VeganAwake

Wow, you could help people as a therapist. Very interesting, Here there wasn't much backlash/annihilation pain or at least it wasn't long lived. It was clearly seen that the self construct or ego-mind construct was simply never real from the start.....it only seemed to be ❤️

It's not known, but it seems to be recognized when the knower goes bye bye! Seems that nothing seemingly recognizes this......it doesn't make logical sense, "I know" 🤣 Unknowing/Unknowable ❤️

It's just not a something to be applied or integrated.....It's not a method to be used or a way of perceiving reality. It's every way, every perception, every method and every path. And in that sense it's simultaneously none of them! Everything & Nothing! It's all inclusive or all encompassing. The pathless path, wayless way, methodless method 🤣 If it could be integrated it would be duality or separate. Wholeness is already perfectly integrated ❤️

Hence: Religion and spirituality = hope

Full of appearance. Empty of meaning, purpose and value. Empty of a real lasting experiencer. The conditioned illusion of self, doesn't like the way this sounds. It's biggest problem is death. It wants to avoid death at all costs, but its already not alive (cosmic joke) Empty = bad Full = good Everything = good Nothing = bad Real me = good Unreal me = bad It can't fathom its own unreality. It avoids seeing it clearly at all costs. ❤️

Everything is human level, no need to say "come to the human level" when that's all there is. Agreed, everything is a temporary appearance, but it's not reflecting anything. Emptiness has no reflection. There isn't a now and there also isn't a before or after birth....all 3 are empty and ungraspable illusions of time! Gift of consciousness? Who gave you that gift? The consciousness fairy lol? Unneeded words! Yes the body learns to read and write from a young age.... Is this surprising to you? Silly and funny? Umm sure, why not! ❤️

It's not a real thing! Sounds nice though 😁

Trust....I've been slapped before 😆 The point was, there isn't a real You inside the body getting slapped or doing the slapping. There isn't a Higher Non Egoic You beneath a lower egoic you......they are the same illusion!

Same illusion

There wasn't anyone there! It was recognized that even the idea of something called "the truth" stemmed from this nothingness or illusion of self! ❤️

What is You? You is the illusion! ❤️

Even if something was apparently comprehended, who would there be to compare it with to fact check the apparent comprehension?

Or it's puzzling because there isn't an answer that can be grasped or comprehended.

What authority declares what a higher or lower perspective even is? Some overly happy brainwashed guru? Old scriptures from the diamond sutra? The old testament? A compilation of spiritual teachings? How can there be a higher or lower anything, if there isn't an actual authority dictating it! ❤️