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@Michael569 antigenic substances in plants arent irrelevant, and no Dr. Gundry isnt the only one who is raising this issue, there are countless respected researchers saying the same look up Nora Gedgaudes for example. Are you denying the existence of oxalates, salicylates, lectins etc and the connection with LPS? Beta carotene content is irrelevant if your like the many people with certain gene polymorphisms that can't do squat with beta carotene, in those cases it's just another thing to process and eliminate. TBH vitamin D isnt the most relevant to my point bc you can get it from the sun true, but it's importance cannot be overstated, likely why we have that built in redunddancy to get it from food or sun. But in a northern latitude it would have been necessary to get adequate amounts from animal foods. especially since we would have been clothed to keep warm. Again in the skins of animals lol. Isn't it odd that all humans absolutly NEED b12 to avoid permanent brain damage and we dont NEED any of the phytochemicals, antioxidants polyphenols found in plants to be totally healthy and survive generationally? Like at all... What's really not debatable is the non-necessity of plants and the necessity of meat in a context where supplements arent available. We didnt evolve to need supplements did we? Practically all studies showing benefits from plant compounds are isolating a few variables, noticing certain narrow metrics improving and ignoring potential side affects. Exactly like all drugs and medicines. It doesnt make sense that the human organism would require any of these random xenohormetic compounds. It's certainly true that some human genetic phenotypes might make those nutrient conversions quite well and have very robust diverse microbiomes, these are the people who seem to be fine with vegan diets but this is the exception. What i believe to be the case is that most people's microbiomes have been decimated given antibiotics glyphosate oversanitation and also dont have the genetic capacity to derive significant nutrition from plant foods, if these individuals try to be vegan it will obviously not work out well for them. it's not so much that meat cures enzymatic or gut dysfunction it's that not eating potentially harmful compounds prevents the insults in the first place. ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. i also couldnt disagree with this statement more "Our pre-palaeolithic bodies are not adapted to be consuming animals several times a day." The preponderance of evidence points to the fact that we were only able to evolve big brains because we were able to procure enough calories in an efficient way i.e hunting big game, ever heard of the meat-loop? We literally drove the wooly mammoths to extinctioin, you dont think we were gorging on meat everyday??? Native americans drove herds of bison off cliffs by the thousands... and got plenty of vitamin C by passing around the raw liver to every man after a kill. There is also evidence that average brain volume has decreased since the agricultural revolution, when we stopped eating so much meat. Remember civilization is the master disease. THere's a reason we have an archetypical image of the toothless crazy dicrepid peasant farmer from medieval europe, they were lucky if they got meat once a week. oh and you forgot to debunk me on omega 3's too which coincidentally have antioxidant activity without any associated toxicity from xenohormetic compounds found in plants which are actually classified as oxidants, the antioxidant response is done in via endogenous glutathione upregulation... something you can easily trigger via exercise, cold heat exposure, hypoxia or fasting without need for plants. I really think the insulin resistance thing doesnt get enough attention though, this is critical for bridging the gap on this debate. The short term improvements with regard to insulin resistance make people very dogmatic about veganism, but it seems to be a mirage when you weigh all the other facts.

i think the confusion centers around the fact that low fat plant based diets successfully reverse insulin resistance and so do high fat low carb ketogenic diets. The problem is consuming too much energy in the form of simultaneous intake of fats and carbs. This causes fat cells to become insulin resistant and to signal the rest of the body to do so as well. The key difference between the two approaches is that plant based diets are not nutritionally complete in teh long term. They dont contain adequate, vitamins A, D, K2 or b12 nevermind an optimal ratio of amino acids or fatty acids. They also tend to be antigenic and drive inflammation due to various irritant compounds found in plant foods. People go vegan and heal their insulin resistance in much the same way they would if they were fasting, but you cant starve yourself forever and expect to be healthy.

@Michael569when it comes to heart disease saturated fat intake is mostly irrelevant. It's baseline inflammation and endothelial damage that's the problem, cholesterol comes to the site of the damage to heal things. If you were an alien in a spaceship studying car crashes and always saw ambulances and police cars wherever there were car crashes you might think ambulances and police cars caused car crashes but oh how wrong you'd be. The humans who exist today evolved in a situation with very little fruit and vegetable material in our diets, every plant food you see in the grocery store has been bred into existence in recent history since the last ice age, which was the most significant selective pressure on our species. So to say that stripping the diet of these foods is peculiar, is peculiar. What's really peculiar is to eat them.

ketogenic diet. you will always have access to body fat because of low insulin and therefore will never experience an interruption in your energy. Babies are in ketosis until they stop breastfeeding by the way.

liver and onions is a classic dish. Pork liver in my experience has been the thing i have noticed the most dramatic effeect on my physiology from. This might sound weird but pigs have a very similar physiology to humans and I think because of this pork liver imparts unique benefits. Yes i'm aware that if you extrapolate this logic cannabalism all of a sudden becomes an attractive option but let's just ignore that for now. The reason you notice benefits is likely that you dont get anywhere near as much retinol (real vitamin A) from any other food. Many people cannot convert beta carotene found in carrots to the usable form of retinol so they are starved for the nutrient until they eat some liver and all of a sudden feel much better.

