Parki

I am thinking about doing some AA while I am high on Phenibut. (Well it not AA because I will be high lol) Does it help? Because I will be clean eventually.

This is really bad tripreport, but it's better than none. I am 23y/o male, 60kg. I took 5g iboga root bark and another 5g after an hour. I did that just after awakening so I was fasting for 8-12 hours. I had just a little bit of nausea. I didn't vomit. After 4-6 it peeked and decreased a little and since then it didn't decreased at all for around 20 hours and for the last 6 hours it almost got to none. I had irregular heartbeat, 160/130/98 blood preasure(normally I have 100/70/60) After 24 hours in I called first-aid I didn't that before because I did 5g last time and after 8 hours trip started to decrease, so I always was in a the mood that it's goind to decrease soon, except it didn't. The most weird stuff happend at the last 6 hours, when the intensity decreased significantly. I wasnt really afraid to die in the process, but I was really afraid that it could get worse and here could be real possibility of death. If I would die that night, it would be really miserable death. It was like I became aware of the processes in my body and some really evil force araised and moved through my body. And the force like really hated me because it was like it's not suppose to araise in such situations, and at some point the experience started to resemble the experience below. At the age of 16(23 now) I had a terrifying experience( not on psychedelics just out of the blue at the middle of the night) it felt like the entire universe is about to die, not just me I wish I could go into that even tho it's absolutelly terrifying, but I was afraid that due to fear increase heartbeat could increase as well and I could die, so I tried not to go into that and I didn't. I don't like to describe this part because it was really weird and I don't want to exaggerate. "An evil force araised and moved through my body" I don't know what the fuck is that, but I can't came up with better. I also watched psychedsubstance vid and 5g did nothing nearly to me, so I thought that 10g would be fine. It's still not absolutely clear to me what did I wrong. Initially I got into psychedelics because of Leo, so I always was like "Do research, otherwise it could be lethal" but my notions of a good research clearly doesn't meet reality, even tho for me it look like I did it all. I don't like what happened not because the experience was bad, I actually don't care about it, but because it's not clear to me how did I end up in a such situation, so I am afraid to get into such situation again. I don't mean "get into such situation because of sloppyness" I mean do all perasdf and still end up in a such situation.

Now I see how this thing people experience on lsd is possible, I don't know what it's called, I mean when you can hear colors, see taste etc. Sounds are not sounds, they are something that appeirs in a form of a sound, so it's possible to move it to another "field" with the same content.

I don't see with my eyes, because eyes are something I can only find if I have sight. The product cannot be the source. But yet if I put out my eyes, I won't see, so it's the shadow of that which allows me to see. Same with the brain.

should I move it to trip-reports-mega-thread?

I just had 10g iboga root bark 30 hours badtrip overdose, I want to tripreport this in the right way, to avoid future deaths because I was kinda close to. - I will describe everything in a very detail, but due to importance I don't want to miss anything

I could die, so it's not a way of finding out.

All mindfucks are welcome however it would be nice if you revalation is tellable. Things like "I thought that I was a human, but it turn out that I am nothing" are cool, but it doesn't affect the reader due to black hole effect. My first mindfuck were when I just started to code(programming), and I was trying to fix a bug and I was completely stuck. And then I realized that I am working with a model of the thing, not with the thing itself, so if the model is wrong somewhere, I won't be able to find it out through model-inquiry, so I have to do that in reality.

I've created another thread about mindfucks, but some people didn't understand what do I mean by a mindfuck. So here we are with the same thread, but now with exact definition of what mindfuck is. Mindfuck: a "plot-twist" in learning process. It basicly the situation when you think that something is this way and you think or even can prove that it cannot be other way around, but at the end it turns out to be the other way around. The situation when counter-intuitive wins intuitive. Ps I am kinda confused about this because I thought that I would get tons of these, but there was only a few ._. When I was beginner at learning English, I used to struggle a lot with memorizing new words. I tried it all: I did research on how to memorize new stuff, I tried to create some methods myself and I was still struggling with it. And when I was completely feed up with this and I cannot continue anymore, I snapped and stoped try to memorize new words at all and I started to just consume some content in English and if I encounter a situation when I don't know some word, I don't try to memorize it anymore, I just lool up to the dictionary the meaning and that's it. And after awhile I realized that this is the best method to memorize new words: I just need to consume a lot of content and because to the amount over time I started repeatedly see the same words I don't know, so I could memorize them. So now I am wonder what kinda mindfuck I will get next time, because in that time it turns out like magic, because I kinda don't need to do anything and the work gets done. Ps sry for rambling I wish I would be a better writer.

