VeganAwake

yes a lot of assumptions... it's just sensed from reading his material.. That's the thing about Tony he's not trying to transmit anything... any energy or path or method would simply be perpetuating the belief that there is a seperate individual that can find something called liberation.. It's kind of funny in Denmark they call him the Terminator because he's helped awaken so many people.... I honestly appreciate your feedback though a lot of good information shared here...thank you

I've definitely heard this material before... I've heard this guy talk several times... not a fan... these guys all Advocate that there's some kind of path that can be followed or steps taken to reach the top(ultimate stage) This is not at all how Liberation works( quite literally the opposite)... Liberation is not a gaining of knowledge for the illusory individual... it's a falling away of the entire self structure/egoic self agenda driving the machine. There's a noticeable insecurity and lack of understanding in this statement below: This new sage can protest vehemently that there is nobody here, there is only no-self, I don't exist - but it just doesn't ring true. Who exactly is it who is asserting that they don't exist? It smells a little fishy. He sounds to me like somebody who had a deep experience but didn't quite reach liberation... didn't quite shatter the paradigm completely. He probably now resents others that did and makes a story that there are more stages past this because he's upset he didn't attain it or it wasn't full Awakening and it didn't stick. You will notice with these guys that there's no end... even after you reach loc 1000 you still need to integrate the experience and on and on it goes running on the hamster wheel... I'm surprised they haven't made another book called 2000 ? That's just what is seen here, it could be completely wrong.. Thank you very much for the information ❤

Good points.. I've tried to explain the freedom the message ultimately points to... It's really an attempt to deprogram some of the deep societal conditioning... Meaning purpose value and things mattering, are like a wolf in sheep's clothing... on the outside they appear comforting until the egoic self agenda gets a hold of them and they become vicious taskmasters down the road. For someone that used to suffer from anxiety it would seem like the burden of things Mattering being dropped, would be a positive... but yes the message is completely misunderstood in almost every way possible. Conditioning runs deep. Thank you for the positive feedback... It may be apparently beneficial to break the message down and reword it differently.

well of course the ego wants to survive.

The opposite of what you just said is true... Nothing matters infinitely...why Because the YOU that believes things matter is an illusion... not kind of an illusion not sort of an illusion ...there isn't a you inside the body period. You could explain all day how something matters for No One but trust me it doesn't ? it's not a debatable topic it's simply the case.

And just being... has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever it doesn't matter in any way at all.

Harness all your external seeking energy and turn 180 degrees within... Sit on a chair with your eyes closed and ask yourself these questions: 1) What is this 'ME' character?... 2) Where does it reside inside the body? 3) What does this 'ME' character consist of? Try to find the answer to all three of these questions ❤

Yes this is exactly right and that's why every single teacher is more like a stepping stone... simultaneously giving someone a method or teaching can be counterintuitive and become a roadblock rather than a stepping stone.

That's valuable feedback I see exactly what you mean... sometimes I feel like I'm trying to pull people up to the roof of the rope without knowing the Rope is tied to a car lol. It's also difficult because everybody is sort of at different places and has different understanding. That post is a good idea....thank you ❤

No one is seeking and asking the questions that's why it's called illusion of the self(Maya) Yes the separate self will always have a sense of purpose. You're... was used as a figure of speech, language is dualistic in nature. The limitations of language does not constitute a misunderstanding. Correct, there is no individual energy but there's an apparent human body that can lose energy. Duality isn't real.. an illusion of separation or two does not make it true.

If you would have said lmao one more time it would have been a new forum record.? Everything matters for no one... that's interesting. Your whole story kind of just falls apart there so there's no need to go any further. Fortunately it doesn't matter!!

It just doesn't ever seem like it's fully grasped from a me here and everything else out there perspective...

Here's a video you might enjoy or not..

? that's a good one...needed that laugh ❤

No you're not getting it... nothing actually matters because there isn't anyone here for it to matter for... The self that you think you are inside the human body is an illusion(MAYA) How could something matter for No One

Well you can't really have more of everything it's just what happens for No One... ego no ego...8 billion apparent separate individuals wanting to crucify you... maybe they will But none of it has any meaning purpose or value whatsoever... Only in the dream of the individual do things matter..

It's unconditional love

This message isn't nihilistic... It's the Deep recognition that there aren't any individuals for anything to matter for. This message kind of takes the wind out of the sail... or the steam out of the steam boat.. When there was nothing there from the start words are meaningless...❤ It's a freedom message for No One

The individual ME will always think it's important and meaningful... Look it's ME, the center of the universe... Remember the appearance of things mattering doesn't equal it actually mattering... that's just how it seems in the dream. Just because it appears there are 8 billion separate individuals does not actually make it true... in this sense Duality isn't real it's just believed in.... The illusory belief in individualism doesn't make it true...

I see your point... remember it's not important for the message to come across and be resonated with... I love your passion❤ It's a freedom message for No One... it will be found by the freedom Seekers

Well the crazy thing is there isn't an 'I' inside the body over there... that's Maya... I have unconditional love for everything though... as weird as it is

Just checking...lol..... twins seem to come out of the woodwork sometimes if you know what I mean.. ?

Yeah that's it guys go for it ?

There isn't Subject and Object happening. There isn't a ME observing everything else out there..that's Duality. There isn't Relativity happening inside of Absolutely... that's Duality. Duality happens within the dream... This can't be understood from the ME being here and everything else out there dualistic perspective.

Your body has been conditioned and knows what to do to survive... It's the sense of me ...the individual that is the illusion... That sense of me was not there at Birth ....it grows