@Leo Gurawell i'll consider myself schooled then. I do recall going through a phase where i was getting VERY absorbed into my direct experience to the point it was causing some problems self-survival speaking. I quickly stopped bc it was disorienting to not engage in all the conceptual activity. I started to doubt the exactly part, and gave up on it. But I knew intuitively that i was on to something with it, thanks for confirming that. "You don't perceive either." good point

@Leo Gura This idea imbues my eyelids with supernatural ability to destroy the world. Empirically, in my experience this is obviously the case, but it smacks of the childish notion that if I close my eyes the boogey man goes away. To that you could say well of course there's the boogey mans perception to consider and that's why the world continues to exist independent of your perception. But If i close my eyes an asteroid can still bonk me on the head though and i assume the asteroid doesnt perceive. Isnt there something prior to eyes? Arent eyes a sort of technology that exists because there is something to see in the first place? Should I be placing such importance on the visual rendering? Couldnt there be more reality than my human interpretation. I get that things are unknowable outside of my perception but cant we make a distinction between perception and awareness?

@Leo Gura or anyone else who's studied with Peter Ralston I'd love to get some input on this. It's discontinuous with the previous thread but it's certainly relevant to his teachings. According to him all emotions are voluntarily generated not automatic responses such as heartbeat etc. and yet if you carefully observe your consciousness it seems there's no such thing as free will. There is an interesting conflict/strange loop here, let me give a personal example. I have fear of commitment and marriage, so the excuse that arises (to avoid commitment and continue to survive my current unmarried self) is that i'm a black hole, that I'm misleading people by participating in normal life with them giving them the false impression that i'm a normal decent person worthy of a happy life that includes others. So that tactic/emotion seems to arise out of nowhere, by no will of mine and yet according to Peter I'm the one who caused it to happen and if I simply use my consciousness I can generate a new disposition, also out of nowhere. So this begs the question, was that initial thought totally arbitrary or in fact grounded in some truth corresponding to reality? If it was arbitrary why would it show up in the first place? Maybe the answer is that when he is saying YOU generated it voluntarily he is talking about the true Self, which i suppose he must be because that's the only one in existence. That seems to reconcile the conflict but I'm just not sure what he meant exactly by YOU can generate emotions at will. I think this is something very important to clear up. This is because I find myself utilizing this principle very often in my life, noticing my emotions and changing them at will BUT there's something eery about it in that I feel I could be deluding myself by tampering with the autonomous wiring. Mustn't there be a very good reason why I'm supposedly generating these emotions in the first place??? I sense a growing arrogance in me thinking that my conscious mind has access to more and better data to make decisions than my subconscious does. At least in the context of survival.

I seem to have gotten some mild HPPD (hallucinogen persisting perception disorder) from shrooms and lsd. Mainly lsd, and sure enough lsd is more visually active than anything. I'm devastated because I was getting so much out of psychedelics and really want to go deeper with them but it's been too disconcerting to do that now in light of the fact that it feels like im always on low dose shrooms visually speaking. I read somewhere that 5 meo is much less visually active so Im hoping that it wont be a problem, does anyone know anything about this? Also im very sensitive to drugs and substances in general so im thinking about microdosing 5 meo just to gently turn the consciousness dial, does this work? or is kinda like a breakthrough or nothing?

As an 11 year old I remember sitting in the front yard picking at the grass and realizing that the reason the height of the grass was what it was, was utterly interconnected with everything else and that all of those parameters that dictated the height of the grass were totally arbitrary as if dreamed up by some decision making brilliant consciousness. Meanwhile I was convinced that religion was bullshit to the core lol

I'm more interested in the intersection between non-duality and the relative domain and how that can be leveraged to live life more effectively. I'd like to see Leo double down on things like that. For me at least his videos have been enough to get non-duality, I just want to know how to apply these things in the human world and who better to teach that than Leo?

I suspect that ringing is a side effect of psychedelics.

love this exercise, I found myself going down a similar line inquiry just the other day and was really getting some traction with it.

Im extremely chemically sensitive relative to other people i've found and for me microdosing armodafinil definitely has effects and in fact is the only way i can handle armodafinil. I tried a microdose of shrooms along with a microdose of armodafinil and gave myself a bad headache. Im quite certain it was caused by the combo because it was a weird headache unlike any ive felt before. didnt kill me and might work for you though so why not try it? You might see some good results, I really thought it would be a great combo. In my case it wasnt.

