VeganAwake

Well there is technically no US, funniness just happens lol jk. I think I inflated his ego he started trying to boss me around lol Leave me alone dammit the love is fully embodied haha jk...

Totally agree you are the real deal..❤ I'm just saying I prefer my illusion to be a little clearer than you usually describe ?

And at the same time nothing is important and nothing is too deep... Its perfect

Yes that's a way it can be said. ❤ Not doubting your enlightened. If you explain things so deep nobody's going to ever understand what you're talking about and that's why it's important to keep your feet on the ground... your stuff is too deep lol. There's nothing happening and no one here for it to happen to nothing really matters. This is liberation... What naturally occurs and embodies with this recognition is unconditional love ?

If that's the case then the illusion wasn't completely seen through. THIS turns into a completely impersonal experience

Ummm that's what is meant by the cosmic joke bud. There isn't anyone looking and there's no one to find. It's also referred to as the unfindable inquiry. ? When Liberation occurs the individual is gone and recognized as never being...❤

@Javfly33 This "I" character that wants liberation is the illusion. It's the cosmic joke. Liberation occurs when the "I" character falls away. Where is this "I" character located in the body? Turn within and see if you can find it. ❤

I agree ❤ his words were priceless early on for me.

If you don't understand the aim of meditation you'll just keep running on the hamster wheel forever. Good luck my friend ❤

NO Control ❤

@Nemo28 your welcome ?

Really love this lady... she actually passed away a couple years ago ❤

Exactly.... the story of the ME character falls away...Maya is seen through. ?

Yes we are definitely going around in circles. I think it can all be chalked up to just sharing different opinions. No need to even call it a disagreement there's a kernel of Truth and everything. Let's just leave it at that ❤ I am still your friend and I'm always here to chat ... These good deep conversations is really when the best learning takes place?

@LfcCharlie4 Im sure that some of their material can be helpful. I've listened to several of their videos including their Enlightenment video. It really sounds like they're trying to repackage spiritual self-help material and sell it as a process of Awakening. When I watched their Enlightenment video... I was really surprised at how hesitant they seemed to even discuss the topic. In my observation they appeared to just dance around any meaningful discussions about what enlightenment actually is. I couldn't even finish the video it was ridiculous. Now obviously Enlightenment is a tough topic to discuss but that would play right into their benefit of assisting people to awaken when they're not even really sure what it consists of. They seem very loving and authentic... I can tell they truly care about helping people. I'm here to help as well, which is why I share some of my thoughts and opinions... (Update) I just watched their video again.. Now they discussed recognizing the true self as the absolute.. but they completely left out recognizing Maya the illusion of the self (most important part in my opinion).. and how the egoic self agenda will keep you running on the hamster wheel seeking outside of yourself to feel complete. Basically the understanding that your mind is controlling you. See without having this experience( completely seeing through the illusion) you would just tack on the knowledge that you are the absolute and can become a very bad spiritual ego. To not mention that in an Enlightenment discussion would be a major red flag in my opinion and a clear misunderstanding of the whole picture of Awakening or enlightenment. Now I'm not saying they don't understand this or mention it elsewhere I'm just saying what I noticed from watching their basic videos ❤

Well they probably won't rate you too low... that might insult you and turn away the paying customer... My guess is somewhere in the low-to-mid 500's so they can work you up and collect payment. ❤

Nice that's right... what is driving you to do all this seeking and practicing. What is driving that machine over there? Turn within and investigate... the answer is quite surprising!!❤

It's amazing how stored energy and thoughts become a real felt entity... Once one becomes aware of this and investigates, the energy seems to dissipate and then it's recognized it was never real to begin with. So wild ?

Yeah!

What you are experiencing right now is all that there is. Its THIS and its everything and nothing... it's the best show in town.. don't miss it seeking for something illusory ?

I think a lot of the surprise Factor depends on your level of attachment to the self image, and of course how clearly the illusion is seen through. In my own experience it was more of a shock like WTF. Gradual Awakenings are even a little dull sometimes because of the belief that something was radically going to happen... sometimes it's instant sometimes it's a gradual recognition. Each has its ups and downs that's for sure.

Yes exactly. The "I" thought loves to take credit for anything perceived as good and then blame someone else if it's perceived as bad..lol

I had that feeling as well, it's radical to think about...

Pretending to know is the sickness and Samadhi is the cure. Please stop pretending, it's so obvious ?