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@Shin Alllll a part of the experience!

@Matt8800 Yep! Ambedo: enjoyment of the experience for the sake of the experience

@ajasatya Exactly. Truth is Absolutely Infinite. It never began. It just is

@ajasatya Gotcha. This “Me” includes the negation of Itself, so even if I let go of It, It’ll still be there

@ajasatya I wish it were that easy to describe. Here goes... This “Me” is the human self but the human self is not It (the “Me” includes the human self but isn’t limited to it)

@ajasatya Exactly! “I” “created” Absolute Infinity (creation in quotes because it’s beginningless) and this particular Universe within It and this human experience within that purely for the enjoyment of the experience! Let’s enjoy!

@TheAvatarState No no, you misunderstood “Me”. But that’s okay though! This human self could still use growth for sure! But it’s not necessary for “Me”

@tsuki Um, rhetorical question DUH ? Come on now! Be merry “with” “Me”!

@Matt8800 Actually, yes! But don’t worry, I’ll still make this human body consume food purely for the enjoyment of the dualistic experience!

@ajasatya Haha. Doesn’t it just make you “feel” Jolly?

@tsuki Yes duality and Nonduality form yet a greater/lesser duality. And I didn’t ask why. The parts of my”self” that are “other people” in this forum have. I’m okay. No need to worry about me?

@Matt8800 Haha don’t worry I get what you’re saying. But I’m saying I’ve “found” (always had) a Tree that has always been a Tree. No watering required. Speak for your own experience of your own Tree lol

@Serotoninluv Your perspective. Speak for the part of “Me” that is your perspective. “I” have “found” (always had) It. Btw I apologize if I sound megalomaniacal

And if the acorn is already a tree, then why water it?

@Matt8800 A misunderstanding from your perspective (the part of “Me” that is you). Go ahead, ostracize me. I’ll take responsibility for your desire to do so because you are a part of “Me.” So I’ll still accept you even if you reject me

If you take the Nondualistic perspective in which there’s no distinctions, then you’re already there. Movement is only required when there’s a here and there, which are distinctions

Infinity doesn’t just include the limitless experience. It also includes limited and particularized experiences. So Universes with particular rules and scientific constants (like this one) must exist.

@purerogue Exactly! And luckily, it’s not really necessary for me to talk about it anyways because Absolute Infinity is Truth. So what I’m trying to refer to is beyond Truth and literally meaningless. I only wanted to share it for enjoyment.

