VeganAwake

I've made a thread about the dangers of what you've created... You basically just took the understanding of the self being God and placed it on top of the egoic self agenda... That's why none of your material makes any sense if you realized your god what do you need to seek any longer? That's why Leo preaches doing the work for yourself you can't just listen to somebody else and believe your God and think you are liberated unfortunately it's not that easy bud..

Something about the message triggers.... Doesn't leave a leg for the separate individual to stand on. The separate sense of self does not want to hear there's nothing to do and nowhere to go... it keeps itself Alive by running on the hamster wheel seeking perpetuating it's illusory unreality. All seeking energy can do is continue to seek.. Of course we all know the stance on anything mattering...

And that God realization if it were absolutely true... Has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever... Only the human mind thinks there's something to find that's meaningful or purposeful.. A retarded man or woman sitting on the grass drooling all over the self is exactly the same as Einstein dedicating his whole life to discovery. None of it has any meaning purpose or value whatsoever except to an individual human mind that might believe it means something.. In the story or the dream there's someone or something going somewhere... there's apparent goals meaning purpose value things to do things that need to be done. When traditional or real Awakening occurs... what's recognized is there is no one here to attain anything... the seeking energy Falls away and getting somewhere becomes a laughable matter... Here is all there is... and it's an undescribable unknowable appearance that's real and unreal... The position that knows I am here is a dream. There's nowhere to go nothing to do and no one to do it. But of course it's also so free you can do whatever you want. Total boundless perfect freedom for No One... It's THIS ❤

I spoke with Robert Wolfe after getting in touch with Natalie gray she gave me his phone number... he lives over here in Ojai California.. I've also recently spoken with Andreas Muller Tony Parsons and Eric Putkonen. I used to say things like intellectually understanding THIS isn't the same as awakening but I've began to recognize it's all tied in together the apparent outcomes of this knowledge or Awakening seem to vary for different apparent individuals.( of course individual personalities also affect the apparent outcomes) One thing that was recognized is all these individuals seem to have a very neutral state of mind... A constant inner peace river is always flowing regardless of situations. Walking the middle path... the resistance to life has been dropped. The constant striving to get my life in a better position has fallen away... it's recognized every position is already it. I would describe Robert Wolfe as almost nihilistic but then I began to recognize he just doesn't hold one emotion higher than any other... he's very calm Collective and neutral consistently. I did get him to crack a little laugh when I mentioned that to him.. Nowadays I would describe Enlightenment as the complete surrender to life, no more resistance to what is, but if resistance arises that resistance isn't resisted(if that makes sense) the constant striving to get my position in life into a better spot is gone... it's recognized every spot is gloriously already THIS ❤

I posted a website in the high Consciousness resources that may or may not be helpful... Ajata sunyata (Robert Wolfe) the recognition that even Oneness and the absolute are ultimately illusory. Nothing from the very start... I shared it with a few people... it's very well written... easy to understand... Read the essays!!

Liberation is more for psychological suffering.. When there's physical pain in the body the suffering can be increased by resisting it and making a big story out of the pain... when Liberation occurs the pain is no longer for an individual, it's just what's happening... it's no longer resisted it's accepted greatly decreasing if not eliminating the overall suffering effects. There can still be physical pain in the body which can be frustrating and distracting... The resistance to what is causes the suffering..

I'm just not sure what you're going to find Leo... To me God is Infinite Boundless Energy with pure potentiality... I don't sense an intelligence behind it that has a goal or purpose... I guess you could say it's intelligence lies in the fact that it has infinite potential. Meaning and purpose don't appear to be on its radar at all. I'm just not sure what you're trying to pin down, something that's infinite cannot be intellectually understood... Aren't you a little concerned you're going to run your avatar into the ground trying to understand the unknowable. I say this and simultaneously I guess you would never know until you try it for yourself ❤

This would be the closest one I would be aware of..

You are honest....like that ?

The separate self lives in a world of Hope and meaning. It believes if it looks hard enough it will find something that makes it feel complete. But nothing is missing and that which seeks isn't real. So basically finding an answer for the separate self is hopeless because there isn't one.. it's an illusion or misidentification with energy as a real entity.

