It's so immediate and basic that it seems complex. A thought or feeling of intention arises, the body then either reacts or not. THAT'S IT!! There isn't anyone inside the body thinking and doing the actions. No owner!! There seems to be, I get that .....but there's no one actually there. It's so ordinary and extraordinary! So already the case it seems hidden! ❤

No self/cessation/liberation is not an experience, it's a recognition. Cessation of self cannot be experienced because it's the end of the sense of individuality to have a personal experience. But there already isn't a self for cessation to even take place.... so in that sense it doesn't even really happen. That's why it's often said that Enlightenment is already the case. ❤

Nevermind the body for now. I'm speaking about the seeking energy that feels like there's something that needs to be understood or known.... the feeling that the answer is just around the next corner somewhere. Is this your experience?

The body can type and respond to messages but it's empty. The personalized experience of individuality and doership within the body is the unreal part. There isn't a real you or me within the body, its an illusion of self. The end of seeking is the recognition the seeker isn't real. ❤

@Jiri Kuokkanen Yeah you got it, it's so obvious it seems hidden. So-called Consciousness is just the body's senses. There's no one inside the body experiencing it, that's the illusion of self. When the body dies the so-called experience of consciousness goes with it. Don't take my word for it, it's just obvious right. You will hear all kinds of spiritual mumbo-jumbo here.... most enjoy living in la la land because they fear death. ❤

The sense of being an individual is overwhelmingly unsatisfactory. So it continues running on the hamster wheel searching for something that was never lost. Sometimes it's recognized this seeker isn't real.... and then there's just everything which includes an unsatisfied seeking energy ❤

Well there isn't a self so good luck on that infinite search... Let me know how it turns out

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When this is recognized by NO ONE, it's simultaneously recognized that there was never any real separation from the start because the apparent separation was an illusion. This is why so-called spiritual masters say Enlightenment is already the case. Because there already isn't any real separation. The separation is an illusory experience. ❤

Cheese and f****** rice, it isn't a real thing! What you're doing is saying it's real and then trying to justify it. The Ego is like a huge bundle or web of different things which seem to create a personal identity: beliefs ideas concepts preferences dislikes knowledge career experiences.... all which seem to create this big important self construct. This huge bundle of identification does not equal a real individual.... it's an illusion of self. There's no one underneath it. It's a misidentification happening to no one. ❤

The word ego is pointing to the illusory sense of identification as this or that. It's the experience of separation. Sometimes the ego hears about something called enlightenment and it embarks on a journey (hamster wheel effect) perpetuating the misunderstanding that there is a real separate individual that can one day find or experience something called enlightenment in the future. Ego = Unsatisfaction ❤

Nothing is the end of using concepts to try to know what THIS is. There's nothing behind the appearance, its empty of any real meaning purpose or value. No deep truth hidden underneath or inside the appearance. Literally unknowable in the sense that any label, concept or belief placed on top of reality can never be confirmed or denied..... who would confirm or deny it? It's empty and full/something and nothing Empty of meaning or nothing. Full of appearance or something. ❤

If reality could be understood, known or predictable it would become mundane and boring very quickly. It's perfect in its unpredictability and unknowable in its unknowability. ❤