JayG84

I know it's hard to see it right now, but the goal of this work is to someday come to the realization that whatever limits you see in yourself is what creates the limits on the Love you'll be able to experience in your life. There is an unlimited amount of Love you can experience in your life, but you have to surrender those limits one by one, not forcefully, but just by noticing them, and realizing that they are not who you ultimately are. If your "story" is that you are lonely, apathetic, depressed, worthless, traumatized, etc etc. Then you will project those things on the world and feel as if you need to find someone that will deal with them, and be willing to stay, and not be afraid of it. These are limiting beliefs that you have created in order to protect yourself. they are not actually true. There are a lot of people that will love you despite you feeling the way you do about yourself. But if you limit your love for yourself, you will always look at the love they're trying to give you through that lens. I don't know you man, but I love you. I mean that. I completely accept you for who you are. Right now. There are no conditions. I don't care what you have done in your life. I love you because we are One. You are me and I am you and I love you. But notice the feelings that are coming up inside of you right now, and the thoughts that are popping in your head, the denial, the "eye-rolling", the excuses for why "that's impossible", the brushing it off as just some guy trying to sound "peace and lovey" haha. All of it. Notice all of that, and why you can't just accept it. I love you. You'll laugh. But I love you man. How do you think you'll be able to tell if you find someone who truely loves you if you can't accept it from a randon guy on the internet. ? Investigate these limits further, question them to the fullest extent, ask yourself if they are actual and real. Is this truely who you are deep down? You know that's not who you are, because you just said: Who is the witness of all these things? Who is noticing that you're lonely, apathetic, depressed, etc. Could you say your Authentic Self is witnessing it? The Self that you would be if you didn't have all these limits? Well that tells you that the things that it's witnessing are not real are they? I can understand completely how you're feeling because I've been there, and therefore I felt the need to write to you. The Universe accepts you for exactly who you are in this moment. In fact, you are the Universe. When you realize that, all the things that you think control YOU won't matter anymore. ? Peace dude ❤️

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@freeman194673 You can't explain anything outside of the chart with anything inside the chart. Everything in the chart is a construction of Consciousness itself. Including the idea of a seperate You.

Pain and Injustice, feelings and nerves, lives and functions, are all relative. God is Absolute. Yes. Absolute Love.

Do you think you're God? If not, than God isn't who you think it is. ?

Great post man. To live consciously is realizing that we can choose to assign meaning to the meaninglessness. It's all good and all beautiful. Pick the parts you want to build your own reality out of. ?

What if God said, "Don't worry, your suffering will help the world realize one day that we should Love and respect all races as our own, all these lines that divide us are imaginary, and you're suffering will be used as an example to shine a light to the path to enlightenment for the rest of eternity" Would that be an act of Love? Would the slave accept himself as a teacher if he could see the whole perspective?

To keep with the infinite web analogy. Any act which expands or contracts of the holes of the web are Love ultimately. (even selfishness is a low conscious form of love for the survival of the ego). But think of how killing and stealing will affect the overall web. That selfish act which expands "your" hole will contract others, expand others, and even collapse some. I don't want to use Hitler as an example, but it's the easiest to go to so here we go. ? Hitler's acts were done out of his love for a limited part of his reality. His people, his country, his race, his own self survival. So you can say that he acted out of love, a very limited form of love. But his actions made huge changes in the overall web of reality that we still see today, and will see throughout our lifetimes. Most people will only see the spread of hate that he started (which is just passing on the torch of limited love for the self) which is the expansion of a lot of peoples webs who agreed with him. But by far the biggest effect of what he did was expand the consciousness of the entire world to recognize that what he did was wrong and selfish and that all races and ethnicities should be accepted equally. In other words, he made most the world realize that love and acceptance is the path towards progress and ultimately Enlightenment. That's why when we talk from the Absolute perspective, everything = Love. But from the relative perspective, the way that you expand or contract the hole (whole) of your experience matters a great deal.

Yep, for sure. "We" is a relative way to say that it's all the Collective Oneness. Fragmented but whole at the same time. ??