@Soulbass ye but what happened?

root bark*

I am looking for a way to avoid/reduce nausea with iboga. this is what I've found this far, but since I am not going to combine iboga with shrooms I don't consider this. And I also found that I should take lower doses before the flood dose, so I could avoid nausea, but there wasn't manual on what doses should I take. Does anyone have experience with this? I also did 4 grams already without any nausea at all. I am going to do 20g dose, so if iboga could cause nausea there will a lot of it.

I am going to do iboga soon and I wonder what do I need to study about it. Of course I know that I need to learn what iboga is, dosage, effects etc. but is that it? Is there something more to it? I mean if I am going to do phychedelics, what do I learn? What's the entire curriculum? So that I could get all out of it. I am talking about like becoming a phychonaut expert. When I ask this question I mean that there is may be something I need to learn, but it never even crossed my mind, but yet it's crutial to know.

Why do only Leo told us about 5-MeO-DMT? This thread is not about enlightenment. I mean this cool thing was there all this time and no one did tell us about it. I mean here 5-MeO is not a psychedelic, this is a code word, which could mean anything. For example all modern prorgamming tutorials are completely fucked-up, and not only that, but there is an obvious solution for it. So first time when I came up with the ideas I was like "What's the catch? It's so easy, why no one made it before? That has to be a mistake." Of course the only way to know is actually try to implement it, but... The point is that there is some things which is easy to do, obvious, extremely efficntly, but no one have done it yet. The questioin is huge "WHY?", why 5-MeO(here as a code word) exists? P.S. I not talking about 5-MeO. I am useing 5-MeO to explain the phenomenona.

I don't want to do the work alone, so contact me and let's translate some shit.

I actually hold such believe. I am confused about it, because I don't know if it's true and on it depends the entire method how I try to solve the problem. I want to know if it true, because it determns the way I try to solve the problem.

I kinda get that common sense doesn't really work here, but if I am everything, why am I aware only of me? It would make sense if I would be everything I would be aware of everything.

@Shin then which part do I fail to understand?

@Shin ye but it has nothing to do with the question.

Literally there is nothing outside my experience, so when I don't look at my hands - I have no hands, but I have a thought that I have do have the hands, and reality behaves the exact way sa the thought is saying, so I can treat this thought as real, even if it's not. From this perspective naive realism makes perfect sense. I am on that "Naive realism is wrong" side, but could you debunk it for me, cuz I can't see it.

Can a shadow clash to another shadow and make a sound by it?

Ask here your questions that you wanted to ask, but didn't because you sure that the questions are stupid. I don't mean "hey let's waste time by asking stupid questions". I mean that maybe your question is not stupid and naive as you view it, so maybe it's a good idea to try to ask it.

@Martin123 ah now it make sense to me. I can't see it but it makes sense.

View enlightenment as an elixir of immortality does not make sense. It looks like this enlightenment thing will be avaliable from this life only, because when this body will die and I will be reborn in another body I will be an ego again just as I am right now. So it looks like if I am going to realize that I am immortal, that ironicly will take effect in this life time only.

@Dingus I didn't see that coming... I thought that everyone will be like: "Shadows can't clash! only objects can, because shadows doesn't really exist, they just a projection of a real object." And then I would be like: "No actually shadows can clash too! Just look at your hand's shadows and clap with them. See? A shadow can clash to another shadow and make a sound by it! That's a fact, you can't deny it!" And then you would be like: "No shadows can't clash it just how it appears to you. The object are clashing but you look at the shadow and think that it's the origianl object!" And then I would be like: "But how do you know that the physical object is the origianl object, not just another shadow?" You humans are bad today cuz you destroyed my genious plan.