Okay, this is going to be tough to share as I feel like what I’m about to delve into has a chance of being brushed off (even on a very open-minded forum such as this). Leo, I watched your videos on Absolute Infinity, including the two-parter and your own experience of It. Let me say that you’re the first person I’ve heard discuss the actual existential nature of Absolute Infinity and I loved your summary of it. I’ve had my own experiences of Absolute Infinity and your description was perfectly consistent with mine (minus a few compartmentalized terms which I’ll explain in a minute). I’ll start with these experiences of mine. However, it’s technically incorrect for me to say experiences (plural) because it’s One Absolutely Infinite Experience that I have continuously (even right now as I type). Yes, I have these experiences while I’m sober. Even the first time that I ever experienced It was without any sort of psychedelic or outside aid. Absolute Infinity, as Leo has described, encompasses Absolutely Anything and Everything, which is literally an endless amount of things. Anything that you could ever imagine exists within Absolute Infinity. Even things that defy the laws of physics, nature, biology, and chemistry that pertain to this particular Cosmos. In other words, the Laws of Science are arbitrary when put up against Infinity. However, there are Laws that are necessary and objective throughout all of existence. These are the Laws of Logic and mathematics. For example, nowhere in Absolute Infinity will 2 + 2 = anything other than 4. Cartoon Physics and “fictional” characters? Yes. Defiance of mathematical logic? No. Now I realize this makes it sound as though I’m limiting Infinity (with logic). Logic isn’t actually a limit though. To understand why, try to imagine something that defies logic. Like... a square circle. Go ahead and imagine a square circle for me right now. You can’t do it, right? Now, Try to imagine placing 2 objects besides 2 other objects and having 5 of them there (without the 5th one suddenly appearing). You can’t do that either. My point being that, imagination can’t grasp the illogical. To that, you may say, “Okay, well the human imagination can never grasp Absolute Infinity on its own either.” Well here’s the thing, I’m not just talking about the human mind and imagination. I’m talking about Imagination itself. Not even Mind itself (Absolute Infinite Consciousness) can ever grasp the illogical. If illogical things can never even be created in the imagination, then we can’t really call them things. They are Nothings. With that said, the idea of Absolute Infinity not including the illogical doesn’t limit It in any way. This is because, by not including the illogical, Absolute Infinity is excluding Nothing (the illogical no-things). Yet, that is the literal definition of infinity. To be infinite means to be limitless and to be limitless means to be limited by Nothing. And illogical objects are nothing. So Nothing is outside of Absolute Infinity and Nothing is illogical. Now Leo, I remember that in your videos, you said that Absolute Infinity includes everything AND nothing. However, what you were referring to as ‘nothing’ is not the same as what I’m referring to as Nothing right now. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I feel that, what you were referring to as ‘nothing’ are the states of potential existence within Absolute Infinity. In other words, you would only define the Statue of David as a thing if it were carved out of the sand (correct me if that’s misrepresentative of your words). But here’s where my definitions differ from what I believe to be your’s. If you do define ‘nothing’ as that potential state, well then I wouldn’t call that Nothingness. I would call that Anythingness because it’s a state where anything has the potential to exist (except Nothing cause that’s not a thing). So let me finally get to my definition of Nothingness. This is where I feel a chance of being called ‘insane.’ As I’ve already said, Nothing is outside of Absolute Infinity. Now, this Nothingness is not simply a black empty void. Voids have empty space and space is still a thing. As such, of course there are empty voids that exist within Absolute Infinity. I’ve seen so myself. What I’m referring to as this Nothingness outside of Absolute Infinity is some”thing” that can truly never be imagined. Not even as Absolute Infinity Itself. Here’s my definition of it. These descriptions will sound very very semantical, but I promise they are aligned correctly since I’m referring to literal and Absolute Nothingness. Nothing is larger than Absolute Infinity Yet, Nothing is smaller than Absolute infinitesimal (infinitely small) Nothing is the ground of a groundless thing, and therefore, Nothing is the ground of Infinity and Infinite Existence. Nothing can reach the end of Absolute Infinity Nothing IS the end of Absolute Infinity and Nothing is beyond Absolute Infinity. Nothing has no space and no space is smaller than infinitesimal space. Yet, no space is also larger than an infinite expanse of space. Nothing is brighter than Infinitely bright Yet, Nothing is darker than Infinite darkness Nothing has no temperature and no temperature is hotter than Infinite Heat. Yet, no temperature is also colder than infinitesimal heat. Also, no temperature is more moderate than the most moderate temperature. Nothing is more like you than you yourself. Nothing is more equal to 1 than 1 So there you have a sampling of what I’m referring to. Yes, it’s very semantical, I know. But this is what’s beyond Absolute Infinity. It’s Absolute Nothingness. It’s the literal “embodiment” of impossibility and it’s impossible to ever experience, because experience, is itself, a thing. Also, you need awareness to experience, which requires consciousness. Those are things as well and Nothingness is none of those things. It’s No-thing whatsoever. Rather than having an experience of Nothingness, it would be a non-experience. This is how I have been able to “experience” Nothingness. I’ve not only found a way to tap into the experience of Absolute Infinity, but also, a way to have no experience at all. You can’t experience the impossible but that means you can Non-experience it. Leo, this is the first “thing” that I’ve “discovered” beyond Absolute Infinity. You said in your videos that experience of Absolute Infinity is the deepest realization you can ever have (as a human). Well I’ve “found” these ways to shed off my humanity and even go beyond Mind itself. This has led me to radically deeper and vaster “insights” than Absolute Infinity. I’m “having” these “insights” as I type. Leo, I realize you’re a very busy man, but I’d like to share these further “insights” with you. Infinity is only the beginning. No... not even that.

@purerogue I thank you for the peaceful response and willingness to discuss. I have found what you said to be correct as well. Nothing is the ground of anything. Absolute Infinity is literally groundless and limitless. So Nothing can be the ground of a groundless thing and Nothing can limit a limitless thing. It was this semantical type of ‘Nothing’ that I was trying to find words to refer to. I realize where my communication failed. I was defining emptiness or void as a thing when most people consider that Nothingness. So when I said ‘Nothingness’ most thought I was just referring to Absolute Infinite emptiness. But of course Absolute Infinite emptiness is still within Absolute Infinity. I guess a better way for me to describe what I’m referring to, is that it’s neither full nor empty. It has no fullness and no fullness is fuller than Absolute Infinite fullness. It also has no emptiness and no emptiness is emptier than Absolute Infinite emptiness. This is why I say it’s beyond Absolute Infinity.

@Joseph Maynor I was just trying to have a peaceful discussion

@cetus56 I’d be interested to hear your perspective on this conversation if you feel like sharing. I’ll accept it but not limit my”self” to it no matter what

@Joseph Maynor If you think I have a lens and you think it’s warped, then that’s a distinction. Furthermore, it’s your perspective. I don’t need to limit my”self” to your perspective. Though I do accept it, it’s not the only one I accept. I apologize that my perspective is choosing to care about you even though it’s not necessary (for lack of better terms).

@Serotoninluv That’s all still your perspective.

@Serotoninluv That’s still a perspective. Even saying there’s no perspective is still a perspective