VeganAwake

Truth = We are temporary organisms on a planet that sustains life. I would be very skeptical of anyone or any belief system claiming to know more than that.

This is similar to what I would describe as enlightenment. With enlightenment both perspectives are simultaneously the reality and clearly seen to have always been the case. It's understood why there seemed to be that experience of separation.

Well sure, survival seems to matter from a personal perspective. The fear of pain and death(unknown) is a very powerful emotion. Ultimately nothing matters though because every living organism will eventually die including you and me. Life seems to matter because the alternative, death, is unfamiliar and terrifying for most. Imo, a programed biological desire for survival doesn't necessarily make it important. Both tribes were going to die eventually no matter what. I mean, every single living being from that Era, is now dead........so what did it really matter?..........it didn't actually. It only seemed to matter temporarily. Makes no difference at all in the big picture.

Sometimes choices that seem correct at the time, are later realized to be incorrect. "Nothing mattering" loves preferences and choices. It's the freedom to choose x every time if you want. Wouldn't it be interesting to see the faces of people who spent their entire lives trying to save the planet, only to have a giant meteorite the size of Australia smash into planet earth at 118 times the speed of sound, vaporizing every living organism in an instant? Can you imagine watching that happen from a spaceship in outer space?

@Breakingthewall I get what you mean. I was just sharing the website, because I used to be stationed in the military near Robert Wolfe's home in Ojai, California. Apparently J. Krishnamurti also lived near by. Robert passed away in 2021. Imo, nothing is a recipe or guide to live by........not Ajata, Jim Newman, Tony Parsons, Ramana or Buddha. They are just pointing or attempting to expose something. Let me ask you a question. Did anything matter before you were born? Was anything meaningful or meaningless? When that body dies, do things still matter for the living?

@Breakingthewall It's pointing to impermanence and meaninglessness It's not necessarily a denial of current physical reality but it simultaneously is also. It's a denial of its permanence and meaning. Like a mirage or illusion, it ultimately lacks in reality regardless of the period of time in which it seems to be real. It's not to be logically understood because it's real and simultaneously unreal.

No Abiding Reality | The Ajata Project https://share.google/lPzt0g8rrQA0SdB2r

I knew repeating over and over would eventually reap benefits 🤣

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It certainly helps to have a concensus on what enlightenment means.

Check out this video, "tony parsons what is awakening" https://share.google/ogkilCQuPRXR6tuYN

The matrix is living with a guidance system of reality Liberation is recognizing thats bs 🤑

But at least I'm not talking about chickens and eggs 😋

All thats being said is if that Breakingthewall body dies, it's the end of all experience permanently. Its conscious awareness doesn't switch to being another body or being outside the body or anything like that. The physical body/mind is what upholds that "sense of being". So once the body dies, its simultaneously the end of the Breakingthewall character and its complete "sense of being". That awareness will be completely gone. It's already not there but even the illusion of being there will end. There won't even be the awareness of ever once existing. A total lights out infinitly

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