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@egoeimai ❤ here's some ET

Are you as addicted to sparkling water as I am? I Can't Get Enough... the carbonation zero sweetener zero calories and Zero caffeine and zero sodium.... This black cherry flavor is da bomb ?

Nailed it / Yahtzee ? ❤

Yep... it's already the case... it's what happens... Perfect whole complete incomprehensible Indescribable this It's Unknowing ❤

@Nahm ❤ so simple it's overlooked ❤

Not casting judgement or saying anything is right or wrong here but notice... The concept of how something as to automatically be there when the ego illusion Falls away such as God true self higher self... Could this just be another concept or thought created by the same dream... The ego construct is very cunning and it does not want to be recognized for what it truly is unreal... The Ego Mind cannot conceive of its own unreality... It will create whatever identity it needs to to keep it self intact... This is sometimes referred to as the spiritual ego which can sneak in the back door and claim itself as the new profound spiritual higher self or true self... This time it's extra sneaky because it senses it's own demise.. ❤

The conditioned body/mind makes the decision and then the separate sense of self takes ownership of it and believes it made the choice. Have you ever driven somewhere and then felt like you didn't even realize you had gone.... that's because the body can drive a car it doesn't need a sense of self... It will also turn its head if its name is called and jump out of the way of a moving train... shoot it will even prefer coffee over tea or dark chocolate over white sometimes... It's just apparently happens but there isn't a real 'I' inside the body controlling everything.

Well that's the experience there and that's perfect whole and complete... Duality isn't real so there's nothing to worry about ❤

@egoeimai when there isn't any attention paid to the thoughts that say otherwise it's rather easy...❤

Yes...That luminess emptiness prior to thought is the nothing....and then the thought arises there 'I am'

Conditioned thoughts can still arise but there is no one who could take ownership of them... This is liberation ❤

First and foremost the cornerstone of non-duality is the recognition of No Self. When this is recognized, there can be a drastic shift in perception and a so-called seeing through or shattering of the ego construct or self agenda paradigm that believed it was a separate individual located within the body. When this occurs it's simultaneously recognized there never was a separate individual that could ever have something called a Non Dual Awakening or experience. That entire belief or way of perceiving dissolves( hence why it's called an illusion and a very persistent one at that... it's the closest word that can describe this illusory separate self experience; aka duality) Duality is then recognized for what it is, a misunderstanding or a misidentification with thought and energy as the 'ME' character located in the body. It can then seem silly or futile to say that Duality collapses or is transcended because it's recognized to have never been real in the first place. Something that was never real doesn't collapse or get transcended... it's simply recognized for what it truly is, unreal. " The separation never occurred" -- A Course in Miracles (ACIM) To say something collapses or gets transcended is subtly saying that it was real to begin with... which then brings you back into the dream that Duality is actually a thing. Now this does not mean that there aren't apparent separate bodies walking around with apparent space or distance located between them.... what is being pointed to is, there isn't anyone inside the body... there isn't a separate individual 'ME' character located within the bodies. Be aware that some of these so-called non-dual teachers that preach that your true self or higher self is ultimately Consciousness are still functioning within the dream They cannot go beyond the confines or understanding of their own mind and recognize that the self is simply and completely unreal, so they just adopt another concept and believe they then must be higher consciousness or God or something like that... this is how tricky true non-duality can be ....even the apparent best of all time we're still caught within the dream that there is someone or something here that is conscious of everything out there(it's still subtle duality) There isn't anything wrong with it because it's WHAT IS....it's THIS!! It's absolutely radical unbelievable incomprehensible and perfect for No One!! ❤ ❤ ❤

Gotcha and totally understand... This recognition does not necessarily change the outer experience. There is still apparent separate bodies living life... It's just recognized that the separate sense of self within that body was simply a misidentification with thought and energy as the ME character... The stickiness of the self within the body is no longer there... things are no longer personal... conditioned thoughts and emotions can still arise but they are not believed to be yours any longer they are just simply arising out of nothing for nothing... The resistance to What IS is dropped, and the belief or feeling of personal psychological suffering goes along with it. apparent problems can still arise.. there can be pain in the body, your wife can still get murdered you can still lose your job and your house.. The best way to describe it is it's completely ordinary and extraordinary simultaneously... but for No One ❤

It wasn't an assumption or a judgement... And it's not about anything being right or wrong.. This communication transcends the idea of anything being right or wrong. And I'm sure there is awareness there of the fact that 99% of the population believes they are separate individuals within the body/mind organism. This message is a communication pointing to the fact that everything is already whole complete and perfect... There is no one here that knows anything...

