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@mind_blown Hm, try this, it has worked for me in the past. -When someone talks, just forget that you have to reply. -This in turn will force you to just listen, instead of listen in order to reply. -You will only listen, for the sake of listening. -Why ? Maybe because you really care about what they have to say, and even if if you dont, its fine, you at least care about yourself, so you will listen very closely on the off-chance that you will hear something that may not know and can be useful to you. No matter what the topic is. -To make sure you are doing it right, when someone ends the sentence, instead of throwing something back at them, try to reinterpret what they have said t in your words, you will either get a nod, or if you have missed the point, you'll get further explanation. -If you get triggered, its a bingo! You remember that trigger and do shadow work at home. -This works best when you are not just talking nonsense and joking around ofc, it works better with more serious topics. Test it out for a month or so. Its just practice, you wont have to listen to everything that speaks for your whole life

@Johnny5 Chameleons, yea... they really are. Got a friend like this, we share the trait of enjoying and absorbing the life out of anything. Where we differ is that I can perfectly listen and enjoy, for eg.... a stage blue nazi ranting about stuff that most would perceive as toxic, or a stage purple talking of how the moon came to be. I can do that, sometimes even match the talking style and get in sync. But that guy can just fully become anything he perceives, at any time, in a snap, consciously.

@Danioover9000 Oh yea, mm... mmMMMm. I feel like most personal development topics, lower or higher ones have been beaten to death in both well understood ways and in misunderstood ways. Talks about open mindedness and skepticism are also very common. But I am yet to see a high quality explanation of how to navigate in between. So yea, if it comes out, i will turn the lights of, grab that potato chip and fap !!!

Re-watched some of Jackue Frescoes stuff after 5 years. I loved the guy back than. I would say he had a great capacity for yellow thinking, but is mostly grounded in green, seems a bit paradigm locked with the social constructionist stuff. Something that yellow is beyond . He also looks like he had well integrated orange, at least when it comes to science.

@Leo Gura Hm, haven't got a grip on 5-meo yet, its hard to get around here, so I never tried it. But on vaped NN-DMT I rarely get visuals. Its weird..... When I vaped it yesterday it almost felt like I lost my mind and that my consciousness was stuck and stretched in between some angles. I had no clue what I was. Quite bizarre, no typical visuals. My friend that had over 150 various trips, when he heard me explain it he said, man you are describing a saliva trip, this is what everyone reports on saliva.

Yea man, it is..... it is. The cables of gender go far deeper than what most people assume. And ofc they are always knotted in myriads of ways. I am not sure, but to play it safe it seems to me like its an identity almost bordering the identity of being human. Its a child of the master human nodes, to put it in other words. It is at least ... that deep. Folk will have to transcend tons of things before they can grapple with gender for real. Blue and orange may grapple with gender, even green will, but being something so deep,it will almost always manifest in twisted and knotted ways. That is why, you and me my friend, must go and put LSD into the pot water Oh I didn't post the most important part of the video. Yea, this is actually the highlight, hold your hat

hah, same here, never made the visual connection. When I hear the phrase, this is the image that almost always pops into mind. I also like it how there are multiple people inside, not just one.

@Johnny5 Glad you liked it. I'd say you got it right the first time, it sounds like very feminine type of yellow to me, a type that is extremely rare. She also understands Jung very well, that alone makes one dip into Turquoise waters. Not sure what box, but yea, its the integral box.

Yeah, i'll try, not sure If I would be able to write anything....ha.. Yesterday, 6AM, at a friends house, after a long night of alcohol and weed I decided to hit the changa pipe. Just one normal toke. Sounds very irresponsible and it probably was, still I felt the effects of all the other stuff were fading to acceptable degrees. The remaining alcohol gave also gave me some balls, which I didn't have previously. The smell of DMT alone reminds me of Absolute Death. Not sure how much was in the pipe, we have a good trust with my friend, so I told him not to put too much. It probably wasn't, I am just very intolerant to it. So I'll try to explain. Laid back on a couch, while my friend was holding the pipe and steaming the changa. Phase one: Took all the air out of my lungs and after a minute of that, started pulling that huge toke. The intent was, get filled and hold it as much as you can. So I did that. Phase two: The glass pipe becomes 4k, having tints of blue and orange at some places. Its very still, as if everything came to a halt, I was still pulling. Phase three: I started to lose the grip over the body, not sure If i released that toke, because my will was trying to get a hold of the concept of holding/releasing and lost it on the way, so I have no clue for how long I held that breath. Meanwhile the body felt like it was dissolving from the torso region outwards towards the extremities of the body. All of this was happening as I was aggressively falling backwards, in a wavy or even swirly motion away from a clipping plane that had a closing hole in the middle (it didn't feel like a deep portal, just a plane), the plane was becoming whiter and had blueish flower patterns emerging on-top of it, as the intensity was growing so did the visibility. Regardless of the falling feeling, it felt like this plane was constrained to me, as if it were falling along with me. Nevertheless, I got the message, time to say good-bye to all of this, you are done, this is how it ends, accept!, but i want to get a hold of this leg a bit, accept!, but.but..... accept!. As this swirly failing thing was happening I was actually kicking around on the couch like a baby, as someone who had no control over the dynamics and weight of things. My friend said that he has never seen anyone react like this to dmt. I knew I was kicking , but no clue why, it's like that wavy falling did something to my legs. It didn't feel like fighting . Phase four: After that panicky falling eased up, it didn't feel like I traveled somewhere, it felt like I fell from 1 meter height and and I am into this not really new place. It wasn't even a place, it was bizarre nothing. Mostly the room, which was blured/muddy at most places, friends were missing, the one that held the pipe was at more places at the same time and was stretched in a harmonica like motion, most things were 2D planes inside a 3D space, that didnt felt even feel like space, objects were missing, some were replaced with, 2d planes of yellow, dark green and dark red colors. If you want to call these even visuals, I would call them extremely stupid stupid and bizarre visuals. My eyes were open all the time, I didn't know this, didn't know I had eyes, was biped ect.. I sat up, but I didn't know I did it. I just willed my ..camera...to move to a different place in this mess and so it did. I tried to will other parts of this space to do things, so they did, It turns out that the ones reacted to this will were my hands, and I was touching my teeth and face. Some of the objects were exactly the same, but all the memories that defined the way they would be perceived were gone. So they were weird things in ....space, ones that I was trying to separate from others by attempting to understand them and find the ways in which they were different, so I can at least orient myself. It is than that it clicked to me....oh, this is how i created myself, its the attempt of nothingness to see itself ,it created otherness and it will do this forever... it wants to see things and in order to see a thing,there has to be something it is not. This ever-present tense feeling was all around, the feeling of - its alright, chill, everything is fine, its fine of anything to be as it is. This fucked up mess that you see is fine no matter how fucked up it looks to you and both you and it are loved. It did feel like love, but it wasn't anything near joy, it was intense and harsh. Phase five: DMT started to exit the system, I was still not sure where in the room was I positioned or if I was talking or thinking, touched myself all the time to make sure that I am here. Even the word "here" can get quite bizarre. Stuff started come together, it was wavy, irrie and vibrating. I was coming .... home. When I got back I was amazed of how the things I see around are so ...beaten,chewed,morphed,beaten... in order for them to conform to the human perception, but still, they have never lost their beauty, no matter how limited this type of perceiving makes them look. It was a healing experience in an unknown way and I did come out with answers of how perception works and how this whole thing..... came to be..... It may be chaotic and I do not know if you would be able to take anything out of it. But here it is. Wow this turned out long, thought I was going to write 5 rows haha.

