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Recognizing that Enlightenment is not something attained or found in the future. Also recognizing it's not a gaining of knowledge, but a falling away of the illusory self. Also the recognition that spiritual practices can actually perpetuate the belief of the illusory separate self and delay this falling away process. ❤

Hi, There is nothing outside of THIS. You're always present... where else could you be. Have you ever experienced anything outside of THIS? Everything happens within this non-dual Oneness and it's what's happening / THIS! If your separate self temporarily takes over and runs the show it's what's happening within THIS. One way isn't better than the other although it seems that way at first. There is no right or wrong, Awakening is either something that happens or does not.. The more you starve off this separate self the easier it becomes to stay conscious almost all the time. It seemed to take me about a year and a half to start seeing some major progress...❤ Hope this helps ?

There's no point purpose meaning or value to anything but why not study and learn...

I love how well he describes everything. It's like he took a snapshot of my own experience ❤

Very well said... yes transcending is just an expression used to describe the disidentification. As far as the ego not existing it's kind of hard to explain... After Awakening occurred here it was simultaneously recognized there was never a ME here to identify with anything... literally nothing identifying as someone... it's completely radical and incomprehensible ❤

Affirmations work well... " I love myself exactly the way I am" 30 times a day in the mirror

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"The full awareness of the Atonement, then, is the recognition that the separation never occurred. The ego cannot prevail against this because it is an explicit statement that the ego never occurred" - ACIM

Its the same thing ?

J. Krishnamurti said, “It is no measure of one’s health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” Identification with the egoic mind is the sickness and Samadhi is the cure. The saints, sages and awakened beings throughout history have all learned the wisdom of self-surrender. How is it possible to realize the true self? When you peer through the veil of Maya, and let go of the illusory self, what is left?

I am liberated... Energy within the body makes you feel like a separate individual... you are identifying with that energy as a separate ME... You are a part of everything, the separation never occurred... You are seeking completion within completion and you'll never find what you're seeking because you already have it.. Enlightenment is simply recognizing there was never anything missing.. What you are seeking is the end of seeking ? You're seeking wholeness within wholeness. Your searching for THIS and its already here... this is Paradise this is perfection this is enlightenment... It's hopeless ....in fact as long as you believe you are a separate individual apart from everything else, you will continue to seek for the rest of your life... running on the hamster wheel. There is nothing that needs to happen... the Kingdom of Heaven is THIS... there's nothing else you will find.. Enlightenment is an unknowing process....its recognizing that we don't know what anything is.... it's looking at the world with childlike eyes again.... but for the first time ❤

It's reality without any conditioned filters or judgments about it... seeing the world with childlike eyes again. An unknowing....

There is not a you to die... you're trying to transcend something that's not even there... can you see the issue ❤ Recognize the entire idea of yourself is just a story. Thoughts, beliefs, perceptions, ideas, words, stories... there's nothing there....where is the you? There is no Visionary inside the body that is an illusion... Where inside the body does the sense of you reside? check it out for yourself but remember there is no self haha.... Simply see there is no ME....

So you don't own it, you don't resist it and you don't identify with it... Perfect, we are actually on the exact same page. ❤ If you take it one step further and recognize it doesn't exist you will be spot on...?

Nothing really matters... there is no purpose to anything... It's so freekin free it's not even real LOL..

This reminds me of a great way I heard of describing the ego's existence: " It's real until it's not" I also like to describe it as: "The path that energy once took, and the tendency to take that same path over and over again" You are exactly right... what is the definition of an entity? Thoughts and energy are powerful and have the ability to control... yes the issue is the identification with the ego as the self. I love the analogy of the gateless gate when describing the Ego's existence: After you pass through and look back you recognize it was never real to begin with... it was a misidentification the entire time... But when one is immersed in it, it's the realest thing ever. When the entire ego construct is seen for what it truly is for the first time it's shocking... it's incredible... I remember being shocked and laughing at the same time. After this occurred for me there was an untangling from social conditioning process which I like to describe as snapping out of The Matrix. The ego can still try to puff up from time to time but if the light of awareness shines bright it seems to just stay deflated for the most part... The ego went from being a monstrous lion to a house kitten lol..?

A lot of what you said I agree with... it's a tricky topic ❤ This is the part you have to watch out for: "Ego's identification through survival lenses will perish through complete ownership and feeling of the emotions/energies" Taking ownership of the egos emotions and energies or loving the ego will only perpetuate its existence... this is exactly what the ego wants. It will literally try everything to survive.. Explaining the ego is like explaining walking through a gateless gate... once you pass through and turn around and look back you see the whole thing was an illusion... By taking ownership of these feelings and emotions it's like simply confirming to the ego that you believe in its existence. It will do anything expecially turn into a spiritual ego... it will say look I'm spiritual now....I'm good... no need to get rid of me.

Interesting perspective...thanks In my experience although DNOS is not something that you continue to go through over and over again, once the mechanism that creates the suffering is completely recognized and awareness is shined on how the ego functions, it deflates the ego rendering it powerless. Also I must completely disagree with this statement: "Ego's identification through survival lenses will perish through complete ownership and feeling of the emotions/energies" This would almost be like re identifying with your ego and negating the work of recognizing it's an illusion.... kind of reminds me of Matt Kahn BS... who simply does not understand the mechanics of the ego. The ego either wants you to completely love it or completely hate it but it cannot compute the idea of its unreality. Awareness alone is Curative ❤

Remember Awakening isn't a gaining of something... It's the crumbling away of the illusory sense of the ME character.

"This is a communication that illuminates the paradoxical nature of non-duality and exposes the misconception that it is something that can be appropriated or experienced. There are no personal demands or expectations here, nor is there any intention of satisfying in any way the seeker’s need for progress or a path. This uncompromising message can be both challenging and liberating. The entire personal effort to achieve spiritual progress, more awareness, greater silence, more openness, or even change, can seem to dissolve in the face of this radical revelation. The entire perception of “the self” or “the world” in which “one” seems to live can apparently collapse, leaving nothing to support the illusion of separation, control and continuity. Suddenly there is only emptiness, but paradoxically there is also the abundance and freedom one longs for". - Tony Parsons When this apparent ME fell away, it was like there was nothing left for anything to attach to. The feeling was light and free, but for No One. Simultaneously it's recognized that the individual ME never existed in the first place, it was just apparent energy manifesting as a separate entity within the body. There is no sticky sense of ME left somewhere inside the body for things to attach to. Emotions labels feelings thoughts just fall away. It's a complete impersonal experience now ❤ Existence continues to happen but for No One...it just is what it is. The resistance to what is no longer arises because there is no one left that believes it should be one way or the other. There is no meaning purpose or value to anything. "nothing really matters" Free Will and Choice are an illusion created by the egoic self agenda of the separate self. Once the illusion of the separate self collapses All That Remains is THIS... THIS is Paradise... THIS is Freedom... THIS is Liberation... THIS is Enlightenment, and it was always the case ?

@Eu Sint ❤ ? ?

What you resist persists...❤ allow them to be whatever they are, even if they're painful. no need to judge them... rather become aware of their unreality. Entertaining these thoughts ideas and beliefs keeps them alive... just simply ignore them and they will deflate under their own illusory weight. ❤

It's completely radical and incomprehensible. How is it possible lol... What else can be said about it haha.. It's a ball and chain ride ❤