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I guess I should 'out myself' for no longer maintaining the discipline of a twice a day, 20 minute Centering Prayer meditation practice. Had about a three year run in doing it twice a day. I'm not going to make a commitment to immediately return to it. In my Inquiry, I observed some spiritual ego (pride) connected with being a twice a day meditator. A crow in peacock feathers is all I am at times. Can't decide if a crow in peacock feathers corresponds to Super Idiot or possibly more to Square Idiot. Probably both and also the lofty state/stage of the Swaggering Idiot.
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@Aquarius You have a great sense of humor. I appreciate that. I enjoy your sketches, too. Do you plan on doing any more?
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This is the first time I've seen/heard it. The first Shakira to be posted on this thread too. Thanks @kagaria Good Choice! @DrewNows ?♂️
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I recognize the first piece. It was used in the 1970's movie about Gurdjieff- MEETINGS WITH REMARKABLE MEN
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"We're all good little Republicans when we're 8 years old."- Ken Wilber refering to the concrete operational stage of psychological development.
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I don't especially like a lot of the newer country music but I temporarily feel brave enough to share a sampling of a few of the older songs I've enjoyed. Later on I'll think of a few more that I wish I would have posted instead. Then I'll probably watch myself list a few more here and get it out of my system. Maybe not. ?♂️
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Listened to Matt Kahn's latest video today and got some laughs out of it, as usual. Insights too. I used to play in my imagination that I had two hours left to live. Not only that, but I was facing a death through slow torture. There was more than one time that I felt a powerful 'something' in me or maybe in my perception that shifted-died-woke up- was horrified, afraid, something,,,, it made me more grateful to be alive in this present moment. It also made me just a little less violent, perhaps. I quit doing this when I realized it was a bad practice. It could actually manifest in reality. Don't care to be doing that, thank you very much. Seems like this was around the time when the book- The Secret -came out. Everyone reading these words is going to die at some point. Your body will wear out and draw its last breath probably sooner than you think. That's not very cheery, is it? Pondering on the inevitability of physical death without any violence mixed with it, is probably a good thing to do, though. The Work speaks about creating second body. An Astral body. One of Ocke de Boers metaphors about this is- Feelings are the blood of the Kesdjan (Astral) body). If you observe yourself long enough to see that you are liar and a coward or maybe lazy in some facet of life and it just totally bums you out. Congratulations, you're under way in purification of the emotional center. After a period of time your feelings will tell you what's going on with people around you without your own projections distorting the situation as much as before. With me, psychological projections still occur fairly often.They can be so subtle. I'm getting better, though,,, I also want to practice forgiveness more. When necessary or appropriate my conscience lets me know. Eating crow while it's still warm- as the saying goes. ? I used to feel guilty for having thoughts that weren't even my own. I learned that just because a random thought or association is made and floats through my awareness. It is not necessarily mine. I just need to say toward such thoughts- This is not me or is not endorsed by me. Then just let it go. There's a lot of trash floating around the psychic realm. Observe your schadenfreude if any shows up and just give it a good look over. It doesn't mean you're a bad person. It's just a shadow in one's awawreness that keeps one in a form of spiritual sleep. (Kenosis - Letting go.) Maurice Nicoll taught that all negativity leads eventually to violence unless the octave is reversed. The way he unpacks the parables of The New Testament in a deeply meaningful way. It would be hard to argue with him. He's dead anyway or his physical body is. It expired about seventy years ago. To Interpret the parables of The New Testament metaphorically they begin give understanding. Literally interpreting them makes for confusion. The first initiation in this Work, called esoteric Christianity, is realizing You are not it (the body). The second initiation is the expression of the individuality-data of the causal body. This is when one has individuated or dealt with the superego and childhood conditioning which resvolves issues and relations and with our childhood caretakers. Usually one's parents. I listened to Leo's last video on making distinctions early this morning and enjoyed it. Think I'll listen-to/watch it again this evening. Sunday mornings is when Dr. Rosen sends out his mini column. When Less is More by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen The less you try to push happiness into your life, the more happiness you actually feel. Life is filled with these paradoxes, with these concepts that seem contradictory yet speak the truth. Today we consider a few of them: The more you focus your attention on enjoying today, the more certain you feel about your ability to handle the future. The more insecurity you are able to tolerate in the world out there, the more secure you feel within yourself. Each time you realize that you can only be who you are, you grow and who you are seems to expand. When you allow yourself to be the unique individual that you are instead of trying to conform or fit in, you discover that other people like you and accept you the way you are. When you blame other people for your problems, the problems only get worse. When you accept responsibility for your problems, you want to correct them and you are able to do so.
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Thanks, You too, @Marc Schinkel
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@Verdesbird I appreciate other perspectives but the video you posted doesn't belong on this particular thread.
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http://www.consciousdynamicsllc.com/home/levels_of_consciousness.html Just wanted to share this particular web page that gives an overview of Spiral Dynamics combined with how the enneatypes look at each of the levels. I've found it really useful as a reference tool for learning both of these typologies.
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@DrewNows ??♂️
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Not particularly related to the above video. Had a trip yesterday and was hooked by catching glimpses of some shadow elements. Not a 'bad' trip. Just had to sit with uncomfortable, disturbing elements observed about my psyche. It's difficult to just simply let go,,,,, let go of self criticism. Letting go and not obcessing is as difficult as it is necessary as it is beneficial. This equation seems to have a different intensity for everyone. Practicing forgiveness eventually produces energy. Good energy. Not easy. Not rewarded by 'the world' (the Culture) From one angle, our true nature is to be a benevolent holon. I crack jokes when I'm under stress.
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Thus song triggers a personal memory of a chain of synchronous events which reminds me to find humor in the ordinary things of life. Curtesy flush for others solely for occustical reasons is a sign emotional intelligence.combined with instinctual intellegence.