?? Totally. I just meant "Die" in the relative sense, as in, if you get hit by a truck, your experience of this physical reality will change. A better way to say it probably is, you will realize that you're infinite ?

@Vercingetorix

Love is acceptance. So if you show the world complete acceptance just the way that is by understanding it, but realize that our ultimate goal is to help everyone raise their level of consciousness. Like a child that is learning how to read, you accept the child where they're at in their development but you also give them the tools and guide them lovingly to figure it out for themselves. Every action you take or path you wish to choose should come from this perspective of compassion, acceptance, and guidance. ?

Consciousness is a web of existence. We are the holes in that web (experience). The game we are playing is to collapse all the holes in the web for the web to be whole again (which it always has been in a way). Acts of Love collapse the holes, Selfishness (Fear) expand those holes. The expansion and collapsing of those holes affect every other hole (Karma). All we can do is help collaspe the web one hole at a time with Love. The rest will take care of itself. ?

Hey guys. I was just messing around in a wordprocesser this morning trying to organize my thoughts about the path I'm taking to the realization of consciousness. I wanted to express it in a visual way and drew this. It's kind of a ruff draft, I'm still trying to organize and add more levels to it, but I thought I would share it with you and get your input. Each circle has a purpose to further question the next level of the chart. The construction flow goes inside out and the deconstruction goes outside in. Each word in the chart has to be questioned and realized. I built it going inside out, but the realizations probably came to me in the opposite direction. You can't explain anything on the outside of the circle without going more inside. But to explain ALL of it you have to go outside of the circle but there's nothing left to explain it with. Let me know if you have anything to add to it, or any questions about it. ? Thanks, Jay ?

Thanks! Yeah, It's definitely a work in development. It sort of just maps my progress so far through my self-inquiry work. I'm sure it could be a lot bigger of a chart if I integrated more dualities, but I'll probably just use it as a quick perspective check when I need it. ? Thanks man! Yeah the middle of the chart is sort of the last stage where I realized that symbols and language have to be deconstructed also and that ultimately, you can't explain anything in the chart with anything else in the chart. Outside of the chart, there's only Consciousness and Love which explains itself. Good idea with applying it to different cultures. I'm sure there's an infinite amount of ways that this chart could be changed to reflect each individuals personal journey. This is just the way it made sense in my mind. ?

I made a prettier version. ?

@justfortoday Thanks man ?

It may seem obvious to some of you, and it took a long time for me to truely grasp this, but I just came to the realization last night that everything that I have ever learned in my life can be deconstructed to Zero or Infinity, Nothing or Everything, Meaningless or Meaningful, Formlessness or Formed, God or The Devil. And ultimately, they are the same thing. Consciousness. The blank canvas of Nothingness that all distinctions (Everythingness) are made. All branches of knowledge points to this when you break it down to what is actual, and not ideas about something. There is a "consensus" out there to what the Truth is. It's just that no one wants to take that last step of saying "WE" are "IT" too. All Mathematics breaks down at zero and infinity All Science breaks down at Nothing or Everything, begininnings and endings, infinitely small or infinitely large, everywhere and nowhere. All of Philosophy points to this. Nietzsche, Descarte, Derrida, Heidegger, Kant. All their theories broke down when they deconstructed far enough. Religion, Psychology, Laws, Politics, Art, etc etc etc. It all breaks down. All of it is assigning meaning to the meaningless, making distinctions in something that's distinctionless. I used to think of it as only the Ego being false. But the Ego is ALL the distinctions we make in Reality. The Limits we place in the Limitless!

Are there any Movies, Shows, or Novels that use non-duality to explain how Reality actually is to people? Sort of like taking Leo's videos and making a story fit around it. Kind of like Inception does, but more In line with non-dual concepts?

