VeganAwake

Yep, No real better or worse. It's crazy because people will jump through spiritual hoops for 30+ years and still never realize what "you" just realized. What a trip right! ❤

The idea of spiritual bypassing is just more spiritual nonsense. It suggests that there is an incorrect path of avoidance or something similar that one could take as apposed to a correct spiritual path. But there isn't a real right or wrong path because nothing actually matters.

It's just not something that's attained by a someone. It's the end of the someone that feels like something needs to be attained. ❤

The persistent illusion of self wants to live forever. And the cosmic joke is there already isn't anyone alive to go on reincarnating.

Yes, here it was realizing the ME/self/ego was never a real identity to begin with, it just seemed to be. This realization seemed to occur after about a year and a half of hardcore desperate seeking....during deep inquiry into what this ME character was? At first it felt like I had become a new enlightened individual and then it was realized THAT was the same illusion.... even that identity was recognized to be completely unreal. That entire sense of individuality seemed to unravel loosen up and dissolve. It's freedom from the need to become ❤

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There's only what seems to be happening. It's whole complete and perfect ❤

Just remember the ego doesn't want there to be an endpoint.... for the ego there will always appear to be just one more step to integrate.(hamster wheel) ❤

It can't be grasped because it's not stable or permanent. The so-called grasping is realizing its ungraspable.

Maybe check out some of the essays from Robert Wolfe's AjataSunyata Project.... ❤

It can be described infinite different ways. But notice it's always just what's happening ....which is unknowable. Anything describing it is just a perspective and is impossible to validate....and who or what could validate it anyways?

What seems to be happening is neither right or wrong. It's just simply what seems to be happening! ❤

A nonrealization or nonexperience Nothingness ❤

And if there is no real witness is it still considered a real happening? ❤

Nothing behind the apparent witnessing and experiencing. ?

Maybe there are bodies that experience sensations like sight sound smell touch taste...... and that's it. But no one or no higher source actually experiencing it? ❤

Yeah totally, the biggest problem for the sense of self/ego is death but it's not even a real entity ? That's why religion, spirituality or anything promising eternal life are so appealing to it. Hopeless freedom. ❤

Yep nothing is hidden or missing, it only seems to be ....everything is already front and center. It appears hidden by already being everything ❤

Maybe the apparent issue is the belief that one state is better or more spiritual than another?

The ego is an illusory identification as this or that.....it's already not real! ❤

The sense of self's biggest problem is death. So it tries to adopt any story where it can believe it will continue on existing infinitely. Similarly to religion. The shocking and sometimes terrifying realization is that it's already not real. It's already not alive.... it's an illusion of self that wants to continue living. ? ❤

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Right there aren't two individuals in disagreement, the apparent disagreement is within the statements stated....GET IT! Good luck with your belief about what enlightenment is and entails. ❤

Yes it would be a misunderstanding because there already isn't a "yourself" to be or not be something. ❤

Creation seems to be like a runaway train. And there doesn't appear to be a real conscious creator doing that or even witnessing it for that matter. ❤