VeganAwake

I really like that....? Here is a clip from Samadhi part 2 (it's not what you think): "When you realize the center that is everywhere and nowhere, duality breaks down, form and emptiness time and the timeless. One could call it a dynamic stillness or a pregnant emptiness, within the center of absolute darkness. The Taoist teacher Lao Tse said "Darkness within darkness the gateway to all understanding."

I like that...yes THIS is all-encompassing and literally can't exclude anything. It's what's happening. With that being said, one can point out that although it's all included, does not mean it will produce the same outcome. For example: Some people enjoy seeking. And for others it becomes a vicious taskmaster that causes pain and suffering. (satsang after satsang, the constant running on the hamster wheel which only perpetuates that there's something that can be found) So different interpretations of being can produce different outcomes. Good material...

Yeah this is a pretty interesting topic. Some believe free will and choice is an illusion. They're saying the conditioned human body/mind makes a decision and then the separate self claims that it was the one that made the decision. It's also recognized upon awakening that this separate self is also an illusion. So essentially they're saying everything; feelings thoughts ideas perceptions beliefs arise out of nothing and fall back into nothing... with no real meaning purpose or value for anything. The infinite communicating to the infinite.

Hi, Being is the opposite of seeking. Being is what is left when it is recognized there's nowhere to go nothing to do and no one to be.. Being is what is already the case, but it's what's recognized after the illusory sense of self crumbles away and THIS is all that remains. The egoic self agenda is eliminated. Being = THIS THIS = Being Being is all there is, everything else is unknowable ❤

Haha we are funny... I'm seriously trying to transition back to a whole food vegan diet. I've gained like 25 lb eating vegan junk food... here in California they have the Beyond burger at Carl's jr, and now Beyond sausage biscuit. Del Taco has the beyond meat for all of their burritos and tacos now and they have a delicious California epic burrito with french fries in it and guacamole. And then of course Burger King down the street has the impossible Burger and I can pretty much order anything vegetarian from Taco Bell. Help lol ?

I love you as well brother take care and talk with you soon ❤

You should change your forum name to Instigator7 lol... Life purpose is to live.. I never mentioned once about not helping people... it's just whether it's egoically driven or not. I value truth over being liked on the Forum...

Yeah no problem at all I have social anxiety also. I don't think there's any real exact answer with this one... some people Force themselves to do public speaking and to be more social in general... using A build-up approach. I have found what works best for me is not thinking about it or identifying with it at all. It's the emotions come up they come up if not they don't... just simply don't claim them. Just ideas of course ?

There is no relative and absolute that's dualistic perception. There is only THIS or Being. If one needs a car to drive to work to make money to survive and pay rent.. that's what's happening. Basic survival. It's all THIS (not relative and absolute) it's just what's happening. As I've mentioned before, there isn't anything inherently wrong with doing anything or not doing anything... If a desired action is ego-driven, there's usually an accompanying feeling of guilt, lack or diminishment if the action isn't carried out or completed according to the ego's standards. The Seeker always feels like there's something that needs to be done because the Seeker itself is Separation and lack. The Seeker does actually want to feel complete, but it also subconsciously knows that finding completion will be its demise. This Seeking energy knows that if there's nothing to seek it will be out of a job and it will have to fall way. This message feels foreign to you because you're simply not liberated bud I've been trying to explain this to you. You may have had a glimpse, mystical experience or partial awakening and shaken the ego a bit but the ego can reconstruct itself quickly... it will see it's being attacked... send in the reinforcements and come back as a strong spiritual ego... the new higher self or true self most call it... this new found spiritual ego is a real tough one to tackle because it thinks it's God or something lol... it magically knows what needs to be done because it's now super spiritual. You are an intelligent dude that is very good with your words and have done your homework I can tell... unfortunately knowing the material intellectually isn't what Awakening or Liberation actually is... True Liberation is an energetic shift and the complete Falling Away of the separate self or egoic structure, leaving only BEING or THIS. The egoic self agenda is completely seen for what it is and dropped. Feelings like there's something 'I' need to do to make the world a better place or 'I' need to find my life purpose are eliminated because there is no longer an 'I' or egoic self agenda driving the train sort of speak. The Hampster wheel has been stepped off of. As I said before this egoic drive is easy to spot because I used to be one. Ps the term spiritual bypassing is rendered irrelevant when it's recognized there is no meaning purpose or value to anything and nothing matters. I love you bud sure we will be talking soon enough haha ❤

