samedm9

Well a “they” definitely interfered with my brother and I. So, i don’t need any secret information to be disclosed to me, being a first hand Witness. You seem rather attached to figures and markers of apparent authority, as if your exposure to such people and ranks has given you Illumination in this topic ... a definitive understanding of what is the case. Sure you can speak to the assistant coach, build a solid relationship with him, get some insights into what is being discussed at the management level. But, that means nothing in terms of truly knowing what the owner is planning. As before, it is possible to have “access” to technology, but yet have no idea how to use it to its full potential. Perhaps even, the “alien” technology we may have “access” to, has anti-destructive fail-safes inbuilt. Inhibiting any potential for such uses.... Can respect your opinions, but You seem relatively eager to jet off and avoid thinking outside the box here. Perhaps your positions of belief about this topic aren’t as solid as you make them appear... UFOs definitely exist. The question of wether “earthlings” have access to such things, is one that, I don’t feel anyone here has the liberty to suggest having a definitive answer to.

@Mystica45 Clearly you don’t know love, in all of it’s utter brutality. don’t worry... you will get what you are after, god will clip you over the ear eventually... thus you will humbled. The degree to which you are blind at the moment is troll like. Do more psychedelics at a high dose. The best thing that could happen, is that you die. And the worst, you comeback down and claim its merely a subjective hallucination of the mind.

@Nobody_Here The government is that compartmentalised. There’s absolutely no way you’ve been let in on the deepest secrets of technological possibility. I’ve seen a UFO, that was the typical “saucer” shape, And I am very strongly Opposed to attributing what I witnessed to Experimental, classified government craft. How would you know for sure, that aspects of any government, don’t have access to any Extraterrestrial technology. Isn’t it a possibility that they in fact do, but, are simply unable, based on lack of enough critical understanding, to harness and utilise this tech in a way that would enable the full scope of its power/potential to be realised... Imagine dropping an iPhone into a time of one of the earliest civilisations or to a caveman for that matter. Sure they would Be able to access the camera, maybe open settings and change some minor functions... but they simply would not have the technological infrastructure and systems required to make use of 90% of the iphones tech. It would be rather useless in terms of functioning as intended. Isn’t it a possibility that it may be similarly the case, in terms of our (modern humans) access to such further advanced technology?That it may indeed capable of things such as teleportation.. yet ..we simply cannot use it properly, therefore surely not well enough for mass destruction purposes. Perhaps were liken to a caveman fucking with an iPhone, in terms of understanding what may have been given to us... just theorising.

@carlowillo Id like to here the “long no” as well. UFOs are real fellas. Can’t stress it enough. My brother and i have seen many, one particularly, real close, fly right over my head 30-40m up. Spinning, lights, noise, typical saucer shape.... entered into our sky with a warning of two flashes in quick succession.... @John Doe how can you claim so valiantly That Bob is merely a charlatan, do you know something about Bob that we don’t... can you read minds...are you a body language reading genius? How do you come to this conclusion given the material at hand...not including evidence of a degree.

@Metahuman they’re here dude. And it’s all your mind... so fucking cool... The “final frontier“, is so damn close. No conspiracy here, only more conscious version/s of yourself attempting to have communion, make the first move.

Indeed. Though, Lazar claims, with a degree of apparent impartiality(IMO), to have been involved in something that would’ve garnered, perhaps the closest physical interaction with a “UFO” of any person willing and able to speak publicly about it. Lazars edvience is anecdotal. As with my experience. i guess unless you truely directly experience such a phenomena there will Always be doubt, understandably. So I ask you to take my word, but I wholly understand it means nothing really, in terms of swaying your belief.

@samedm9 All Good my friend. Though, I wouldn’t personally get involved making meta-points in topics I am not well versed in... Also, I never said it is impossible that he may be lying. It’s very possible, though, I feel, an intuitive sense of genuine impartiality in his presentation, but This feeling is not at all immune to having been deceived. Bob has, to date, been the most outspoken and comprehensive proponent, on the frontier of this topic. it’s expected that mannny people will play the “debunker” when coming to terms with the degree of Potentially paradigm destroying information he has come out with. I feel in the near future, interest in the existence of UFOs is to become far Less of a polarised topic, mounting evidence and anecdotes of witnesses will become increasingly difficult to simply write off as hopeful speculation. Hell, even the pentagon admits they’ve seen phenomena that is beyond their ability to explain, in terms of known aircraft manoeuvrability. i suggest you actually watch some of bobs material, joe Rogan podcast.. with an open mind. if he’s lying it’s one of the best acts you’ll ever see. In all seriousness, forget Bob, saucer like craft exist 100% based on my personal experience. ✌️?