So I can see this affecting me negatively in the future which is why i'm posting about it here hoping to get some opinions from people. anyway... I've always been seemingly unable to suppress my curiosity, no matter what if there's something to be known I feel compelled to know it. I've never been one to say something like "dont tell me that" or "eww gross, dont show me that". I always want more knowledge no matter what. So I've found various telegram and wechat groups that share nothing but graphic videos, truly disgusting and disturbing things. In most cases depicting massive suffering in one form or another. surveilance footage of murders, fights or horrible accidents, self mutilations, people with severe mental illnesses or disfigurements etc. The sheer volume of videos is shocking as well, it's seemingly endless. So here's the practice, I watch these videos and remain conscious that what I am seeing is me. That I am all there is in existence such that I deeply identify with those depicted in the videos. I try my best to face what they are facing and to deeply know that consciousness is living through these realities. It's not a sick preoccupation just an acknowledgement of what is occuring within consciousness. I find it to be a surprisingly very powerful practice but I dont know if I can recomend it to anyone, it can be rather destabilizing. not sure what the consequences of this are and i'd love some input.

@WHO IS I suspect what he meant was less personal and more of a PSA cautioning people not to descend into zen-devilry. The average person reading your comment might be misled though you are technically correct. This is grown up stuff, there's a reason spiritual teachings have been demonized throughout the ages, it's much better for the functioning of society if unconscious devils are scared shitless by the belief that there is such a thing as good/evil, right/wrong.

@Average Investor It's only high risk if you abuse it, options are leverage the difference is your risk is capped at the premium you pay for the option unlike using margin or true leverage where you risk your whole account being liquidated if the trade moves against you. Options are contracts to buy shares of a security at a certain price and date in the future that act like insurance policies. For example if you are an oil mining company and you have $100 million invested in a site with heavy equipment and years of expense and overhead you can set aside $1 million to bet that the price of oil will crash before next year. If it does, that option will be worth 100 million, if it doesnt you lose that million but your operation was profitable anyway so you chalk it up to insurance that you didnt end up using.

it certainly hasn't desensitized me, if anything it's made me more compassionate and grateful. we are in a unique time in that we have access to orders magnitude more information than people did when they ventured but a few miles from where they were born during their lifetimes. This affords us more exposure to what exists within reality, perhaps a double edged sword. @Leo Gura I guess what you mean by garbage is self explanatory, but I'm still trying to figure out what you mean when you say the mind will "produce garbage". Specifically why should I refrain from filling my mind with "garbage"? Isn't part of spiritual strength being able to face any of the content of consciousness without recoiling from it? It doesnt bring me any glee the way it might some people, I feel like im honoring reality in some way by accepting what is possible within consciousness.

definitely an embodiment of yellow, you'll notice plenty of turquoise as well the more familiar you get with them. They make a wonderful distinction between finite and infinite games in relation to economics. I'd like to see their communication style deconstructed and taught to children from an early age

Not my go to practice but it is true that the horror and disappointment aspect of life has been a driving force on the road to awakening for me and im guessing many others too. You make an inference and presume to know what I am and am not conscious of.

keep in mind robinhood is totally free, no need to raid your ira, with options even a position of few hundred dollars can have massive upside. risk is capped at what you paid for the position. It's a really neat little game. tomorrow I'll be buying puts on SPY (the s&p 500 index) and calls on uvxy. my sell price targets will be 3-400% of what i paid. There is also a company called Gilead Sciences that has a very effective treatement for the coronavirus that I am holding calls on that im pretty excited about, ticker symbol is GILD. call options are a bet the underlying stock will rise, put options are a bet that it will fall.

the other neat thing about daytrading is that you arent roped into a long term thing, you can pick it up and drop on a whim and for appealing for a non-commital type like me haha. every single day there are opportunities in the market to make 100's of percent gains

@molosku i'm beyond the belief stage, I am conscious that it is myself already but my programming as a human for survival doesnt allow me to rest in non-dual awareness constantly, which is the case for most everyone hence the necessity of practices, not saying it's the be all end all obviously but it has been useful. Perhaps SDS would be useful in a similar way. What im doing is unique in that im not gonna go wander out into traffic myself, but I can watch it and use it as fuel for consciousness and contemplation. @Meta-Man interesting stuff I had no idea, looks like there's nothing new under the sun hahah

apparently one of the most effective immune system enhancers out there is megadoses of vitamin D, this is a video of a well known heart surgeon saying to take 150,000 IU per day over a 3 day period if you get sick with coronavirus. No that isn't a typo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tRBTXyMd7U

it's made me a safer driver that's for sure!