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@mandyjw Are you implying that everyone here is either pre-personal or Transpersonal? ? I need someone to help me understand what the excel community is about? ?‍♂️

Many interpret that it's the ego or the separate sense of self based on internal images, which is the devil. Maurice Nicoll spoke about seeing negative states in oneself. That forgiveness arrives through understanding by observing reactive mechanical reactions that arise in oneself and others. From the Psychological Commentaries of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky BEARING UNPLEASANT MANIFESTATIONS “One sign of Being is the capacity to bear the unpleasant manifestations of others. Why is this a sign of greater Being? The answer is that you cannot do this unless you have seen in yourself what you dislike in others...When you have just criticized someone, go over what you said carefully and apply it to yourself. This neutralizes poison in you.” V. 1, pp. 168, 176 ON BEING PASSIVE TO NEGATIVE STATES “Sometimes when one is in a bad state and attempts to get out of it and fails to do so, one can be consciously passive to it, without being negative and without identifying with it fully, having the inner certainty that it will pass provided one does not let negative imagination work and does not consent to its presence. This is a form of Self- Remembering, and it is just as if one has to wait, and knows that one has to, because it is raining too heavily and one cannot go out just at present and yet remains certain it will clear.” V. 1, p. 368 RESPONSIBILITY FOR NEGATIVE STATES “If you are in a negative state, it is always your own fault, from the Work point of view. No matter what happened, what someone said, what someone did, we have to become responsible for our negative states—ourselves. . .When you feel the presence of negative emotions in you, as a foreign substance, as acutely as a stomach-ache, then you will seek, for your own reasons, to work on yourself and transform your inner state for your own inner health...But this takes many years and requires a certain inner courage, an inner bravery, an inner determination, until something new is born distinct from life.” V. 2, p. 695 Also Almaas comments- If You Want to Become Mature as a Human Being You Must See Your Anger If you are interested in becoming a truly mature human being, you must conduct yourself according to the highest values you know, all the time. It is part of being a mature human being to put in the effort of conducting yourself thusly. If you believe that the integration of your realization should just happen by itself, or that it should be easy, you are not understanding what life is all about and you are behaving like an infant. To become a gracious, generous, respectful, loving, kind, and clear human being, you have to work at it. It is not going to simply happen. God is not going to do it for you. You have to put effort into it, minute by minute; otherwise you will not transform. Of course, no one is saying you have to do this; no one has to do the Work. It is your choice. If you want to do it, this is what is required. You might say, “It’s too difficult. I’m angry about it and I don’t like it.” So it’s difficult. If you want to become mature as a human being, you must see your anger, your hurt, and your frustration, and tolerate it and in spite of it live like a mature human being. More quotes found on this page- https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/anger

Bon voyage,,,,@fridjonk Good to see you checking in,,,,, Let us know how it goes. If you feel like.

Spiritually asleep humans feed on negativity of different forms. It was probably a bunch of angry ' greens' who made this Trump ballon. Which I also think accurately characterizes the man. I see many orange-blue worldview types who intentionally name drop Trump in front of more liberal types simply to push their buttons and feed off of their anger. Angry people enjoy making other people angry. There seems to be a pandemic of angry people in the U.S. and the most angry are also the most belligerent who are not interested in working on themselves or even acknowledging their own shortcomings. Second tier folks are those who have managed to transcend and include the lower levels of the Spiral. They have the practicality and common sense of blue-orange and also the compassion of the green. This world needs leaders who are solidly into second tier.

I can be such a dick.

The irony of Awakened Conscience is the felt experience of feeling one's own every-which-wayness.