@Roy pffffft. Matey. Of course I am skeptical of Bob, But, I’m not stupid enough to simply write him off as a con man for reasons of “its too good or big to be true”... i was not writing in a surprised tone in that post your referring to. Having actually witness a disc “UFO” (whatever the fuck it’s origins may be gov or extra terrestrial) myself, I am, by default, way more openminded about Bobs supposed history in this area than most people, probably. Make sure your skepticism points back at itself at some point, and you consider that bob is either 100% legitimate or he is a part of a larger initiative to bring To masses, the fact that these types of craft really do have a physical existence in the world. I’m failing to see how Bob or anyone for that matter, would and could (even) have gone through such effort, risk, public shame... to perpetuate a lie over 30 years with such mental fortitude and unshakable consistency, with little to no indicative body language that would suggest to the gut, that he is lying?? And if it’s a fact that he is bullshitting you are suggesting..All for what? do you really think anyone would create a false story of this nature, for fun, pleasure, financial gain...to simply watch people be fooled? i have not seen him Express joy... smile even once when he is discussing and making discernments when questioned about his interactions with the supposed craft. So for mine personally, Having Intimately bared witness to a craft of the nature bob describes, I am open to his claims about what he had interacted with. And don’t see how this could be an “out and out” con. At most, i feel it may be a ploy from a higher org, using the “far out” story, of a simpleton “lucky to be employed” guy (Bob lazar), revealing his anecdotal experiences to a rather receptive audience ( this would work to get a few open minded people to start questioning further, as oppose to shocking the mass population with a direct announcement by a more “credible”, perhaps government figure, making an announcement, that reveals the exact same thing as Bob. I mean, If the gov wanted to covertly announce the existence of UFOs, Doing it through this Bob lazar story would’ve been perfect IMO. Credible enough to get at least 50% of people to, at the very least, open their mind. Whilst maintaining enough doubt to keep those whose Paradigms are more ridged, and may be prone to shock, from going down the rabbit hole... this is just a theory. ? but who cares about bob anyway. Ive seen one, as dead on as a hammer. Take my word my friend, I can’t make any money like Lazar.

@John Doe ok, interesting point of view. So he lies for 30 years...why and to what benefit? For personal gain? or is he some crazed statist who simply wants to fool people? why would one man risk such public Humiliation for nothing but gags... ? what does he have to gain?

Watch the small segment from 5:26 to 5:35. Notice bill gates smirking uncontrollably and getting all giddy when fareed mentions the viruses effect on the economy and the fact that it’ll never be the same....take a long time to recover. How is that a moment where it is appropriate to smile ? Am I seeing things or does it look like he is loving this ? Is this playing into an agenda he is fronting ? Gates seems to have propped up as this new emperor type figure on all things vaccines, as if a household name like him could never lie to the masses. Would I trust a vaccine that is supported and proposed by a man presenting in such a giddy manner, despite the current state of society, my gut is screaming hell no. i mean, his body language/voice is so poor, he’s like a sloth. I see no actual concern for humanity in his eyes at all, right?... only actual excitement about his role with vaccines..

I’ve seen a UFO with100% certainty, as I Have stated in a previous post... So to me it doesn’t matter if bobs Story is real or not.... However, I feel bob is either an agent and in on exposing them to the public, through some secret compartmentalised gov operation....And his Story about being Employed to do research on craft is made up... Or, and most likely, he really is alone in the exposing of information Based on his employment at the S2 base, and is telling us the truth about what he witnessed and worked on. in this case I personally don’t see any reason why he or a group that he speaks for would run such a long winded and well thought out lie. What would be the purpose of perpetuating such a lie ? And are the personal risks and attacks for being involved worth it ? Like you said, it’s been a long time since he first came out, yet, he has seemed very stable and precise in all of his recounts to date. so to summarise I would say that if he is not lying... there you go..UFOs? And if he is lying... he’s probably just the front man and mouth piece for a more organised group that wants to expose UFOs . UFOs either way....?

@kag101 Thanks mate. However, this was no hallucination. Unless you would would also call a helicopter flying low overhead a mere “hallucination”, then yes it would be a hallucination. I hope you understood, I saw this thing as close and intimately as you would see any helicopter flying low. Very very physical. not to mention, there are two of us that saw this thing exactly as I describe. How could the two of us, completely sober, have had precisely than same hallucination, detail for detail.

@DefinitelyNotARobot thanks for sharing that man. It is very confusing. But it is a very liberating feeling to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, in my experience, that there is the presence of a saucer like craft within our world (aliens or not). An extremely small number of us seem to bare witness to such phenomena, which makes it very hard to make connections, draw consistent conclusions and develop any sort of solid consensus about the nature of what we witness. All of the recounts of witnesses are very subjective and unique. There seems to be a lack of consistency in what we claim we see; differences in craft shape, movements of the craft, presence of sound... I guess the only consist factor, is that what we see is completely unexplainable to us at this point in human history. It’s also the case that we are rather isolated with our experiences, as personal anecdotes of such a mysterious things are not easily consumed, not to mention the fact that to most people, UFOs and everything that goes along with them, is merely sci-fi. But I do think that people as a whole, are definitely become more open minded about UFOs.

@kag101 At the time of witnessing this craft, both he and I had been completely sober for about a month or two. We have taken psychedelics and weed in the past, but to me, substance had nothing to do with this.