VeganAwake

Yep, Nothing actually needs to be surrendered because it's already not there. There isn't a someone/something in which could surrender. There isn't a someone/something to be surrendered. No surrenderer and no surrendered. It's not a future surrendering event which has to take place first. This is already enlightenment. The believer/meditator/knower/realizer, isn't there now. This is already freedom and unconditional love.

He is describing authentic awakening details. Meaning purpose and value are clearly seen through I don't understand his motivation to teach. I think that body must like it!

Sounds like a fictional story from the Chronicles of Inflated Ego Land 🤔

Everything is already "what it is" prior to anything/anyone labeling it as "True or False". There can be misunderstandings about reality............but it doesn't change anything 🤷‍♂️

Ahh, the do nothing practice. Ego's will turn anything into a spiritual practice.....even doing nothing 🤑

The self construct is supposed to be the prison wall in this metaphor. Watch example at 15:15

The fear of death

Enlightenment throws the baby out with the bathwater though! It's the end of delusion and perspective, because it's the end of that which could become diluted and have a perspective. Or rather it's the clear recognition that it never even started. The knower of these so-called rigid belief systems, dogmas, relative perspectives and absolute truths.........is gone with the wind 😳

There is a biological body, but that which would claim that it transcended the social ego is still the self illusion. Both social ego and that which says "I've transcended" is the same self illusion 😳 It's often referred to as spiritual ego.......it's essentially the same self illusion but disguised as the true self which transcended the small self........nope, still just same self illusion 😅

Yes that is exactly what the "sense of self" can seem to feel like,.......a long drawn out process being constantly updated by societal conditioning (surroundings) What's being said is that can end. That solid feeling of a "someone" being continuously reconstructed can stop. And when it does, it's simultaneously recognized to have never actually started. It's an energetic shift away from upholding that "needy reconstructing self illusion". Its permanent and not anything like a passing nondual state, personal awakening experience or drug indused no self glimpse. It's very rare. Infact since about 2018 I've only noticed maybe 2 people on this forum, and 7 or 8 others in total, clearly talking about what I'm describing here. It's unknowing because its the end of the knower which never actually existed. It's unconditional freedom for nobody which was already the case ❤️

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Who is writing this topic? What makes up the Hyperion character? Like literally, what does it consist of? Can it be located? I'm not talking about the physical body of Hyperion, I'm asking about the character. I'm asking about the thinker of thoughts. Who or what wants to become enlightened? What is that?

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There isn't an "I" now that knows itself, so there won't be one later either! That which seems to know itself currently, is self illusion 🤔