In Pythagorean numerology, it's said for those with a 33/6 birth number, enduring an emotional crucifixion is on the menu. Enjoy your meal,,,

This is in the area of my reply. Please excuse the gnostic style throw down. The awakening of Conscience is a topic on my plate lately. Conscience- The intelligence of the universe which is connected to one's inner truth. Aquired Conscience from childhood conditioning is different from Culture to culture and can't really be relied upon. Awakened Conscience is the same in everyone. The language of the smile,,,, Awakened Conscience knows and informs one immediately. Detects bullshit, establishes proper boundries,, etc., The I Ching is helping me to cultivate this connection with inner truth. Work in progress. Very abstract reply, I realize. Hope it helps,,,

Jesus,, shit People are tough these days. I like to ponder epigenetics and the morphogenetic field, though. Rupert is more than just pretty damned smart, I'd say,,,

Elements Needed for the Process of Understanding For the process of understanding to happen, three elements need to be there at the same time. The element of disidentification is one of them, involvement is another. The third element is the quality of allowing. These elements can be there when there is harmony among the three centers—the belly center, the chest center, and the head center. When there is this harmony, it is possible to experience fully, to allow, and to disidentify. Now, what do I mean by these three elements? Each center contributes to the process of understanding. If the head center is functioning correctly, it means that space or emptiness is allowed. What is the significance of space and emptiness? Space and emptiness make possible the quality of allowing. When there is space in the mind, there is no self-image. You’re not trying to stick to something in particular. You’re not trying to go somewhere. The mind is allowing whatever is there to be there. So the head center’s participation or contribution is space, which is an allowing, a welcoming in a sense—space for things to happen without rejection, without trying to hold on. You become complete allowing. The heart center’s contribution has to do with its central quality, which is the personal essence. The contribution of the personal essence is the diving movement, the actual living of the experience. You not only allow it, you’re in the midst of it, you’re one with it. You’re really it, you let it happen, you feel it fully, you sense it fully, you experience it fully, right? That’s the contribution of the heart center. The belly center has its contribution, which is represented by the self, the essential self. The contribution of the essential self is the disidentification, the turning away. When you are truly functioning in the belly, you are completely present, and being completely present, you are being yourself. So you are not identified with the usual activity of trying to get somewhere else. All of this is Hameed talking,,,

I don't know. Do you know? Im that kid on the playground who is off to himself. Lost in his own world but telepathically linked to some other misfits who sporadically console one another. You know more than I do but you're crazier and so that puts us kind of on the same level. You're smarter than me though.

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Don't go around half dead. Love me or hate me while I'm here. My days are numbered and I know it. Wake up and Feel your Fucking heart what does it say? A poem by Red Hawk Honesty If you want to see what real honesty is look no further than the dog. The dog doesn't give a damn for looking good but will hunch the leg of the Queen's mother If it feels like it. The dog doesn't care what the hell you think, it will lick its balls in the presence of the Pope If that is what it has a mind to do. The dog does not stand on position, power, wealth or fame of any kind. He will bite the rump of the Emperor if he tries to pick up the dog's food; the dog will lift its leg on the whitewall tire Of the Prime Minister's limousine or shit on the Dalai Lama's Prayer rug because he is a dog and that is what dogs do and in some secret uncorrupted part of the self we admire this honesty in dogs, because we see it is absent in ourselves and we know that such honesty comes with a terrible price in this world.

Ecstatic Passionate Love There is the sweet, fluffy kind of love, the merging and contented kind of love and then there is a third kind of love: passionate, powerful, consuming and ecstatic. You feel you've been taken by storm. Your mind is gone. You feel power and lustiness, passion and zest. You feel your whole being is burning like a flame and that flame is full, and that fullness is the love. You feel ecstasy, passion and no difference between desire, wanting, giving, receiving. It is all one consuming thing. I call it ecstatic, passionate love. This love is not only directed toward a person. It is again your beingness. You are the passion. It is true passion, not the passion of the emotions, which is fake passion. When you are passionately longing or passionately wanting, you are being your passion itself. But as true passion of love, you feel like a consuming force of life. When you look at life and existence, you're not wanting something from it; you simply appreciate and love it passionately because life and existence are so beautiful. Beauty is a part of the passion. What ignites that passion is beauty, the exquisite, luminous beauty of existence. Diamond Heart Book Two, pg. 162 ❤️

Laughter is the best medicine

Free! Shock treatment for the world @ large No charge! Look Ma, no ego,,, ????☠️???. ?. ?