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Didn't want to edit again. Related to the above is also the notion of self similarity over scales. As above so below,,,,,
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@DrewNows sent me this video just a bit ago. Its amazing how well it meshes with the stuff I've studied. - Gurdjieff's egg and it's atmosphere.,,,,, I refer to it as an energy egg because Castenada described it as a luminous egg which Seer's could perceive. Almaas defines the Soul as a field of impresionability,,, And on the practice it gave. It was near identical with the practice Almaas gives of 'sitting with it'. The "it" usually being some form of 'deficient emptiness '. By allowing and sitting with it. The deficient state will then transform when completely sat with. Im assuming the word toroidal in the phrase toroidal field is associated with the word torus of the torus attractor in Chaos theory. Chaos theory is discussed extensively in Keyserling's Chance and Choice which I posted in High Consciousness Resources. The four attractors in Chaos Theory align with Carl Jung's four functions of Consciousness when combined with three spacial realms give the 12 energies of the Zodiac which are in us. I have wondered if this holon which is us is also the Holon we call God. The Keyserling Wheel- From - http://www.chanceandchoice.com/
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I remember Arron Neville becoming really popular back in the early nineties. just listening to it I realized the word Conscience was in the lyrics. How synchronous! I've been making a list of songs that have Conscience in the lyrics.
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"The first place you feel energy at, is in your hands." - Elitom Elamin. I've experienced this as the most noticeable of subtle phenomena. From my understanding, this is the conduit Chi masters use when healing from a distance. @DrewNows Thank you for sharing. I appreciate his emphasis on consistency and also that the "truth is in you". To me, these qualities are apparent and communicated in his embodiment of light heartedness and being. There is so much here which parallels with the Gurdjieff/Keyserling/Losey Wisdom School lineage that I've followed over the years. In Chance and Choice, the connection is made between the organs and the meridian system. The chakras or energy centers are the outermost part of the Astral body relates Ocke de Boer in metaphor from yet another lineage. It's energizing and affirming when different sources blend and compliment each other so well. From the endocrine typology of body types I've studied, I intuit a connection between my historical predisposition to over taxed kidneys and my Mars body type which is adrenal and the connection of the kidneys and adrenal glands. This meshes with the idea you proposed of the detoxification phenomena. A lot of moving parts here and connected with it in a broad way is the overall work in purification of the emotional center and the necessity for the parasympathetic side of the autonomic nervous system to completely relax for all the systems to come into harmony. Not an easy thing for an adrenal type but very needed and crucial. ??
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Nobody is special but everyone is absolutely unique. Friend and former therapist Jim writes a weekly mini column. This weeks column blends with Leo's video on forgiveness. Chasing the Elusive Outcomes by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen It is best not to be married to a particular outcome, not to need for things to turn out in a certain prescribed way. If you plan what the results “should be” or “have to be,” and they don’t turn out that way, then you think your world is caving in and you feel awful. You can control the choices you make and the actions you take. But you do not control the results. And just because you don’t have that control, this doesn’t mean you are inadequate. The ways that things are supposed to turn out are in the hands of a Higher Power, which means in the hands of One who sees the big picture and can arrange the results that are in the best interests of everyone concerned. Life is a great big learning experience. You are to make the right choices, and correct your choices when you have been mistaken. Whatever happens, you have another choice, which is whether you decide to learn from the results. As you allow life to unfold, and do your needed learning, your life takes on deeper meaning and a deeper sense of direction. @Wisebaxter Good to hear from you! Thanks for the encouragement. I haven't seen this video of Leo's. I'll see if I can find it or if you remember the title ,,, that would be much appreciated.
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Alan Watts has credibility with so many but I've heard criticism in the past about his alcohol consumption. Wanted also to freshen this thread and keep it going because of his influence and appeal to such a wide audience. Here he touches on that two edged sword around which he is criticized. A part of the western mind sickness is black and white thinking in conjunction with morality and habits etc. More so than how it's experienced in the Far East according to my understanding,,,
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My tendencies manifest often in an all or nothing kind of way. Not drinking enough water led to having a slight kidney infection flare up yesterday I believe. I need more of @DrewNows dietary discipline. I enjoyed visiting with him in person. i don't do as much physical work as I used to. This has led to more contraction in the body. Stretching or a bit of a Yoga routine would do much for this contractedness in the body but I can't get over the hump in developing this discipline. I may try to simply do more walking in order to limber up more. That I can easily do. I've always enjoyed walking on cow trails along the creek or through the pastures.
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The notion that we are multidimensional but also fragmented is at the core of my healing/work on self/Self. Psychological blind spots exist in ways that we are unaware of because of the subtle nature of self deception. Often to deal with neurotic cyclical thought loops requires an exercising the 'letting go muscle'. Not easy for my personality or Enneatype which is based on fear. It manifests doubt which mechanically creates possible doom scenarios as a way to foresee and deal with uncertainty. I have a permit to use personal pronouns in the spiritual community. ? I issued it to myself on my own authority to forego unnecessary complexity in expressing. Paraphrasing Almaas- "I invite you to leave yourself alone". ,,, Turn and take one step and there is freedom,,,,, Utilizing the simplicity found in Zen. Not allowing our multidimensional qualities to unfold seems to create problems in itself. Reading others journals seems to help my own Work at times. I understand the desire of some to not want communication with others. We all need space in differing ways. We are all so much alike but yet so different.
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I use humor as a coping mechanism when I'm under stress. Bumper stickers that have made me laugh- Mean people suck I can't decide whether to commit suicide or go bowling I'd rather be jacking off Don't tell my folks I'm working in the oil patch. They think I'm a piano player in a whorehouse My child can kick your honor students ass