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I continue to hear this message around enlightened circles. Could it be true? 1) There are no individuals here on Earth. The individual is an illusion. 2) The supposed ME character is Just Energy identifying as a ME character within the human body. 3) Free Will and choice is an illusion. The human body/mind is not even aware that the illusory ME character is identified with the body and thinks it's in charge. 4) Basically, there is a conditioned human body running on autopilot and an energy within that body that thinks it is real. That energy is US, but there is no US...that's the illusion. There is no one here LOL... 5) There is no God in charge or running things. There is no meaning or purpose to anything. Nothing really matters. 6) Basically, everything Is real and unreal. It's wild chaotic Boundless Energy... pure beloved Anarchy! 7) Its THIS.... Is this anyone else's experience?

*Breaking news* Humanity recognizes it's a complete illusion. We're all streaking to Arizona for an endless orgy for the remainder of existence...

@Mafortu ❤ thanks for the info...checkin it out 4 sure ?

My experience was similar to that of this video. I always show it to everyone it was a gift for me. ❤

Yes It makes you feel like the world's going to end without it. It's never completely gone, but it deflates to a point where it's rendered harmless. ?

Yes its just an accumulation of energy trying to be a ME. Its cool you understand this...good work!! Notice is and let it fall away like everything else ?

"What is sought remains hidden from the seeker by already being everything. It is so obvious and simple that the grasping of it obscures it. Never found, never knowable, being is the consummate absence that is beyond measure. Looking for being is believing it is lost. Has anything been lost, or is it simply that the looking keeps it away? Does the beloved always dance constantly just beyond our serious focus? The very intention to seek for a mythical treasure within life inevitably obscures the reality that life is already the treasure. By seeking the myth it dreams it can attain, the seeker effectively avoids that which it most fears … its absence. Liberation is like a fuse that suddenly blows, and all the little lights go out and there is only light. This is not a message about you or me or anyone getting anything. This is about the realisation that there’s nothing to get … that what has been sought has never been lost. This isn’t about seeking or not seeking; it’s beyond the concepts of Advaita and non-dualism and beyond the idea of reaching states of awareness or mindfulness. There’s no goal. There’s nothing on offer. This is totally beyond knowing. This is really a description – a sharing together of a description of something that is beyond attainment, something that can’t be lost and also can’t be grasped or gained. All the time there’s separation there’s a sense of loss, there’s a sense of a feeling that there’s something that isn’t whole. And so the seeker attempts to fill that void, fill it with something – whatever. And some look to something called “enlightenment” because it is felt that enlightenment might be the thing that will fill this sense of loss; it could be the answer to some secret that we don’t quite get. And it sounds, when we read about enlightenment, as though somebody else has found the secret. But nobody’s found the secret. There’s no such thing as an enlightened person. It’s a complete misconception. But the difficulty is that being seekers, the energy of seeking pushes us into being attracted to the idea that somebody else has found something that we can find, because we grow up believing that effort brings results. So, if effort brings results, and we’ve heard of something called enlightenment or liberation, we can make the effort and then we can become liberated or enlightened … like this guy up the road we’ve heard about, or that woman that’s giving satsangs. They have got something that I want. If I go there I will learn how to get it. In the dream there’s still an idea that enlightenment or liberation is something that’s attainable. And so there are teachings that reinforce the idea that you are an individual that has choice, so now you, as an individual, can choose to self-enquire or to meditate, or whatever else, and eventually you could become enlightened. You can go all over the world and find teachings offering something to get. It is rare, however, to find an uncompromising communication that offers nothing at all to the seeker. This aliveness is nothing being everything. It’s just life happening. It’s not happening to anyone. There’s a whole set of experiences happening here and they’re happening in emptiness … they’re happening in free fall. They’re just what’s happening. All there is is life. All there is is beingness. There isn’t anyone that ever has or does not have it. There’s nobody that has life and somebody else doesn’t have life. There just is life being life. This message is so simple it totally confounds the mind. This message is too simple. Already your mind’s saying, “Yes, but come on … what about the levels of enlightenment and what about my emotional blocks, and what about my chakras, they’re not all fully open? What about my stillness – I’m not really still yet, and what about my ego? Somebody told me I still have an ego … it’s a bit reduced but it’s still there.” But all of that, all of those ideas are adopted lessons about how it should be. The ego is what’s happening. The ego is just being ego. Thinking is just being thinking. There is only being. There is just being. There’s nothing else. There’s nobody that’s running that. There’s no destiny, there’s no God, there’s no plan, there’s no script, there’s nowhere to go because there is only timeless being. Being is totally whole just being. And it is alive and fleshy and sexy and juicy and immediately this; it’s not some concept about ‘there’s no-one here’. It’s not some concept about ‘there’s nowhere to go’. It is the aliveness that’s in that body right now. There is pure beingness, pure aliveness. That’s it. End of story. Really it is simply that. So there is no-one, there is no choice. There is no choice at any level. Oneness didn’t choose to become two. There is just oneness. All there is, is oneness being alive with nobody doing it. Is anybody doing breathing? Is anybody doing blood circulation? Is anybody really doing anything? No. There is just apparent doing. Apparent life in freefall. There is no answer to life because life is its own answer. It’s happening already. It’s this. You never lost it. That’s the amazing thing about liberation. When liberation apparently happens people say, “It’s amazing because the thing I was looking for has never left me. It’s the one thing that never comes and never goes – the one constant that can’t be known or held onto.” And the one constant is being" - Tony Parsons (www.theopensecret.com)

