Sucuk Ekmek
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Sucuk Ekmek replied to Someone here's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
According to Plato, the heaviest penalty for declining to rule is to be ruled by someone inferior to yourself. -
Okay I am out of logic. We're still continuing technical continuum. We even made an atom bomb on the way and threw it on bunch of civilians. If scientists had ''logic'' they would not create that thing. It was just so out of their control. If you are doing things like these there might be something wrong about your or my society at it's core.
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It's founded almost 2500 years ago in Athens. This is relatively late actually. This sounds good, but all societies eventually just collapse at some point and start all over again as childs. It's the nature of tragedy.
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Sucuk Ekmek replied to Leo Gura's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
wow that's a 6600 @00:24 “This is the single greatest phone ever made. Hold on a second, I’m emailing this video to myself.” Ohh man tech is such a weird thing... -
Never heard such a thing as spiritual career. I think the word ''career'' and ''spirituality'' doesn't fit or blend together. In todays standarts the idea of career stands for survival of fittest, I don't know if Darwin's animals can both survive and be spiritual at the same time. Please let me know if I am wrong. I think @mr_engineer is right about some careers being more competitive and this mostly favors men because they are somewhat familiar with harsh conditions.
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Spoiler alert: I don't have the answer, and I don't seperate religion from it's pratices. Because what I mean by religion is way of doing something, which is a pretty old homeric definition and I am sorry if this post confused you. Now first I suppose, there are multiple means and perhaps universes for something to be in a working condition, let's look at like this; Well, religion is the ultimate testesterone drop we all need in a sense a self governance for non-elite class, because if you don't educate masses about the external and internal reality which I believe to be the same thing, they would just go on rampage and do all kind stuff, which means no city ''civilization'' for you. I think sumerians noticed this first and they build their cities and ruled these cities by the right of gods. It's a very strict top down hierarchy no matter you are a king or a slave you are in it. That's the game designed by clergy. What I find the interesting is their motive for inventing the religion, I guess they wanted to be out of vicious food chain, perhaps they didn't like the idea of human eating fellow human (sounds vegan to me lol), also back then there was no idea of human, it was animal eating animal. So they refused food chain idea and builded cities and they merge religion with the city. If you look at epic Gilgamesh there are definitely these motives, especially with the part of Enkidu, it's all about how you make a man out of a beast. Problem with religion or reality which is inseparable from the perspective of masses, nobody governs the elite, they become too parasitic and society collapses or alternatively someone comes along and suggests a new science like galileo, ancient greek philisophers or leo... Which is also a fundemental shift in reality becasue science and reality woven together for example: During the days of ancient greek sun was no sun, it was golden chariot of Apollo, if you gonna do naughty stuff, he would see your deeds from above and report back to zeus at night... So you wouldn't make nasty stuff if you don't want to be punished by allmighty zeus. Then a scientist came along and said hey look, I now what this is, it's not what you think, this behaves like a hot rock if you examine closely you can see it too, from then on sun was the hot rock for some clever people and crimes skyrocketed because what they noticed zeus gives no fuck. This new science ereased whole homeric tradition remorselessly which was their religion. The same for Rome pagan gods were the Rome they ressisted so hard in the end they had to accept this new science which called christianity. Nowdays I think we are still very religious, I am not talking about orthodox religions. Now we are seeing different kind of religion in germany some call it ''klima religion'' whole environmentalism turned into a religion, this time we make our examinations via technological measurements and if you don't come to same conclusion that's bad for you...Here you go new religion, new epistemological field. Now this is perfect finally we get to know this ''hot rock'' better but there is a big but.. How are we gonna make this new measurements or tech to work? I have concerns because we don't have single tech that isn't military related.