"Non dualism points to the unknowing emptiness, appearing as what is, which is beyond experience and knowing" - Jim Newman

Is Trump going to win the election?

Yes nothing wrong with making the dream a little more comfortable.. Just being aware of the dream and egoic self agenda is priceless ?

The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge.- Daniel J. Boorstin After talking with dozens of people seeking enlightenment or on the spiritual path, I started catching on to something very interesting... All the things they believe they need to do or not do to attain enlightenment. You see it is not the seeking or the practice that is the problem it is thinking you have found the answer and some external form that is the problem. I actually put together a list of roadblocks one of my good friends had created for himself after talking with him for several months: 1) he believed if he did not meditate when certain planets were aligned he might miss an opportunity to awaken. 2) he believed that meditating near Wi-Fi would render the practice useless. 3) that eating a raw vegan diet was a necessity. 4) that using a microwave will slow down progression. 5) that water fasting was mandatory because it got rid of fear. 6) that if he could just find that one piece of ancient Egyptian knowledge it would be the magic key. 7) if you can find the secrets of the gnostics and Freemasons it will open the gate. But nothing compared to his biggest roadblock of all.... Believing he was already enlightened!! See when you believe you have already attained Enlightenment you will not go through the difficult work of completely dropping the ego's self agenda, shedding the layers, becoming nobody and diving into the murky waters of the Abyss with only a thin piece of fishing line tied to your small toe to keep you from completely disattaching forever. Early on one of my own personal roadblocks was thinking I was not a nice enough person to deserve enlightenment. This path can already be difficult enough and everything you need on the journey is already in your own backpack so before you leave, toss to the side your roadblock material and booby traps. Trust me it's not needed. Are you creating roadblocks for yourself?

@Javfly33 ❤ ?

The ego needs separation to exist... Creating more separation by feeding the Ego and demonizing some Guru only perpetuates..

Nothing you've said sounds egoic... sounds like you have clear observation.. There isn't anything that's really good or bad... That's just mind junk... Yes BEING is all there is... nothing else to learn ?

The ego or separate self only cares about one thing, Self Preservation... It doesn't matter what the organisms Endeavor is, the ego or separate self will take credit from the beginning or try to sneak in the back door and take credit. This is how it keeps itself alive. The ego is endlessly needy.. It truly is a chameleon... It can become any identity: - the spiritual ego - the do-gooder ego - the fix yourself ego - the nothing matters ego - the everything Is Love ego The ego wants more more more for me me me... More money more power more love more enlightenment more sex more material possessions more conditioning more self-help more compassion more practices Again the ego is endlessly needy... The answer never lies within perpetuating or validating the belief of the separate self or ego...( running on the hamster wheel) You literally have to stop feeding this monster... take the wind out of its sail... let it deflate... become aware of it... Shine the light of awareness on it. Become aware your mind is controlling you disentangle from social conditioning and snap out of The Matrix... free yourself & your mind..

There is no discounting anyting..❤ God self other all the same thing... No preference in everything... This is a 100% all-inclusive resort with no restrictions or limitations whatsoever...

There's no self there's no higher there's no lower there's no God there's no angels there's no masculine there's no feminine there's only THIS... what's happening, completely Indescribable and unknowable.. Separation names labeling projection only occur in the dream..

You got it ?.. Start dropping the layers of armor ( self-identification) Become completely vulnerable... Notice there's no one under the armor... then you will be free..

Masculine and feminine are like peas and carrots... there's no real separation or difference it's just what's happening. Mind attempts to separate and label things and put them in boxes so I can understand what's happening. Separation never occurred and the I was never apart from the isness..❤

Recognize the one that thinks it needs to practice isn't real ❤

Stop seeking outwardly and turn within... The answer isn't around the next corner or on the next YouTube video it's found within... Recognize the self is an illusion just a bunch of ideas beliefs and perceptions held about yourself ..there is no real entity there. The ME is Maya the illusion... Drop it damn it...drop it like it's ?