VeganAwake

You might think this answer is a little strange. It's yes and no... Nervous and anxious feelings can still arise but they are not owned by anyone. There is still a conditioned human body that will react according to its conditioning. But these feelings that arise are not taken personal anymore, they're just what's happening. So basically if you get caught up in the story that its ME with these nervous and anxious feelings, there will be suffering. If Liberation or Enlightenment has occurred, there is no longer a ME to get tangled or caught up in the story... the personalization is no longer a part of the picture. You don't get lost or caught up in the story any longer. So simply put: If you are identified as the body/mind suffering can occur. If you are not the feelings are almost negligible.

Yeah I thought that's what vegan was, I just pass on the animal products at night and eat whatever I want during the day... Is this not vegan? ?

Haha yes I probably could... At this point after being vegan for over three years I'm more concerned eating meat or dairy will cause me to have the shits or a bowel obstruction or something unfortunate like that...lol ?

Hey Brother welcome back... I don't think I'm sure or right about anything... It was just an apparent response.

Yes unconditional love... agreed ?

What needs to be explored here is, what would be calling someone into action to humanitarian work. God or the one self(as you describe it) doesn't require anything to be done. The Earth isn't sending Vibes to the human calling it into action to come save it. This feeling of lack that something needs to be done, and I'm just the one to do it.....This is the EGO Construct... although maybe now in disguise as the spiritual ego... or the do-gooder ego... it's still the ego. I know you've said in the past that everything is not the ego... but before the ego falls away, that's exactly what's taking place. You're being controlled and manipulated by the egoic self agenda doing anything(good or bad) to perpetuate its illusory existence (seeking or running on the hamster wheel as I like to call it). Liberation is a falling away of this entire illusory egoic construct running the show in disguise as the you. Remember the ego doesn't like this message, it doesn't want to hear this message, it will do whatever its can to make sure this message isn't heard because it wants to survive... whether it's positive or negative for the organism. " The biggest obstacle to Discovery is not ignorance it's the illusion of knowledge" Simply put if you think you already have the answer you won't be willing to accept the truth of this message. ❤

Beware thou spiritual/selfless egoic self agenda, the sneakiest of all. It will send you on humanitarian missions to save humanity and to change the world for the better.(of course better in my opinion) Another wolf in sheep's clothing... the ego is so sneaky... it will try to build itself up anyway it can, whether it's positive or negative for the organism. The best way to completely rid ones self of the ego is to stop feeding it all together... Put it completely out of a job. Get entirely off the hamster wheel, deconstruct the hamster wheel, and put it in the trash compactor... Money is completely neutral it has nothing to do with being egoless.

Hehe....this is very funny ? I used to take some very good quality liquid LSD at barter fairs back 20 years ago.. Maybe: 20 LSD trips 10 mushroom 1 datura But apparently 20 years later going vegan overnight was enough of a paradigm shift to Rattle something loose and spark a heavy shift... That's why I'm VeganAwake(nobody) ?

Good luck man after like 50 minutes my hands and arms started curling inwards like a fetus... it was really trippy and totally relaxing... felt like I was floating in nothingness. Yeah focusing on the breathing is good advice ?

It sounded like God = Suffering and Misery for you. The attachment or belief that something needs to be a certain way is what can cause suffering. You are correct life doesn't care what you want... do you want to go with the current or against it. I assure you life doesn't care either way. What's really trippy is to recognize that even against the current, is still going with the current. You simply can't be outside of what's happening might as well accept it or not hehe...?

"A man without a beard and moustache is like a woman with a moustache and beard" - OSHO

The belief that there's an entity called God behind all of this...hmmm interesting ?

No need to identify with it... So there's a conditioned human body reacting to life... that's all that's going on... it's what's happening. See there isn't a YOU there, it just seems that way. Maintain as the witness like Eckhart Tolle talks about.... Home is when it's recognized nothing needs to happen Perfection is at hand❤

In the US military LOA stands for letter of appreciation. Maybe sit down and write a letter of all the things you appreciate in life. ?

Paradox is a hell of a drug ?

Agreed...

Haha I know what you mean after a certain point there's nothing left to talk about it's almost like we have to go unconscious and pretend like there's really something important to talk about ?

I know what you're saying... To me God is boundless Infinite Energy with no Rhyme or Reason no meaning or purpose whatsoever just pure free Boundless Energy form and formlessness everything and nothing real and unreal.

Wait is this shity come back day...jk

Well according to that theory the Materialist Paradigm would be God as well... so what is there to break out of? Hmmm ?

Yes you would feel the pain whether you believe you are God imagining it or an evolved great ape ancestor from The Big Bang.

Geez that was a shity come back... I was trying to get you to explain your void reality a little better ?

Would you be willing to stab yourself in the hand right now with a knife... I wonder if it would still seem like smoke and mirrors?