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@WaveInTheOcean You are unconditional love, you nailed it ?...I misspoke ❤ Thought you might like this since you mentioned Eckhart Tolle... I keep it in my truck ?

@WaveInTheOcean ❤ I definitely wasn't trying to hurt you I was trying to help you. There's a lot of information out there. I was just pointing out that you can expand out... get different perspectives and insight. I've spoken with dozens of other people that have had similar experiences(its not a mystical secret).... and it's great to hear others experiences from different circles. I think you're amazing having gone through those struggles and its great to have a friend to confide in like that. ❤ ❤ ❤

@James123 don't think about it...Look Where is this self located in the body? Is it between the eyes? Is it in the chest or stomach? For god sakes it's not in your pocket!! It's not real!! It's a misidentification with thoughts feelings beliefs sensations in the body, all conditioned from the past.

There is no self period. ❤

Hehe nice timing ? ❤

They're just thoughts and feelings arising for No One... no need to keep them in your pocket. See we start believing in the 'self identity' from a young age... and then each and every thought and experience that arises, 'YOU' identify with as "YOUR" thought or 'YOUR' experience. But they're not "YOUR" thoughts and feelings because 'YOU' are also just a bundle of conditioned thoughts. There is no thinker of thoughts.... They are just conditioned thoughts that arise from past experiences. See it's not that thinking and feeling needs to be bypassed or regulated... it's just recognized there isn't an actual owner of these thoughts and feelings.... they're not personal they're just arising for no reason.

no not kidding at all... I don't think you even understand what Liberation actually is because you're full of concepts adopted from others. They will be able to tell quickly trust that..

Are you curious if others outside of this forum would consider you awakened? I've received confirmation several months ago and cross-checked from multiple Liberation Unleashed Guides which all agreed that Liberation has occurred here although the illusion of self had been seen through over a year ago. If you truly want to make sure you're not kidding yourself or being mislead... I would consider it ❤ Here's some of the information from their website: We are fully aware of the fact that the term “Liberation” has different meanings in different traditions. In order to not set up false expectations, we'd like to make it clear that we use the word in a very specific way. In the context of Liberation Unleashed, liberation refers to the clear, unambiguous and direct realisation of the absence of a separate self. Because not everyone, perhaps no one comes to the Gate without at least some degree of latent tendencies, what we refer to as liberation may not be what you expect of it. Seeing self for what it really is - a story, does not mean that your life is suddenly upgraded in every conceivable way. Old habits, beliefs, programming and conditioning will very probably remain in place. Awakening from the story of you allows old patterns to drop away quickly. The foundation upon which these patterns were based is gone. In this sense, liberation is just the beginning.

Why even call it consciousness, why not just Everything. ❤ Reason being I feel like some get the impression it's some mystical state off in la-la land that is not here already. Either you are identified as the separate 'self' and believe you are the center of the universe(the dream) Or You recognize the separate self is illusory and everything is already perfect whole and complete as it's always been for no one(awake) Also just shedding some light on this ?

Totally get it... Here it was like: "huh that's strange" lol... Then the next day drawing pictures of an onion like object shedding layers of the conditioned self haha. Felt like something profound and nothing simultaneously. ?

The recognition for no one that there's nothing to find and no one who could find it because it's already everything. ?

Think of it like a mirage in the desert... Although it's not real, it has the ability to trick you into walking endlessly for a drink of water just ahead. So in that sense it's real until it's recognized it's not... and of course ultimately it was never real... it was a mirage. ❤

@Someone here check out from 4:00-12:05 & 44:00-53:25 ❤

It cannot conceive of its own unreality because it recognizes that's its own death..." to die before you die" There for the ego or separate sense of self can only say one thing...." this is not it".... as long as the seeking continues it stays alive... running on the hamster wheel forever seeking fulfillment in the future so the ego can survive... He he he he crazy right.

I use ego and separate sense of 'self' interchangeably. Holy mackerel do you read anything 'I' post ❤ jk Not the identification WITH... that would imply duality.... as if there's something else identifying with the illusion no. It's the identification AS THE thoughts feelings perceptions beliefs accumulated knowledge labels concepts and contracted energy within the body that has layered since around 2 or 3 yrs old and become the illusory separate self-identity today. Because it's all you know and most don't inquire enough to recognize it.... it's kind of like that term "if it's not broke don't try and fix it" And who wants to find out there an illusion anyways.... definitely not the ego or separate sense of self, that's its entire reality... it's only capable of saying I amimportant; I have purpose ;I am meaningful and I am valuable... me me me.. I am the center of the universe.

The thread was intended for people that are able to empty their glass... for unknowers. Good luck to you as well ❤

Dang pookie out of the blue with No Fear ....where have you been my whole life ❤ My oldest son's nickname is actually pookie bear.... I have no idea where it came from lol. Interesting reply thanks for sharing.

Hehe like that ?

Its apparent... real and unreal

@WelcometoReality thank you ?

I listened to the videos and I get exactly what part you're talkin about...❤ I don't think there is an answer to this.. that seeking energy either dies or it does not... either instantaneously or over time. Here it was like an initial energy collapsing upon the recognition that 'I' was the seeking energy and it wasn't a real entity.... then overtime it felt like more seeking energy fell away because there was no one holding it up any longer. One thing that was noticed is a lot of these teachers teach from the point of view that there is a separate individual that can find something in the future called enlightenment... Tony Parsons Jim Newman Andreas Muller and a few other non-duality teachers recognize that the sense of self is illusory from the beginning and the belief that there is a separate individual that can attain something called Full Enlightenment in the future is just perpetuating the belief in the separate 'self' and keeping the illusion alive. Wow it definitely is a pathless path right good luck to you my brother ❤

@WelcometoReality thought you might like this statement: Seeking for something better in the future makes what's experienced now feel inadequate and causes more suffering. It's like getting back on the hamster wheel.

@WelcometoReality When the sense of self or seeking energy collapses there isn't anyone It can apparently unravel instantaneously or over time. No I don't know... no one does because there are no actual individuals. When the self or seeking energy collapses it's simultaneously recognized it never existed thus the seeking ends because there isn't anyone left who wants to find something and there's nothing to find anyways. It was already here all along!!

This is a great video very relative to what's been discussed ❤