VeganAwake

Nothing goes on existing eternally because nothing is existing temporarily. This is what enlightenment illuminates. It's also what "to die before you die" and "nobody becomes enlightened" is referring to. Enlightenment is the end of that conditioned "me character" trying to attain it. It's the end of something that was never real, it was an illusion. It's the end of knowing because it's the end of the knower.

Do you think you could just be identifying as "eternal reality" to escape the agonizing fear of death? Just like how a christian believes their soul will live forever in the kingdom of heaven after body death.

The kingdom of heaven is already everything. Everything is already religion, it's just people don't see it!

It's not! But ego's wants never become satisfied, but that isn't wrong or bad......it's just the way the cookie crumbles

At its core, everyone is afraid of death and desperately looking for a solution. Both are subtle attempts to avoid death..........that's why it sells so well Some would say it's an attempt to discover the truth......but they believe the truth will set them free, which kinda sounds like avoiding death. Fear of the unknown is a very very powerful emotion. Lots of money to be made in diminishing people's fear.

Sounds like a personal behavior issue. Nobody is forcing anyone to believe anything. But I get what you mean 🤷‍♂️

It's also for saying I hate you, punching, smiling, burning biblical transcripts, fighting each other with a shit load of expectations! Yup its that free 😁

Conditioned society and its constructs or parameters is like the external matrix. Internal matrix is more like the deep seeded belief systems taught to someone at a young age. An example would be like someone that believes it's wrong in the eyes of the lord to engage in premarital sex and may feel guilty and or conflicted about that if they had. Or Someone that believes it's their god given duty to solve world hunger and works tirelessly to send enough donation money each month and would feel extreme guilt upon failure to meet their self created goal. In a broad sense the term matrix is just simply referring to the experience of the conditioned self illusion living within conditioned society!

Haha yup, I use, self/ego/no self/self illusion/sense of self/separate self/self construct, all interchangeably.

Ego/self illusion, would never destroy itself. It wants to reap all the benefits of everything including enlightenment.

It's completely normal. Being problematic or not is just perspective. It can be recognized that this needy egoic structure that wants this knowledge is completely illusory though. But its not ego that recognizes it and eliminates itself, it's nothingness 😳

Basically when the self illusion dies, everything just becomes obvious. The body just feels more relaxed than it did before when it was running around in the matrix of self illusion and doing things according to its conditioned societal upbringing. Here it's obvious that there is no god or satan; heaven or hell; incarnation or reincarnation; no higher or lower authority or universal purpose or meaning. It's incredibly easy to recognize that all these beliefs and concepts are just fictional human made stories. Religion, spirituality, societal structure..........it's all BS.......totally made up crap. It's freedom from all that stuff! It's shocking and hilarious when it's seen clearly!

Nothingness was referring to the self-illusion which identifies as being the whole of reality there. Another name for that self-illusion is spiritual ego. It's not really there, it's nothingness in disguse as being everything. Reality doesn't have an identification crisis like conditioned humans. That Breakingthewall body over there is a tiny insignificant piece of reality, it's not the whole. Laying an illusory blanket of conditioned beliefs overtop of reality to suit the spiritual ego's false agenda, doesn't make it true. There isn't a "You" in which could be the whole of reality and never will be. I can assure you of this. It's not an opinion, it's a blatant fact. The self-illusion there has been bamboozled by some kind of egoic spiritual nonsense that sounded good. That is not Enlightenment. Thats delusions of a very strong and persistent spiritual ego that will fight tooth and nail to stay in control. The physical bodies that write back and forth on this forum are real, just like deer, bear, rabbit, fox, birds, trees.....etc...etc... It's that which identifies as being "the whole of reality" which is completely unreal

Nothingness