I don't know what Awakening is supposed to feel like. I've never had an "Awakening" experience the way that I think it might feel like. Like waking up from a dream or something. I understand that reality is a dream though, intuitively. But do you actually see the "substance" of consciousness when you awaken? I think I'm pretty close to fully understanding the reality that I live in on an "Intuitive" level. I have done so much self-inquiry that I'm conscious of what my ego is doing almost all the time. I recognize that my thoughts, perceptions, and beliefs are imaginary, and there is no serperation between anything. I accept reality exactly how it is and I think that it's perfect and beautiful, and I try to Love every facet of it. Is this close to what they call Enlightenment? Is there a definite "barrier" that you cross when you "Awaken"? Do you go anywhere? Like waking up from the Matrix or something? Does it "Look" different? Or is Enlightenment just the knowledge of Being that brings you peace? Is the intuitive knowledge that you are ONE and that the self is an illusion good enough?

I do indeed mean Truth. I'm not sure how I know what Truth is...questioning...deconstruction of everything else that could possibly be and seeing that everything is a distinction from the Truth...wrestling with fear and anxiety my whole life and "knowing" that there is a "self" deeper down that's free of all that. Not sure. But I feel a pull to it, to wake up, to 'know' my higher self. Interesting, what do you mean by in front of your ego? I've always thought of the ego as a mask that I put on my True Self. So in essence, my true self would be behind it. Put that's all conceptual thinking stuff. Maybe we just have different perspectives of it.

@Lenny Thanks a lot for the detailed response man. It really put things in perspective. ? In some ways I think that my consciousness has shifted a lot in the past 5 years or so. My ego is definitely less of a problem in my life, I've learned to live with and accept who I am, and who others are, and try to practice no judgements and unconditional love. I'm generally more aware of my thoughts which help a lot with day to day living. But I have learned that I do still hold on to a lot of concepts and beliefs that limit my potential to become my highest self. And I'm working day to day to recognize the sneaky ways it holds me back. This forum is a helpful tool for knowledge, and a sense of belonging. But ultimately, I'm realizing that I'm looking for an "Ah-Ha" moment here, where someone is going to say something that makes my "brain" click, and I'll wake up and "know" that I'm awakened. I need to stop thinking this way, or anyway about it. The self-inquiry that I'm doing won't lead me anywhere because I keep trying to conceptualize and then deconstruct those concepts. I need to go past the deconstruction phase, but I think I'm too afraid to see what's on the other side of that. Like many have said, by asking all these questions, I'm standing on the river bank wanting to jump in and asking all of you how cold the water is, how deep it is, how many fish there are in there, where does this river go to...etc. I'm afraid that this will bring me somewhere I regret going. I still hold on to reality as a safety switch. If it gets too real, and can always question if Awakening is even "a thing" or "do I even need to go that far" or "this is good enough"....but all of that is just fear of the unknown and my ego kicking at screaming about it. At some point I just need to let go, at some point I hope I'll be ready. (Even though I know I'll never be ready) haha. Thanks again ??

To the people here who have awakened: Do you see reality as sort of a Sci-fi dream or a virtual world that you're experiencing while you know that this isn't what reality actually is? If any of you watch Rick and Morty. Does it feel like you're Rick who never takes this world seriously because he knows there are infinite worlds and possiblilities to explore, and everyone else is oblivious to it? Is awakening as mind-blowing as you would think going through a wormhole like the end of Interstellar would feel like? I just want to hear what the experience is like from a Sci-Fi perspective (even though Sci-Fi is a construct in our illusionary reality) lol

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. If God is truely unlimited and infinite, then our Sci-Fi stories are just basic, rational, little limited imaginations that people can come up with. I love Sci-Fi, and it can still be mind-blowing to someone who's never seen infinite possibilities before, but I couldn't imagine what someone could create that really captured to essence of awakening. But I guess then they would have to "dumb" it down to fit into our reality, which is pretty much what we're doing on this forum, trying to express the unexpressable. lol Does it feel like the only reason we are limited and can't do some of this Sci-Fi stuff in real life just that our collective consciousness doesn't believe that we can. And the "future" is truly unlimited by what we could come up with. Like the laws of physics could start breaking down if we all get on the same page about it?

Right on. ??