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@ShugendoRa Try this I might add, as far as I understand it, its the force that creates otherness, the force of creation per se, the Its the point when god saw himself , and the separation between watcher and watched began. That is why in the beginning there was the void and than something happens, the thing that happens is the Logos, regardless of which mythology or religion it is from, it can have different names. That is how I understand it.

Yea, watched it two times, it was quite enjoyable. It was interesting to observe how the hardcore ends of communities reacted to this. You first got the ends of - this is the debate of the TITOns, one will destroy the other, like some green and blue tossing shadows to each other. And after it was done many of them to which it clicked that it wasn't much of a debate, they actually agreed to a high degree on most of the things being discussed. They puked an orange shadow upon them, oh, they weren't here to debate, it was all for business......it was weirdly enjoyable to see this.

@remember Yea, it can differently work with friends, even with strangers, if done correctly that is. I see it as more of a bounding and re-tribalization prevention trick. It has the lightness of heart, humor, slight detachment and playfulness build into it. Something you find very rarely when dealing with these fueled topics, like race,ethnicity or gender. When it comes to larger social change and dealing with these issues of power and oppression it is defiantly a whole other more complex ball game. But as something done in between regular joes, it can work, if the line is not crossed. And i believe it is crossed when ill intent comes into play, intended or projected. If done in a playful and exploratory manner it will have a bounding effect. its a funny thing, it always makes me laugh..

We have this here on the Balkans as well. Sometimes even the whole conversation can be made solely out of jokes. Some of them dark, dirty, homophobic, racist. People also speak very loudly, passionately and sharply, regardless of if there are jokes in there or not. Its almost if the conversation is not happening on verbal,technical,practical level... for the lack of words.... but more on a mood based level. People poke into other peoples moods by throwing jokes, friendly or invasive, depending on where do you want to get. -Me and couple of friends even took this to a next level, where we could talk in an almost something like a code language made out of jokes, mixed with verbs and made up words, where insulting is a key component. Its extremely implicit, it even feels telepathic haha. We'love it, it feels like.... too much ...blotter paper. Its funny when American or western/northern European friends come here. They are always: Why is everyone arguing, is there something wrong, what happened, that guy insulted the other guy by throwing him a racist joke about him and he laughed like the he was given a compliment. Why did you make joke about his 21st ancestor ect ect. Its so funny how we communicate and use language in such a different way here. I assume that from thousands of years of persians, greeks, romans, tatars, huns, mongols, normans, turks, italians, goths, saxons, maygars, scytians, slavs, thracians, illyrians, macedonians, epyrians....and so on.... screwing around here, It is only natural that this kind of bounding and conflict avoidant mechanism would evolve. I'love how Zizek touched upon this. He being from around here as well

Yea, this clicked with me in a post he wrote somewhere recently. The escape hatch leads.... right ....back here. Wo..w.. hahah, yes! haha..haha

Here is something to de-compile you. Chiiiiiiuu.u.u.eers..s...sss. @AleksM Oh yea, Merkaba is powerful stuff man...good call. +1

Please cry at the end.

I like what old bald grandpa Wilber said about t2: -Hurts more, bothers you less. Having that in mind, from what I have observed: -t2 has a more of detached form of passion. It is branching, free flowing and expanding. It can reach to so many different depots of different juices. I Imagine it like roots, freely going trough the soil and branching where needed. -t1 has a more attachment based form of passion, one that is more narrow, constrained and one-directional. It usually reaches to one depot of juice. I Imagine it like roots going trough a narrow pipe. t1s drive and passion can feel so big just because their world is small and their consciousness is dense. Btw there actually was... a certain dryness when I hit yellow.... As if the spell was lifted and the magic was gone. It felt like I knew what is going on and for what reasons. But that got fixed quite quickly, especially after some good amounts of micro-grams.

Jung goes into non-dual lands quite often, especially when dabbling with the self. I quite like those parts. Regarding the dual part, this is the quote, yes it is this one. Even his dualism almost always points towards non-dualism. -The amount of light one can create is proportionate to the amount of darkness one is willing to confront. -No tree is said to reach up to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell. Mr Yggdrasil, where do your roots begin and your branches end. A never-ending torus of wood-veins. Climb towards the light , fall into darkness. Fall into darkness, reach the light.

Have you tried this man ? I am quite interested about it and there is so little information. Read that it would take about 7-10 days of buildup and only after that you can get some serious release and tripping. If you give up before it you'll get very little to no effect. Probably read it in Rick Strastmans - "The Spirit Molecule" book, but not sure.

