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@LfcCharlie4 Rupert has an amazing message but seems to struggle getting it out clearly.. sometimes it sounds like he gets confused in his own message. Here's one of your own from the UK clears things up pretty quick ?

I didn't misinterpret anything you said. There isn't an I and there isn't a you...that's the illusion(Maya) You can't see the illusion clearly while immersed in it. The absolute is simply sharing a message..❤ There is a strong and persistent ego there... you can't see it because you're immersed in it. Your ego is also clever that's why it tries to put others that threaten your ego's survival strategy lower than you on the LOC so you can dismiss their claims much easier. If you kill the messenger you don't have to take seriously the implications of the message. And the message is you are being controlled by your ego... trust in this I used to be one so I can spot it a mile away...❤ Remember your ego isn't just negative things... it also wants to help people, it wants to make the world a better place, it wants to create more love... this is known as the spiritual ego. You can always spot the ego by its persistent wanting more more love more money more power or enlightenment more of everything there's no end. The ego is never happy with the way things are it always wants something to change.. you can decide to keep running on the hamster wheel or get off it's up to you either way it doesn't really matter good luck my friend..❤

I totally agree.. a detour shouldn't be looked at as negative. It's just a distraction to what is already the case ❤

Awakening and Enlightenment is completely misunderstood on this thread? An egoic self agenda always wants things to be different. It's never satisfied with the current situation. There is no end to the egoic self agendas needs and desires. It will keep one running on the hamster wheel forever. Once you get the new job promotion hot girlfriend a new car there will just be something else the ego will start seeking. The trick is to get off the hamster wheel. If something aligns with the egos desires it's labeled as good, if it doesn't it's labeled as bad that's how the ego works. The ego is the judger!! Awakening is recognizing that the ego is running the show not going along with it holding its hand. There is nothing that needs to be changed. The absolute doesn't make mistakes it's exactly the way it needs to be... for how else could it be. Liberation is freeing yourself from the egoic self agendas constant desires that's something need be done, something needs to be different. You can't hit a homerun when you haven't even understood how the games played yet... Actually nothing needs to be done you can continue playing around in Maya for the rest of your life because it's all within the absolute and makes no difference whatsoever. ❤

yes but no need to let that understanding get in the way of enjoying life and all of its beauty and ahhh. ❤

"Every solution that comes from the egoic mind is driven by the idea that there is a problem, and the solution becomes an even greater problem than what it was trying to solve. What you resist persists. In today's world, the vast majority of people who are engaged in religious or spiritual practices, such as yoga, prayer, meditation, chanting, or any kind of ritual, are practising techniques which are conditioned. Which means they are just part of the ego construct. The seeking and the activity isn't the problem; thinking you have found the answer in some external form is the problem. Spirituality in its most common form is no different than pathological thinking that is going on everywhere. It is further agitation of the mind. More human doing, as opposed to human being. The ego construct wants more money, more power, more love, more of everything. Those on the so called spiritual path desires to be more spiritual, more awake, more equanimous, more peaceful, more enlightened" - Samadhi (Maya illusion of the self)

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This is a great video If you haven't watched it already. ❤ Sometimes the very Act of seeking is what hides the truth from Plain Sight...

The sense of I that forgot and the I that remembered is Maya the illusion of self. There is no I... The I that thinks it knows something is the same I that thinks it's the absolute. That is still Maya the illusion of the self ❤ See what happens often is someone has a mystical experience and has a glimpse of No Self. Then the sense of self slowly creeps back in and the person starts calling it their big self or their absolute self. This is simply still Maya the illusion creeping back in and taking back over again, but this time a little sneakier often known as the spiritual ego. This is exactly where 99.9% of people that have had mystical experiences or glimpses are. Without the proper understanding they will remain there for the rest of their lives because they think they are already home. It makes sense why would you continue seeking if you think you already have the answer. This is why I love this quote: " The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge" Basically if you think you already have the answer you will not be open minded to receive the truth. The separate self can never except this message because the message is quite literally the destruction of the separate self and it does not compute. The separate self says seek but do not find... it wants to survive!! ❤ I hope this helps!! The biggest thing to recognize is that: At the end of the day it is all just THIS or The Absolute happening there is no right or wrong... " nothing really matters" ?

Yes you're right God needs to practice a lot...hmmm

Here are a few not so common people I have found on YouTube which I would consider enlightened... thought it might be a good opportunity to share ❤

Notice disappearing implies that there was someone there to begin with. There never was an Aaron inside the body... that was a misunderstanding. ❤

@OmniYoga what are you trying to accomplish with meditation?

