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VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
yes unconditional love agreed ❤ never thought God would need to practice so much ? THIS is God and it doesn't require anything. It's already perfection ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You drink alcohol to...oh god help us...jk ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Personal attack really....Anna here is what you said: What your preaching is very neo-advaita, and its not helpful. Everything I'm saying can be summed up very quickly and easily: 1) There's no separate ME character inside the body that is an illusion.( nonduality) 2) Practices are not required to have this recognition and in fact they often perpetuate the belief of the illusory self because one is trying to Enlighten the illusion. If this is neo-advaita then so be it. This message is from personal experience of becoming liberated from the egoic self agenda. Ps... My spiritual ego only puffs up when I'm drinking red wine lol. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There simply cannot be separation between something that's real and something that's unreal. If I had what seemingly appeared as two things: 1) A Dr. Pepper soda machine. 2) A Mirage of a Dr. Pepper soda machine. You can't say this is Duality because the Mirage of the soda machine technically isn't real. It was an illusion created in the mind. The only thing that's left is the real Dr. pepper soda machine. Even though it appeared to be two things, it was always just ONE. I like to use the ocean waves analogy: If you're standing on the beach and you look out at the ocean on a windy day, you can count millions of separate waves. Although each wave appears to be separate from the ocean, the reality is the waves were never separate, it was always just one ocean appearing to be many individual waves. You can call it an individual wave all you want... you can give it a name, an address, a birth certificate. After time It may even start believing it's an individual separate wave. On one particular day though that wave crashed into the beach, flattened out and sucked back into itself. Later on it got to experience itself as many different waves, but it could never again be tricked into believing it was a separate wave, because it recognized its true nature as the whole ocean. The illusion was completely seen through ❤ The moral of the story is the belief in Duality doesn't make it real. Fiction is fiction and truth is truth. A Fictitious belief is not part of the Absolute because it was never real to begin with... Just like unicorns and flying dragons are not real. Duality=illusion=Non-Duality ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Time and experience still apparently happen... it's real and unreal... it's just not happening for an individual that you think you are.. Who are you? Turn 180 degrees and look within. Where is the sense of you located in the body? What is it constructed of? -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No literally nothing changes except for the realization that it's not happening to an individual ME character.... It's Just Happenings Before Enlightenment chop wood and carry water after Enlightenment chop wood and carry water. What has changed is the resistance to what is.... and it's much less of a personal experience because the ME character is recognized to be a complete illusion.❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I can't tell you how you feel... some people are submerged deep in the illusion... others are floating somewhere near the surface. I never had a strong sense of identity so is easier for me to see through the illusion of the self. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well first of all Duality is an illusion... dualities cannot be created when its understood non-duality is all there is. Your explanation/belief of creating dualities this incorrect. Basically it's an incorrect opinion that dualities are being created when they are not. The appearance of individual waves still happens, but they were never apart from the body of the ocean. It was never duel. "The separation never occurred" -ACIM There isn't a self to build up that's the illusion. So yes it's as silly as it sounds the Ivory Tower is being built up, just to be recognized as an illusion. I don't really consider self-inquiry a practice because it's not really something you improve at. But I guess it could be argued otherwise. Either the self illusion is seen through or it is not. If there is a deep enough look at it it can probably be recognized but if it's just a glimpse or an intuition it might not be enough. This information is just pertaining to Awakening there are other benefits from meditation yoga mindfulness practices and Etc. Identification with the body/mind as the self is the illusion. The body-mind can be conditioned to operate heavy machinery, wash dishes, clean houses, seek for enlightenment...etc. The Ivory Tower that is being constructed is the illusion. The funding for construction of the Ivory Tower needs to be cut off. And the tower needs to be recognized as an illusion, hit with a wrecking ball and knocked down... it's Paradigm needs to be shattered like a mirror. The best part is since the construction materials aren't real the deconstruction process doesn't always have to be that painful. ❤ As long as the funding/belief is there the construction will keep going forward. Sometimes the blueprints of the Ivory Tower change to give the appearance of a new spiritual Ivory Tower. The ego says see this is a healthy Ivory Tower... you don't want to tear me down this is the truth. But it is just another illusion trying to rebuild itself as the spiritual Ivory Tower. THIS is all there is and whether Awakening occurs or not it's all happening within THIS. There is no one way is better than the other. THIS is real and unreal it's nothing being everything. It's the absolute. It's unknowable and undescribable. It's a pregnant nothingness being everything. It's complete, it's whole, it's perfection, its completeness, it's Paradise, the kingdom of heaven... Enlightenment/ it's liberation from the egoic self agenda keeping you running on the hamster wheel for your whole life, and seeking for something external to make itself Feel Complete. It makes no sense to reinforce and build up the Ivory Tower just so It can be knocked down. It's easy to see how this can be an issue as everyone is running around reinforcing the Ivory Tower instead of recognizing it's an illusion. "No individual has ever stepped foot through the gateless gate. No one can enter the gateless gate so be nobody" ❤ ? -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is work you have to do for yourself turn within and discover the essence that you believe yourself to be. What is this me character inside the body? Where does it reside? What is it made out of? ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Inliytened1 I was Hardcore Seeker for about a year-and-a-half but I could feel myself slowly getting burnt out. I thought to myself I must have came across the truth by now. I remember I kept hearing it's a turning 180 degrees within and a falling away not a gaining of something. So yes I turned within and started self inquiring. Shortly after I recognized that this ME character is just a compilation of ideas beliefs thoughts perceptions and labels I have allowed myself to buy into over the years. It was recognized that the story of ME was not the true ME. Then I started shedding the layers.. it started feeling lighter and lighter so I continued until there was nothing left, Just emptiness or a pregnant nothingness. It's simultaneously recognized there never was an individual ME inside the body... the whole thing was a sham of the Mind. It's recognized the seeking perpetuated the illusion and keeps one distracted from turning within and seeing the truth. This is why the ego is infatuated with seeking externally it knows if the veil is peered through for too long the truth will be discovered about it's non-existence. The seeking actually prolongs the recognition and perpetuates the belief in a separate ME character. At the end of the day it's a recognition that there was nothing to find... and the whole illusion is created in the mind and by energy contracting in the body. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Dodo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Every reaction or thought we have about a situation is a form of conditioning. The awareness of this alone is illuminating" - VeganAwake -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No you're way off and you took my information out of context. I'm not preaching either... and who are you to judge whether something is helpful or not.. What I was saying was practicing is not necessary to attain the knowledge about how the mind created self is a fiction. Practice is not required to understand and recognize something. The ME character is nothing more than layers of beliefs, ideas perceptions and opinions stored in the mind. None of it is actually Who You Are. For example one person may think you are the nicest person in town, and the next may think you are a selfish jerk. Their opinion of you is not anything permanent, and its dependent on their mood, and their conditioning. If they're in a good mood they may think you're great if they're in a bad mood they may think you're annoying. You see none of it is actually who you truly are. When all the imaginary labels, perceptions, beliefs, opinions and ideas are dropped, WHAT IS LEFT? Words do not equal the YOU... peel off all these layers of the imaginary self....don't stop until they're all Stripped Away. Commenting on areas where you lack true experience is really what's unhelpful... it might not be obvious to the youngsters but it's obvious to someone who has the experience. I think the real issue is that you actually believe you know.. I have put out an incredible amount of priceless information on this forum.. but the cup must be emptied before it can be filled ❤ " The biggest obstacle to Discovery is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge" -
VeganAwake replied to Dodo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Enlightenment means to live life without any hankering for meaning. Then whatsoever is, is good, and whatsoever is not, that too is good. Then each moment becomes so radiant, so luminous, so fun of fragrance, but still there is no meaning" - Osho -
VeganAwake replied to Dodo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Turn within and recognize you are free, there was never a cell, there was never a key. - VeganAwake -
VeganAwake replied to Dodo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"We are all saying the same thing, it just appears to be described differently" - VeganAwake -
VeganAwake replied to Dodo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Between nothing and everything is" -VeganAwake -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What you call Dogma is actually experience and what you call my ego is actually sharing that experience... If you don't like the message that's fine...doesn't bother me... You're right Liberation isn't all there is but it's the message I like to discuss in my topics. It's not necessarily the seeking and the practices that are the problem, it's the belief that something outside of yourself will help you attain enlightenment. JUST TO BE CLEAR- Enlightenment is not a gaining of knowledge it's the crumbling away of the illusory self that's been built up over the years. You can keep adding on all you want but in the end you will recognize it's a falling away. Of course a lot of things need to happen first like emptying your glass and stop thinking you know it all... good luck buddy ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Chasing enlightenment... -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What are you practicing? THIS is all there is, it couldn't be otherwise ❤ When Awakening occurs what's recognized is the practices just perpetuated the belief in the illusory self. You see the imaginary self is trying to awaken which never works. All that's required is recognizing the false self is a complete fabrication of the Mind. You could meditate for 10 years and not recognize the self is an illusion. There is no practice required... turn Within and see the illusion of self or Maya. ❤ Who are you? where is the sense of self located in the body? what is it constructed of? -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Perfect and freedom are words I used to describe what is left after the judgement of THIS is gone. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In fact the only seeking that actually pays off with Enlightenment work, is stumbling upon the knowledge that seeking perpetuates the illusory sense of self, and recognizing it's a turning within and crumbling away not an adding to. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Practices have no value at all... go back up to the top and read my original post. Practices perpetuate the belief of the illusory self. You cannot practice dropping the illusory self, either it happens or it does not. Either the illusion is seen through or it is not. Either Awakening occurs, or it does not. And yes this is the case for everyone. The knowledge that seeking perpetuates the belief of the illusory self is seen throughout almost all the great Masters quotes. Spiritual seeking is just another form of spiritual materialism. It's seeking to find something for the illusory self. “Those who are actively seeking enlightenment will not find it because the act of looking for it is the distraction from it.” ― Enza Vita -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Purpose is a creation of the Mind. Everything is happening within THIS...and THIS is an Indescribable nothing and everything. Whether one awakens from the dream or not makes no difference...THIS is perfect; THIS is whole; THIS is complete. It's perfect absolute boundless freedom ❤ It's unknowable! -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Just admit it that you don't actually know you are the ultimate creator... this is called knowing and it's a trap. You probably just heard this from Leo's videos and like I said tacked it on top of your illusory self which turns into a spiritual ego. Enlightenment is a falling away of the illusory self not an adding on top of it. Knowing is the Trap...? Unknowing is freedom...❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When the illusory self is dropped what is simultaneously recognized is that all is one with the divine. Your comments sound demeaning misleading and are often confusing. If people look up to you on this forum they will read your comments on my post and get confused at what is a reliable source of information to trust... Just be aware that what you are calling a silly kid is a self-realized liberated Oneness with the Divine sharing a message.. A bodhisattva ❤