You might think this answer is a little strange. It's yes and no... Nervous and anxious feelings can still arise but they are not owned by anyone. There is still a conditioned human body that will react according to its conditioning. But these feelings that arise are not taken personal anymore, they're just what's happening. So basically if you get caught up in the story that its ME with these nervous and anxious feelings, there will be suffering. If Liberation or Enlightenment has occurred, there is no longer a ME to get tangled or caught up in the story... the personalization is no longer a part of the picture. You don't get lost or caught up in the story any longer. So simply put: If you are identified as the body/mind suffering can occur. If you are not the feelings are almost negligible.

Yeah I thought that's what vegan was, I just pass on the animal products at night and eat whatever I want during the day... Is this not vegan? ?

Haha yes I probably could... At this point after being vegan for over three years I'm more concerned eating meat or dairy will cause me to have the shits or a bowel obstruction or something unfortunate like that...lol ?

Hey Brother welcome back... I don't think I'm sure or right about anything... It was just an apparent response.

Yes unconditional love... agreed ?

What needs to be explored here is, what would be calling someone into action to humanitarian work. God or the one self(as you describe it) doesn't require anything to be done. The Earth isn't sending Vibes to the human calling it into action to come save it. This feeling of lack that something needs to be done, and I'm just the one to do it.....This is the EGO Construct... although maybe now in disguise as the spiritual ego... or the do-gooder ego... it's still the ego. I know you've said in the past that everything is not the ego... but before the ego falls away, that's exactly what's taking place. You're being controlled and manipulated by the egoic self agenda doing anything(good or bad) to perpetuate its illusory existence (seeking or running on the hamster wheel as I like to call it). Liberation is a falling away of this entire illusory egoic construct running the show in disguise as the you. Remember the ego doesn't like this message, it doesn't want to hear this message, it will do whatever its can to make sure this message isn't heard because it wants to survive... whether it's positive or negative for the organism. " The biggest obstacle to Discovery is not ignorance it's the illusion of knowledge" Simply put if you think you already have the answer you won't be willing to accept the truth of this message. ❤

Beware thou spiritual/selfless egoic self agenda, the sneakiest of all. It will send you on humanitarian missions to save humanity and to change the world for the better.(of course better in my opinion) Another wolf in sheep's clothing... the ego is so sneaky... it will try to build itself up anyway it can, whether it's positive or negative for the organism. The best way to completely rid ones self of the ego is to stop feeding it all together... Put it completely out of a job. Get entirely off the hamster wheel, deconstruct the hamster wheel, and put it in the trash compactor... Money is completely neutral it has nothing to do with being egoless.

Hehe....this is very funny ? I used to take some very good quality liquid LSD at barter fairs back 20 years ago.. Maybe: 20 LSD trips 10 mushroom 1 datura But apparently 20 years later going vegan overnight was enough of a paradigm shift to Rattle something loose and spark a heavy shift... That's why I'm VeganAwake(nobody) ?

Good luck man after like 50 minutes my hands and arms started curling inwards like a fetus... it was really trippy and totally relaxing... felt like I was floating in nothingness. Yeah focusing on the breathing is good advice ?

It sounded like God = Suffering and Misery for you. The attachment or belief that something needs to be a certain way is what can cause suffering. You are correct life doesn't care what you want... do you want to go with the current or against it. I assure you life doesn't care either way. What's really trippy is to recognize that even against the current, is still going with the current. You simply can't be outside of what's happening might as well accept it or not hehe...?

"A man without a beard and moustache is like a woman with a moustache and beard" - OSHO

The belief that there's an entity called God behind all of this...hmmm interesting ?

No need to identify with it... So there's a conditioned human body reacting to life... that's all that's going on... it's what's happening. See there isn't a YOU there, it just seems that way. Maintain as the witness like Eckhart Tolle talks about.... Home is when it's recognized nothing needs to happen Perfection is at hand❤

In the US military LOA stands for letter of appreciation. Maybe sit down and write a letter of all the things you appreciate in life. ?