Relative and absolute are the same thing. It's all The Absolute/Non duel. There is always only one thing happening. "THIS" There is nothing else. Either you believe you are a separate person located inside the body. Duality Or you wake up and realize the illusion of self/Maya. Non-duality It's so basic that it's overlooked... there are no individuals... there never was, it is Just Energy compiled up in the body creating the illusion of a separate self. The separate self seeks for fulfillment not realizing that it's already complete and that it never left the source. An awakened individual recognizes the separate self was an illusion... they were never separate and never needed to seek anything for completion. They never left home so they were always complete. It was just a mistaken identity the whole time. ❤ "The separation never occurred" - A Course in Miracles

Energy dreaming apparently... Its truly unknown ❤

There are no individuals sharing information with other individuals... that's an illusion. THIS is all that's happening and it's perfect and complete. There is no one that is in control of anything. ❤

Nice ..I have also always liked the analogy of lifting the Veil ❤ Enlightenment is already the case, so even to call it a process is inaccurate.. I like the term recognition. Enlightenment is a recognition of what is already the case. ?

@LfcCharlie4 I was a very hardcore seeker and burning myself out. One day I was sitting at my desk in my room, and I realized I must have come across the answer already, I listened to hundreds a videos and spent hundreds of hours seeking. I asked myself what am I missing? I kept remembering several gurus explaining it's a falling away process not a gaining of knowledge. I can't remember which one of Leo's videos helped me but it was a deep self enquiry where you kept asking yourself who this person was. The next day I started recognizing the person who I thought I was, was simply a bunch of manufactured ideas beliefs and perceptions I had about myself, none of them were actually true... I recognized one person could think I'm nice one person can think I'm mean another person could think I'm jealous another person might think I'm flattering. They were all just made up ideas and beliefs of someone's conditioned perception, none of these stories were my true self. To make a long story short I recognized it was all just a belief about who I thought I was... all these labels and beliefs I had about myself simply started falling away and I began feeling very light and empty inside. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of the illusory sense the self, and the recognizing that there is no beginning or end to where you exist. Any teacher that is not describing this information I spoke about above either has Financial interest in you not understanding, or does not understand what enlightenment actually is.

Well there is no ME that finds anyone... that's recognized to be an illusion. Remember Enlightenment isn't a gaining of knowledge... it's a seeing through the illusory sense of self, and that apparent sense of self dissolving. The only useful thing that can be found during seeking is recognizing it's a falling away process. Any gaining of knowledge for the illusory separate sense of ME, just perpetuates the illusion otherwise known as Maya. ?

Yeah it's realizing there was never a separate me to begin with and all the suffering that happened in the past was a simple misidentification as the personal self inside the body. Awakening is the personal me falling away. It's also recognized there was never a personal me to begin with. Nobody gets to awaken and keep the personal ME because there never was one. It was Maya all along ?

@mandyjw ❤ it's definitely a wild ride

Nothing matters... Even to say nothing matters is just perpetuating the belief that there is a separate mind apart from Oneness that understands nothing matters. I personally believe that the Mind is subconsciously aware of its own unreality, therefore it takes us on a journey to validate its own existence. This journey is what I call running on the hamster wheel. There are endless ways to upgrade your hamster wheel: They have the Platinum hamster wheel; the gold bling bling boda Ching hamster wheel; there's the new age hamster wheel with the I love the ego sticker still attached; and let's not forget the lowrider hamster wheel that comes with Mexican hamster girlfriend telling you good job essay you're making lots of progress...? The constant seeking isn't the problem, it's believing that you can find the answer outside of yourself which is the problem. What is being looked for is already the case it's already THIS... it's already what is. THIS is what is being search for. The recognition that nothing matters and there's no purpose or meaning to life isn't a bad thing... it's the opposite.. see if something mattered or had purpose there would be a goal to achieve... you see that would not be complete freedom... that would imply a goal needs to be met... No this freedom is so free so meaningless so purposeless we cannot even comprehend... it's absolute complete boundless freedom ❤ it's Love it's Liberation it's Enlightenment. Its THIS... And it has always been the case ❤

He definitely says some interesting things, I generally don't rule out anything anyone says because it usually comes back to bite me in the butt.. I find a kernel of Truth in every statement if understood from a certain angle. Non-duality is simply what IS. When the illusion of the self completely dissolves it's recognized we Are The Source itself and separate from nothing. Here is my opinion of what Awakening is: Completely seeing through the illusion of the self. Recognizing we are the absolute experiencing ourselves. Now in my opinion realization is not liberation. Here's my opinion of what enlightenment is: Completely recognizing the mechanism that creates suffering. At this point the ignorance is dispelled; the tricks of the Mind are completely seen through. Unconditional love is embodied because the mechanism of suffering and feelings of separation is understood. Like Jesus said: "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do". Things are not taken personal anymore because the cause of suffering is completely understood. It's a complete embodying and clearing up of what's recognized during the big Awakening. ❤