Unknowing comes to mind. Looking at the world again with childlike wonder and curiosity. With practice I've noticed the Mind slows down labeling and judging things when you don't pay it any attention. I like to use the mind now instead of it using me. At this point I am aware anytime I become identified with the mind it's pretty wild. The mind feels like a tool now that I can decide to use or not. As humans we place a customized overlay according to our conditioning over reality. What we perceive as helpful is labeled good and what we perceive as unhelpful is labeled bad. If it's something that goes along or helps the story of me it's good. But if somebody doesn't meditate do yoga, eat white rice or do what I think is good they're labeled as bad. Looking at the world for the first time everytime. ? Like abiding in unconditional love and forgiveness. ❤ like Jesus probably.

It sounds like the quote I like to use: "The biggest obstacle to Discovery is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge" Simply put if you think you already know the answer you won't be willing to accept the truth when you hear it. It's related to the 'emptying your glass' statement. ?

I resonate a lot with what this guy has to say...its worth a listen. He's been on Buddha at the gas pump and is well known for his non-dual Awakening experience. ❤

The answer is that it's unknowable ?

If you have time...this is an amazing video I recommend on this forum all the time. It almost mimics exactly that of my own experience ? The way it explains the egoic self agenda is profound...

You can private message me if you like.

I can try...❤ sure

Trust me I understand your judgments bud... it's hard enough using language to describe anything let alone texting it on a forum...❤ Good luck on your journey my friend... I'm here if you ever want to private message me or do a Skype or something ?

The cosmic joke is when Enlightenment occurs the 'I' or 'ME' character has fallen away. I or ME is used here as an expression so it's understood what is being explained. Sometimes practices appear to perpetuate the belief of the illusory self and sometimes it appears to assist in waking up. It seems this energy simply wakes up to itself when its ready, but who knows. Tony Parson says it doesn't matter about practices....a person can be drunk in the gutter and have realization or be practicing yoga for 20 years. I'm sure there will be a lot more study on this. How attached an individual is to the illusory sense of self may play a role. What happened here was there was a desperate Seeker that made a commitment to find Enlightenment or die trying.... I was harnessing my anxiety energy to do this. Although at the time I didn't even know what I was seeking... kind of funny After about a year I felt myself burning out I thought I must have come across the answer by now what am I missing. I remember hearing it is a turning within and a falling away process. I immediately turned inwards.... it seemed that energy I was harnessing recognized almost immediately the sense of self was an illusion made up of beliefs ideas and perceptions about myself. The layers started crumbling away and burning up within the light of awareness. This energy seemed to fall back into itself which is everything and nothing. It seems to be an energetic shift and not just a conceptual understanding.. as I've come across a lot of people that understand but haven't had the energetic shift happen... this can't explain it over here either...its crazy! Anyways other things seemed to follow this first recognition... it was recognized the Mind had been identified with this energy and believed it to be the sense of ME. There was an untangling from social conditioning and a snapping out of the Matrix as I like to describe. After walking through this gateless gate when you look back you see the illusion of the self was never even there... it was energy in disguise as an I. It was a misidentification... " The separation never occurred" - A Course in Miracles Remember this message of Enlightenment does not help the believed individual. In fact the illusory individual does not want to hear this message and can't hear it for that matter. There has to be something that awakens from its slumber and removes the veil. Let those who have ears to hear listen. ❤

I'm not as rigid in my beliefs as you probably think. When I recognized there was no me inside the body controlling everything, I began to question if there was a controller at all... I'm not trying to convert anyone it just appears to be the case ❤ What do you think is going on?

Yeah that poor guy has no game lol... the cartoon girl is kind of cute ?

You really should do your own investigation on this...❤ Our minds try to rationalize everything and make it appear as everything's in control... There's nothing in control... It's wild chaotic Boundless Energy... But at the same time there's nothing special about it.. Its just WHAT IS ❤

I understand exactly what you're saying ❤ The message that nothing really matters feels threatening at first to the separate self. Later it's recognized that it's pure boundless freedom and unconditional love. The separate self knows nothing else but to seek.... this constant seeking perpetuates the belief in its realness and on and on running on the hamster wheel endlessly. It will even turn not seeking into a form of seeking. "The ego says seek but do not find" - A Course in Miracles The thing to recognize is that one way isn't better than the other, it's all happening within THIS...and its WHAT IS ❤ you are absolutely perfect just the way you are nothing needs to happen. What is being communicated is, sometimes this illusory separate self falls away and it's recognized that it never existed. It's important for you to find your own truth about this... do not just take my word blindly... check it out for yourself ❤

We think that if our body freezes in time, the world will freeze with it. The world doesn't freeze, it just goes on doing its thing without us being apart of it. The make-believe story of the individual feels so important... everything has perfect equal importance... a perfect balance of zero ?

There is no right or wrong answer, you are free to do whatever you want. There is not a controller, I think it's just Boundless Energy doing its thing infinitely. We are it and it is we ?

This was really ? ❤

Yep you got it ❤..... it's always been in plane sight, just overlooked. Yes words simply cannot come close..