So what is underneath the thought I am? Is it just another thought? What is I am.. What does it consist of... Where is it located... ❤

M@JayG84 that's why this work requires an emptying of the glass... It's not another gaining of another insight... It's a dropping of Concepts and insights all together... Enlightenment or Awakening isn't a gaining of knowledge or an attainment of some sort that will be had in the future...( it's to die before you die) it could be said it's literally the opposite of what the Mind wants to do... the Mind wants to conceptualize understand label put things in a box and check it off as understood. Awakening transcends the minds limited ability to conceptualize and understand. Check out the video on YouTube Samadhi (Maya illusion of the self) if you haven't already.... If something underneath the thinking thinking mind can resonate with this video you will be on your way... it's at least a start a very good video ❤

Correct ...non-duality is just a word pointing to everything exactly as it appears for No One. The map is not the territory... Non-duality being a negative philosophy it's just a projection about it coming from a conditioned mind. In its original meaning it points to the fact that there is not 2... there is not a perceiver and the perceived... there is not a subject witnessing the object... there is not a ME and everything else out there. ❤

The only difference (if it could be called that) between this transmission quoting Ramana and the one conveyed on this thread are the choice words used such as Consciousness,True Self, Higher Self, Infinity and so on... reason being, it still sounds dualistic as in there is something or someone that has attained this Consciousness or Higher Self/True Self realization. Of course these are the limitations of language which is dualistic in nature... it really depends on how the words are perceived. In fact listening to this video it actually sounds like the way that Consciousness and True Self are being used are just pointers to what apparently appears after Awakening which is everything that appears AKA THIS!! An empty fullness; a pregnant nothingness; its real and unreal. It is what it is... there is no meaning purpose or value to any of it because there is no one here for it to matter for ❤

This faulty set up or line of questioning is part of the issue... See you believe there is a separate self inside the body that can find something outside of itself to solve its apparent problem. In other words the question is: how does something that's not real recognize its own unreality? The answer is it doesn't... the separate self cannot and will not ever hear this message because it's senses its own demise in the outcome. You cannot use the thinking mind to recognize no self... STOP THINKING.... and look at what is true... What is it, that makes up the 'YOU' inside the body? Not how does it feel, but what is it made out of? Where is it located? ❤ stop thinking just look

You are still claiming those thoughts as yours subtly... they are not your thoughts.... they are just thoughts arising for no one.... just sit with those thoughts, don't give them attention and don't ignore them just sit with them. You couldn't divide yourself from anyone even if you wanted to because there is no you. This makes Duality an impossibility because there were never any separate individuals to begin with. There's no need to transcend Something That Never Was. Duality is simply a misunderstanding nothing more. ❤

No need to attempt to drop thoughts, rather recognize that thoughts just arise. There's no need to take ownership of them, no need to identify with them as 'MY' thoughts.... they are not your thoughts, they are just thoughts arising for no one. When you stop identifying with thoughts and giving them attention, they can decrease to almost no thoughts arising at all. ❤

It's so simple that its overlooked... The mind thinks it will find a solution to its apparent problem which will give it fulfillment at a future date. It believes that if it just comes across the right information it will find the hidden secret of creation. But this whole setup it's like running on a hamster wheel...it feels like you're getting somewhere but you're actually just spinning your tires because there is nothing to be found. Everything is already whole complete and perfect... nothing is missing, so nothing could be found. The ego / mind does not want to hear this message because it senses its own death.... the ego says seek but do not find. The constant seeking perpetuates the belief that there is a real 'ME' that will one day find what it's looking for and finally be fulfilled.... The solution to the apparent problem isn't finding something externally... The solution is recognizing there is nothing to find. It's getting off the hamster wheel and letting the seeking energy / ego construct die out. Everything is unknowable because the one that believes it can know something is Maya (illusion of self). The illusory self-identity within the body starts forming at a very young age and builds on top of itself as you get older. You start identifying with thoughts, ideas, beliefs, perceptions and energy as the 'ME' character within the body. Sometimes this energetic misidentification can collapse which could be referred to as Awakening or Enlightenment. So if there was an answer to "what is happening" it could be said that its unknowable because there really isn't anyone here to know anything. It's unknowable and indescribably perfect whole and complete for know one.... Its everything that apparently arises... It's THIS!!!

Yes they just don't make them like they used to in the late 70's & 80s...

Sorry couldn't resist one of my favorite movies of all time...?

how is there more to go when everything is already itself... whole complete and perfect. Just like Duality doesn't collapse because it was never real to begin with. You're so-called god-realization is just a thought in your mind... And even if you did recognize yourself as god which you are not... it absolutely has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever ...you have no higher powers or any kind of special abilities in any way at all. You are not special for believing that you are God ?