VeganAwake

😅 maybe I should have just listened and not watched. I will take your word for it though!

I will never forget the moment this finger here pressed play on this video. I never knew you had such hate for me! 🤣 I feel like I may have acquired a sexually transmitted disease from just clicking on the play button!

MMA is to Fighting what Nonduality is to Spirituality

Maybe it's the thrill of the chase/search and the mysteriousness of the key that intises!

When there was identification as a self, it seemed like there was a constant and desperate need to find the answers to everything. The 5 w's; who, what, when, where, why It needed to discover the truth about everything, and it was the perfect self for the task!

If the first delusion isn't seen through, there will be endless delusions to work through. It will seem like a lot of progress is being made. Like unknowingly using a map of the wrong territory to guide you. The seeking may never end because it will always feel like something is missing and needs to be found. Look at what's looking for something.

What if you had never heard or learned about ego. Would it still feel/seem like there was a different context of self?

No mind; no self; unknowing; nothingness; liberation; enlightenment, are all pointing to the same thing The end of experiencing/perceiving reality through the conditioned mind Understanding that something vastly infinite, cannot ever be fully grasped by something limited It could be named, labeled and described endlessly for infinite lifetimes In that sense it's unknowable

Then that's what's being experienced there! It's whole, complete and perfect. There is no issue here with that or what anyone else you mentioned believes or has said 🙏

Because I was trying to poke at the self-illusion over there.......👉, trying to get it fired up.....make it more obvious. The self and ego you are describing is the same illusion. The ego runs deeper and is more prevalent than you're giving it credit. It's that which is shaping the perception there.

The "self" is that Breakingthewall character that believes itself to be all of reality. That which places certain spiritual figures on a pedestal to idolize, and simultaneously disregards others that dont seem to match its parameters of belief. Its that character that feels threatened when it's belief system is put into question and then doubles down to secure its foundational delusions of grandiose. Circular logic is one of its most used survival strategies. It sounds secure enough in its beliefs, but it is actually deathly afraid of looking inwards and recognizing its own unreality. It's that which feels its got so much to loose because of how much spiritual knowledge it believes it has gained over the years. It believes itself to be fairly high up on the spiritual ladder and is deeply invested in identifying as that character that knows.

Sincere misunderstanding due to partial or incomplete awakening experience. If the survival strategy/identification game of the self illusion isn’t recognized clearly, I would describe it as incomplete.

I would guess it probably just started off as a story, but then after gaining some popular belief, it was realized it could be used to manipulate and control behavior.

What sometimes seems to happen during a mystical experience is the energy used to uphold the "self identification construct" temporarily collapses and seems to dissipate back into everything. When this occurs it creates an intense feeling of freedom, wholeness, all-inclusiveness or "being everything". But eventually this "energetic self identification" returns, but with the misunderstanding of being everything now instead of just the small limited body/mind. This phenomenon is often referred to as the spiritual ego, and it's almost impossible to be seen through. It really just ends of being an incomplete enlightenment experience.