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The false claim of the individual says that THIS is not complete and it will continue seeking THIS within THIS and it will never be found because its seeking perfection inside of perfection. It's like a greyhound running around the track not realizing it's already won the race. THIS being perfect is already the case it's just whether its realized or not. ❤

@Surfingthewave ❤

@Eu Sint ❤

Enlightenment is a complete paradigm shift and a total shattering of the illusory self the ego creates. Integrating back into this fictional domain would basically be like trying to forget that Santa Claus isn't real... it simply doesn't work that way... You still chop wood and carry water but you constantly see how everyone's minds create their own personal prison and you are reminded of this fact everyday by humanities behavior and actions. Once the bottom of the bucket falls out it will never again hold water... Freedom is free because you don't actually lose a "ME"... Oneness realizes it was never there to begin with...? # nonduality#enlightenment#freedom Letting Go of the Ego: Because the ego has multiple aspects, it is not practical or effective to dissolve all of it at once, nor is it likely that you could do so. Much like a tree or large bush that is overgrown in the yard, you don’t just lift it out and throw it away – you cut off manageable pieces instead. The same approach is effective with letting go of the false beliefs that make up the ego. You begin by detaching from individual thoughts that reinforce the ego, then let go of beliefs, separating yourself from the false identity of your ego. We have spent years building our ego self-images, living inside of them, and reinforcing them. Extracting our genuine self out of this matrix of false beliefs will take more than a few days. Yes, it will take a while… so what. It also took a while to learn to read, do math, walk, and develop proficiency at any valuable skill. Things worth doing take time and practice. What better thing do you have to do than let go of what is causing you unhappiness? ❤

Yes and if you just keep recognizing that there is nothing incomplete or lacking about THIS... Nothing to find nothing to seek it's already perfectly complete ❤ A little trick: Every time your ego tries to make you believe that another moment will be better than THIS, simply ask your ego: "And Then What"? Continue asking your ego this every time. Eventually it sees that you're not buying into its games any longer. ❤

Hehe perfect & exactly!! ❤

@Consilience The only deeper experience that I can imagine you are describing is Unknowing. When we label and put everything into boxes and act as if we know what it is, it takes the fun out of THIS. We don't really know what anything is, we just pretend that we do. There is really only THIS and it's always only been THIS, we just couldn't see clearly through our own fog.

My belief is that further understanding than what I've already mentioned is unknowable. There is only THIS... What you are currently experiencing is all there is... Nothing matters because only mind creates matters. It is beautiful because it's perfect and it is what it is. Its full its complete it's not lacking in any way. Its THIS!! Two things: 1) Recognize you are not the false self that is lacking. 2) Recognize THIS is all there is... if you can find something outside of THIS let me know. It's time to get off the hamster wheel ❤

@Eu Sint ❤ I basically recognized I don't know who or what I am. There appears to be THIS which apparently I'm conscious of. Haha started off with not knowing much and now not knowing anything...? It was always unknown it was just an illusion of knowing lol...

@LfcCharlie4 Maybe we could chat on the phone one day. I get what you are saying ❤ The way I view THIS has shifted recently so I am taking things slow ?

I understand what you are saying ❤ It still sounds like you are trying to seek or promote seeking within THIS. What needs to be understood when THIS is all there is. This big self you know yourself as is still the illusion... see how tricky the mind is. Knowing is illusory, unknowing is the gate ❤

All nonduality teachings are not the same... You can explore everything we have discussed on this post for yourself. For example have you ever experienced anything other than THIS. Have you experienced the "ME" character created since birth is an illusion, and starts dissolving when closely looked at and questioned deeply. ❤

He refers to it as a mystery. There is only THIS and we are apart of it, but not separate from it.

Your welcome its definitely radical ?

I understand what you are saying ❤ I am referring to the separate lacking self that Oneness gets identified as which is the illusion within THIS. I understand everything you said about the Self is all there is... Unconditional Love. You see the belief that there is something outside of THIS that will complete you is the problem... this trap will keep you running on the hamster wheel forever... the illusory separate self never gets satisfied because you're perpetuating the belief that you are not already complete or whole. The constant seeking and belief you are not already complete is what causes the suffering and keeps the illusion of the separate self going. Here are the core staples to enlightenment: 1) The recognition that THIS is all there is and it is perfection and unknowable. 2) The Limited separate lacking self is an illusion and needs to be unraveled. Bingo ❤ Yahtzee ❤ As long as the seeking continues you're perpetuating the illusion of incompleteness and lack. Here is the non-duel teaching that describes this: His name is Jim Newman ❤

It's because the ego construct feels separate and incomplete like it doesn't have a home and it's lacking something. That is the dream that is the illusion that is Maya. There is nothing to seek you are already 100% complete. THIS is perfection there is nothing that needs to be added or taken away. The only thing that needs to be recognized is that you are not a separate lacking human body/mind alone on a planet. You are the infinite experiencing itself through itself. ❤

On the grandest scale words are just as complete as silence. Even half of a word is complete because everything is infinite. It's just the interpreter that doesn't see it so. Everything in THIS is perfection!! The incorrect belief that it is not is all that requires correction ❤ I understood what you meant though Beautiful ❤

Nice oneness ❤

The expectation that something needs to be done is the dream itself and caused by knowing. The individual will never understand this concept. The separation never occurred nothing needs to happen... THIS is already perfection. Only a mind creates the illusion that something needs to happen or be attained for completeness or wholeness. The entire belief that there is a lacking separate self is the illusion is Maya is the dream ❤

Unknowing ❤

Lol nice ❤ hahaha

Yes, awareness alone is Curative ❤

Yes the seeking is the hamster wheel, you definitely want to get off and turn within. ❤

From what I read gradual Enlightenment is actually more common than sudden. But it's not something that you develop or gain. It's more like when all the Illusions are taken out of the picture you are left with the TRUTH of what IS. The seeking ends and THIS becomes Paradise ? which it always was...❤

It sounds like it's saying the Creator and the experience are One and it's all an illusion.