VeganAwake

Illusions (ego/self) can't die because they were never real from the start. Nobody becomes enlightened. Enlightenment is a recognition for nobody

Its appearing on fleeting dead/empty eyes. Nobody is experiencing, there isn't an experiencer. As soon as something seems to occur, it's gone. This moment gone, this moment gone, this moment gone.........Yes, there seems to be an observer either inside or outside the body, but look very very closely. It's emptiness appearing as an observer. Yes, it always appears to be Now, but nobody is experiencing Now. Nobody is living the Now. Keep looking for "you". What is it? What does "you" actually consist of? These human bodies are empty. Just like animals. No self no soul no spirit nothing. No real meaning or purpose to anything. No creator. No goal to attain or knowledge that needs grasping. "There is only what seems to be happening" - Jim Newman

The real trippy part is this is already the case, it just doesn't feel that way.😳

Urges can still arise, the difference is they aren't arising in someone or for someone, it's no longer personal. The experience of being better or worse off due to circumstance ends. In this case, it's clearly recognized, there isn't an individual that will be better or worse off, whether or not masturbation occurs!

It's identification tactics/shape shifting, is under rated.

The experience of being the body is self illusion. The experience of being the mind is self illusion. The experience of being the ego is self illusion. The experience of being everything is self illusion. The experience of being nothing is self illusion. The belief of being what's left, when everything else is gone, is self illusion.

The freedom lies in recognizing there isn't a "you" suffering in the first place. Then whatever happens, just happens, and that which judges these happenings as good or bad ends.

Yup, and conceptual thoughts only SEEM to shape and describe it. But it's always only what it is, regardless of thoughts and concepts about it.

It's incredibly shocking just how rarely this "self illusion" is seen through. It's endlessly needy, never becomes satisfied and uses a ridiculous amount of energy to uphold. The body will literally be flopping on the ground, tapping out, and it's like: "seek seek seek" "more more more" "answers around the next corner, I can feel it" ♻️ The most stubborn is when it truly believes it already knows (spiritual ego)..........it's a real bitch to see through! The NSE...........Narcissistic Spiritual Ego 🤣

Agreed

Hey then what was all that "ignorance is bliss" crap?

What if that which believes it's in a physical body and requires having an ego, is the ego?

Exactly, there isn't an owner and that so-called knowledgeable "self" which believes it's part of a process unfolding, is a thought based illusion. It doesn't actually know anything because its not actually real. It is simply creating a circular logic "self" affirming dream story about the apparent functioning of reality, and then spins in circles like a hamster on its wheel ♻️ until the physical body dies......end of story! Throughout it's entire spiritually conditioned exploration of reality, it's been nothing but concept after concept placed overtop of reality until one concept seemed to be convincing enough to stick with and turn into a permanent belief system. This belief system actually has nothing important to do with reality. It's a tiny part of reality like a grain of sand, but it's not all of reality or anything silly like that! It's really just a bundle of thoughts, so a grain of sand is actually more real. This belief could be plucked entirely out of existence, and reality would continue to function as normal.