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Sucuk Ekmek replied to StarStruck's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
All the phscial gold in the world is already sold. Like 100 times. We are looking the price of digital gold the one you can't touch, noone knows the real value of phscial gold. When shit hits the fan it would be too late to own phscial gold for any amount of fiat currency. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Buck Edwards's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This is a beating of an ethnic French woman by French government. These people didn't come out of blue, they are welcomed by corporations. One day what's happening in Israel might happen in any EU country, we are not so far away from citizens vs migrants scenario. Which is great thing from big corporations perspective because both citizen(nation state) and migrant(nation state) concepts are problematic, and it's a good time to come with new concepts like you'll own nothing and you'll be happy, which is a notion of a non-nation state. Whole idea of nation state is the preserving of goods and chattels. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I know this is going to be a small thread but here is my take. We abondoned old gods and now we'll crown technology as new gods. Now how we do things? We'll do according to technology which is also the definition of science. Forget about other science paradigms like Kropotin's evolution theory, or german's wissenschaft. We are integrated into aristotelian closed universe model. Where every option is ultimately dualistic. What is going on is essentially scholastic thought. Which is also empirical measurement problem, what we do? We further reduce and mythologize technology. Sorry I don't have time to finish this but I'll also add this video. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to bebotalk's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
They question for quality of life improvements, which is a technical process, but there is also a spiritual process this is where we don't raise serious questions. For now we are not automatons, we still have some spiritual identity. Especially in America many people ventured into other ideologies yet from my understanding nothing good come from it. Well I am not from USA so if something good did come for you guys, my apologies. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to bebotalk's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I think this is not about the intelligence but rather belief sets. Like any parrent American parrents teached their children an universe model which parrents belive it is the categorically right model, so their children are operating in that model without questioning their father's or mother's stance, nothing fancy. This happens in everywhere and every culture so people can follow anyone and justify any ideology. This is not something special to American conservatives. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Leo Gura's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
In army they tolerate many things, nasty stuff. I been in these photos, just give a command and see someone standing up and the other standing down. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Hardkill's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I am not taking sides here but looks like here the argument is going to be if it's non-trackable then it's open for terrorist acts, which is a security concern from governmental perspective. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Hardkill's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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Sucuk Ekmek replied to PurpleTree's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
None, I never seen a single believer. There is no holding back. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to martins name's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Advanced A.I. is another term for other humans. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Parallax Mind's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
According to postmodernism there is no grand narrative. My take is; well nice try that is a grand narrative. From my perspective there are ways to do art and for good reasons, like taking a poop. It's a very strict art. There are not many different ways to do it, plus it's for your benefit and not only that you also have an idea about how others should poop as well. If you noticed there are many non postmodernist universal truths about goddamn public toilets. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Loving Radiance's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This is where we think different. Extreme wealth owners and the central bank is the same thing, they go hand in hand. For an example if you guys really want to tax extreme wealth you need to quit using centralized FIAT currencies like dollar, euro etc.. Because you have no right on this moneys creation. Therefore it's imposible to posses these currencies. People need to come up with new economic models, specially decentralized ones. Gaddafi tried to tax the extreme wealth for just a tiny bit, didn't end up well for him, nobody cared. Edit: Forgot to mention John F. Kennedy he tried as well. Nobody cared. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110 -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Loving Radiance's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This utterly bs. You can't tax the one who is creating money. -
Globally education systems are there to preserve the existance of state. It has nothing to do with education. Schools are civilian engineering facilities.
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Sucuk Ekmek replied to Karmadhi's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I am not American but might makes right. Who cares about lost reputation or morale high ground. Young EU citizens simply don't have might. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Don't think it is stoicism, I mean there are things which we simply can't do it. Fuck softies and I am glad you are working in your LP. I mean we are only good as our presuppositions. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to PurpleTree's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Also this why people is fasting. They mourn for the sumerian half god Tammuz. He dies in summer reborns in spring. He is also connected with vegetation kinda like Jesus as well. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Danioover9000 Alright, first we can't do too much about this situation. It's very hard to find a good teacher, is he teaching for his own benefit or yours? Because in my experience it can't be both and if it's not for your benefit than he is not a teacher. Just don't keep your expectations sky high for youtube. Look for new ways. -
Sucuk Ekmek replied to Bobby_2021's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It depends, how do you measure the economy? If you compare it to dollars yeah it's lesser than Texas. In a scenario which dollar is dumped by major actors, its economy going to be much bigger than Texas.