The schizoid defense mechanism is- ?Let's just pretend like that didn't even happen. ? We all probably have relatives who fit in this category,,,,

The elephant in the room. In polite society it's just not spoken of too much. A whole afternoon of going at it sweaty as can be and doing it every-which-way like a couple of monkeys until saturation and exhaustion sets in. All the check marks are checked off and all that stuff.That's good for everybody. Two healthy consenting adults behind locked doors or the back yard with creative imaginations and a sense of humor. That can be good stuff! The unspoken but proverbial rainy day afternooner. Yet a fool or a cosmic jokester absolutely gets a free pass in announcing it. Why is that? See how innocent I look? Smile, wink, nod. Let the dishes pile up, we don't give a shit,,, Okay,, on to the next subject,,

Four poems by Arnold Keyserling Meaning You will come to your senses and discover yourself, when you finally and forever abandon self-pity and self-criticism. Authenticity Complete honesty requires a clear acknowledgement of your own style. The New People will recognize one another by their authenticity and the values that they embody. Truth Only that truth which is recognized by all can become a fellow-being. You should grow up around your grievous mistakes like a tree, and let them be, until one day they become a part of your strength, and they no longer hinder your ascent. Thinking is a force, feeling leads to new motivations. Remain receptive to both and truth will become attainable. Truth is that knowledge which becomes one with being. You will become one with being when all of your burdens and loves, objects and fears, sorrows and joys have found their place in the whole. Sorrow No one would make the decisive step without sorrow and doubt. But taking that step has nothing to do with sadness. It is shed like the skin of a snake. The darkness is able to generate the right reason, one more difficult, but also better, than the next. But it will not always be so. Some day love will shine upon you. Then sorrow will simply be the undertone of the resulting harmony. The path is there from the very beginning. Sometimes it is easier, sometimes harder. But one thing is essential: the depth emerges from the strength of sorrow. Without sorrow there is no course; without the course the path is not passable. Mourn – not over the self – but over what is yet to be done. Each day brings further sorrows, and eventually you will reach the original cause of sorrow. Then you can finally begin the ascent back. Rejoice in your sorrow, for the darkness will not remain with you much longer. From - https://schoolofwisdom.com/visions-and-poems/

A Diamond In Your Pocket If your the kind of person who has read The Power Of Now 20 times, you'll probably read The Diamond In your Pocket about 5 times.

The Gifts of the Simple Thank-You by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen Gratitude lightens your heart. The simple act of being grateful acknowledges that a gift has been given and received. To merely pause and think a thank-you brings you closer to other people and engenders the feeling of oneness. It soothes some of the loneliness, because your few moments of gratitude give recognition to the fact that you are not alone. A simple thank-you, and you are opening your heart. Your grateful heart brings love both to you and the others. A touch of gratitude, just a few words, a little thought, and you are making room for love and closeness. Your ego steps aside and the humble you stands forward. Just a few drops of being grateful lets you receive a gift and give one back at the very same moment.

I feel her to be a very gifted person who also wrestles with the varieties of the human condition. She has psychological blinds spots like everyone. She seems authentic and well intentioned but I have empathy for her also. Belonging to a semi rare group of individuals who can walk into a room and piss off half the people in it just by taking a look around. I trust her for the most part.

The topic made me think of Terence Mckenna's Time Wave theory (which didn't seem to pan out) and also this clip from the movie Waking Life.

@Marc Schinkel ?That's close but I didn't become entranced in a show unless it was Star Trek, Hogan's Heroes, Gunsmoke or something like that. It was my job most of the time to go outside and turn the tv antenna until I someone yelled Woe. Usually followed by a series of - "too far, go back just a little". I'm not familiar with Lil Dicky. I'll investigate. I would probably appreciate Eminem more if watched 8 mile or maybe read his biography. @modmyth Thanks for the music trivia. That backs up my hunch that Jeff Lynne is a mystic hiding in plain sight. As was the other members of The Traveling Wilburys. Bob Dylan. is the only one still alive, I think. It seems each succeeding generation is naturally more sophisticated than the previous ones but still lack in a certain kind of Wisdom. I wish that I would have known then, what I know now. Hinted at in the old phrase that "youth is wasted on the young " A lot of us have laughed at how the older generations expressed themselves, dressed, cut their hair, etc. but then in just a few years, those that laughed at others find their styles being made fun of. If the result of wearing eccentric clothes meant paying fewer taxes,, I would do that at the drop of the hat, though. ?