@TrynaBeTurquoise O yes, yes. Brutal apes, they both love those. Good potential for dark humor there,

@TrynaBeTurquoise Had about the same people in mind. No clue tbh, I haven't watched much of his podcast in the last year. I still happen to think that he is pro all this psychedelic-spiritual talk. Why lower the dial, no clue If I had to go into conspiracy theory, maybe there is some background government stuff trying to pressure him not to popularize these things, 60s outbreak, fear, blah,blah.... but I would be stretching it too far. Btw I think Leo will fit in just fine and wont feel that different from his other guests. Its that we around here are used to seeing Leo as an somewhat-arrogant internet talking head, that has one directional and information dense conversation. I am sure if he went there, things would be lighter, jokes will pop-up. Its going to be smooth and laid back, they'll touch different life points. We barely know how Leo is like outside of this frame. Maybe they will talk about salmon.... or skyrim, haha who knows. WOW, I am imagining this, does it mean it will get manifest soon. Man try to Imagine Leo at Joe's hahaha Lets do a group visualization.

He did not twist the topic man, I think he just probed on how does tripping affect his training. Rogan trains hard too. Its a relatable topic. Btw he had numerous fringe people of all kinds at his show. He'll have Leo if he gets the time/space for it, I am sure of that.

This was also nice:

Hey hey. Has anyone come across this thing. It is being claimed that it rises overall life-force, energy levels, reduces sleep, these kinds of things. I watched some of the stuff this guy puts out, this pendand seems to be build based on downloads he got. He does channeling too. I am really interested in any first hand experiences with this. Got it on my wishlist, but my pocket is kind of empty these days.

Bookmarked, I'll analyze this thread well Thanks for the elaborate explanations @GreenWoods . Didn't know that Kreiter had books on OBEs. It was expected, it just never occurred to me. @Bryanbrax I can almost bet that this is how that amulet sounds if you get near it.

Just a couple of interesting insights i got regarding my native language that I want to share with you guys. In our language the word "све" (sve) is translated to the world "all" in English. Found it quite interesting when I noticed how this word is the core of other words, and how this plays out. све (sve) -------------------------------- all свет - све-т (svet) ------------------- world свето - све-то (sveto) --------------holy сведоk - све-доk (svedok) --------witness светло - све-тло (svetlo) ----------light тло (tlo) = ground/base > svetlo = light = ground of the all, base of the all. This also linked up to some English language insights for eg. light - used in - light as low weight, and as "light from a candle" -when does one become enlightened, or follows the path of the light, one becomes lighter. (got this from long ago, I assume almost everybody around here got this as well) -holy = wholey Maybe I am stretching it too far, but does a thread in this spirit have potential for a mega-thread @Leo Gura

dae before you dae, so you may...liv or... dae, before you dae, so when you dae, you wont... dae

Yea, for some reason sabbath never grows old to me. Here is something sabbath related Before us lays dreams A light no one sees Hail to nothingness

@Dwarniel Wow girl, you fucking rock. 1,2,4 favs.

@steenadrianmr Its probably best to "measure" the intensity after being clean for couple of weeks. Tolerance can stack up quite fast and 600ug can feel as weak as 100ug if you do it couple of days in a row. Also doses can vary a lot between different individuals. you probably know this, but thought its good thing to mention anyway. Btw having this in mind, I have had very powerful experiences on 250ug. Forgetting language, difficulty with talking, when able, speaking and thinking in metaphors and being in the archetypal ground for half the trip is very common for me. I also get a lot of non-dual dips while on this dose. Remotely remembering people and seeing them as unique primordial intelligences, as split faces of god trying to understand himself . The boundary devolving effect can be very powerful , the intensity can be similar even on 150ug of very pure acid. All this..... while people around me that have taken the same dose, can talk, recall artists, events, add shrooms and dmt into mix, NO2 ...ect... And I......I'm tripping balls.

@fridjonk Yea its quite a diverse genre, themes can range from red to turquoise. I love the whole spectrum Its a very useful format for zipping thoughts and emotions and all that shit. We have dirtied this thread a bit. But I assume its not off-topic, we are still talking about our favorite arts

@fridjonk hoho, that must have been amazing, trrrr,ttt,ttt,rtt,tr,tt, tnnn, tnnn, tnnn tnnnNNn. Jent is loopy. Off you go ?. I often do metal for the second half of the trip, usually black, death, doom. Like Marduk, Necrophagist or Ahab. There is so much life packed in that kind of music... its just .... astonishing.

I am thankful for the existence of this thread.

@fridjonk <3 :* The one with the eyes you mentioned reminds me of this scene. Its a game that revolves around schizophrenia, paranormal and OBE stuff like shadow people. its freaky how a being can envelop you and suck you dry, the oldest of fears.