@remember Yea It became a mixed bag. I do think its important to note that when people from less developed places are pulled up the spirals have a lot more to deal with compared to people from more developed places. EG Europe had about 500 years of dabbling with orange before going deep into it, other countries around the world are just getting it, its natural that this happens.

You might like this guys.

Some more blue vs orange. I'd say the gay girl is orange.

@mrzgraphics Welcome man! @Forrest Adkins You may also post this in Stage Blue mega-thread, its nice.

@Rilles There is a local weed around here. Folk call it "thieves weed" . If you happen to cut yourself when traveling in the woods and find one, you mash that thing with your hands and tie it on-top of the wound. It reduces the pain significantly, stops blood spillage faster and heals the wound faster. Its 3 in 1 killer combo. Free med kits all over the place, who would have thought.

You can watch her without listening, you know. Try it. Btw try Barbara Goldsmith. https://www.youtube.com/user/barbaragoldsmith/videos

Maybe it is best to just have a premade list of questions that you want to elaborate on, answer them at some point while tripping and than stop the recording. That can ease up things a lot. That is part of my plan.

Been thinking about the same thing. Intending to do it in the near future. if I can read or talk, or at least understand what the device is for. Have a great time and tell us how it goes

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Yes, certainly. I've seen that. This does not exclude what I said. I think it just goes deeper. Point is, its us who twist everything in order to feel better or... morally good. We are not the most important beings, nor are the ones that are similar to us. This is not to negate problems with the food industry and the whole science behind it. There are a lot of things that need to be addressed there. Both the animal and the plant industries have a lot cash thrown into this, huge amount of the science is twisted and corrupted. Even if it were not, its still mostly stage orange science. It gets things right ofc, a lot of them, but it ain't gonna cut it. Its an endless war, until society gets to about yellow I would say.

Hm Doesn't it seem to you guys, that humans... almost obviously... are extremely versatile and adaptive beings. Inhibiting the most desolate places and still surviving. High mountains, dry deserts, polar caps, tundras, jungles, islands, steppes ect. While living there extracting most of the nutrients from anything they can find around. Animal, plant or fungi alike, even from the soil itself in some cases. Some thrive mostly on plants, while some exclusively on animals. Even having modern vegans and carnivores that are actually alive is almost a testament to this. How would we be all over the place if our "true" food source was so limited. On the other hand. Is it so hard to accept that love is so brutal and that at times...there is no life at the expense of another. Is it that hard to accept that in the sea of relativism, we are brutal beings, that do brutal things. We are still taking life, a form of being, and consuming it to further our own. Eating an avocado is just as brutal as eating a kitten, alive. Its just that we feel so related to the kitten, it has big eyes, tiny nose, moves, breathes, makes sounds, screams when you peel the skin off, the avocado does not. You can not relate to the avocado as much, its just ... quite... different. So you peel that little thing, cut it into cubes, eat it and smile. Oh what an consciousness rising, healthy morning snack. Imagine an orb of light (creativity=0 ) appearing out of nowhere and it starts to twist you in myriad of painful ways that you can not even comprehend, only to end you and consume you, oh and it does not eat other orb like beings, like avocados, its not moral, it came for you, it only eats the beings that have eyes, nose, breathe, those are healthy, not conscious and fine for consumption. Its best to eat the ones that scream when you twist the fabric of their being. That's the sign that its an GMO free, organic mammal. Doesn't this whole thing seem a bit weird. Haha, ofc someone made a video in this spirit. Its not bad.

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I like what Ra said: Consciousness sleeps in the rock, dreams in the animal and awakes in the human.

Oh, yes, I cant stop having chills all over the body. .... exactly ...lovecraftian twilight zone ...... I also had similar experience with NO2 + acid combo. Loud, telepathic and invasive I SEEEEE YOUUUU!! Sauron like presence ....

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