Zigzag Idiot

@Jacob Morres I read your post yesterday. A few minutes ago I thought of it again and Gangaji's book came to mind. It's very similar to Eckhart Tolle's Power Of Now. Below is a quote from it. It may not be the right one for you but I thought it wouldn't hurt to share this. “In this moment, however you are searching, stop. Whether you are searching for peace and happiness in a relationship, in a better job, or even in world peace, just for one moment stop absolutely. There is nothing wrong with these pursuits, but if you are engaging in them to get peace or to get happiness, you are overlooking the ground of peace that is already here. Once you discover this ground of peace, then whatever pursuits you engage in will be informed by your discovery. Then you will naturally bring what you have discovered to the world, to politics, to all your relationships. This discovery has infinite, complex ramifications, but the essence of it is very simple. If you will stop all activity, just for one instant, even for one-tenth of a second, and simply be utterly still, you will recognize the inherent spaciousness of your being that is already happy and at peace with itself. Because of our conditioning, we normally dismiss this ground of peace with an immediate, “Yes, but what about my life? I have responsibilities. I need to keep busy. The absolute doesn’t relate to my world, my existence.” These conditioned thoughts just reinforce further conditioning. But if you will take a moment to recognize the peace that is already alive within you, you then actually have the choice to trust it in all your endeavors, in all your relationships, in every circumstance of your life. It doesn’t mean that your life will be swept clean of conflicts, challenges, pain, or suffering. It means that you will have recognized a sanctuary where the truth of yourself is present, where the truth of God is present, regardless of the physical, mental, or emotional circumstances of your life.” ― Gangaji, The Diamond in Your Pocket: Discovering Your True Radiance

Isn't there a Zen saying something like Before enlightenment I chop wood and carry water After Realization, I chop wood and carry water i could easily be taking this out of its proper context and/or wording it wrong. if anyone knows about this statement, please chime in.

That's my problem as well,,,, I'm often unable to articulate my intent accurately The trouble with words,,,,,,

Taken as poetry, I kind of get it,,,in an abstract way. Along the lines of - Love has no opposite,,,,,, ?‍♂️Getting the drift? That make any sense?

Earlier in life i used to experience the most awful feelings of emptiness and existential angst amongst other harsh, empty kinds of feelings. The kind of experience I wouldn't wish on my worst enemies. That is, if I had any, which, as earlier in life, I did. I don't mess with people in a negative way. Sometimes though I kind of make slight gestures of tickling their inner world, you might say. I'm afraid though, as it now appears, it gets taken in a wrong way sometimes. An unintended negative way. Maybe this little attempt at explaining will help them realize I'm not the kind of psychopath they're tempted to take me as. Although, I do have a bit of the psychopath about me. But not one of the mean variety anyway. ??‍♂️

If it wasn't for politicians and Fox News broadcasters, shit shovelers wouldn't have anyone they could look down on. But then there comes a time in one's development,,,,,, Coming from Peace and Stillness When you really see that the nature of the personality is reactivity, a cyclic reactivity, when you see the whole cycle of ego activity based on hope, desire and rejection, it is possible that the activity will cease, and peace and stillness will arise. Then it is possible to understand what Being is. When this happens, you’ll discover that even if there is action and activity, where you come from is peace and stillness. This peace and stillness that you are coming from is exactly what your ego resists most of all. In fact, the first experience of peace is what the ego is trying to cover up with its reactivity. It is a kind of death experience, because you experience nothing there, just complete, absolute silence and blackness. That is peace, complete peace. There is no action, no reaction, no nothing. Just complete silence, complete peace. You might actually be engaged in some activity, but where you are coming from, your fundamental attitude, is that there is no reaction to anything, no rejection of anything. If you allow this to happen, then it is possible to know what Being is. Essentially, this experience of peace, of death, is that you are not reacting, and that you are not. There is precisely the feeling of “I am not.” I am not, and so there is no reactivity. The full experience of Being is a little beyond this, is more a feeling that “I am,” but I am not reacting. Diamond Heart Book Three, pg. 183 THE FEELING OF NOTHINGNESS “When the Work says that a man must come to realize his own nothingness before he can be re-born, it does not mean that he must humble himself and so on, but that he must by long self-observation actually begin to realize that he is nothing and that there is no such person as himself. The object of this is to get into a position, psycho- logically speaking, between the opposites...Why is it so important to get somewhere into the centre of the pendulum and not swing to and fro? Because here, between the opposites, lie all the possibilities of growth. Here influences from higher levels can reach us. Here, in this place where one can feel one’s own nothingness (and where one is therefore free from contradictions), influences and meanings com- ing from higher centres, which have no contradictions, can be felt. Not regarding yourself as good or bad, not priding yourself on being just or otherwise, not thinking you are well-treated or badly-treated, not being caught by either movement through identifying, you come into this mid-position. This is not easy! With personality active, it is impossible.” V. 1, p. 329 - Maurice Nicoll

In ACIM and I believe also in the New Testament Jesus speaks of "Having your being". The following Almaas quote reminds me of this mixed with a Maslow perceptual/ descriptive filter.- Development and Actualization of a State is what is Needed to go Beyond It The process of development is the same thing as the process of unveiling or shedding at the same time. The development and the actualization of a state is what is needed to go beyond it. They are not two separate things. You cannot go beyond self until you actualize self. For instance, when finally you know your true self, you are it, you realize in the same instant that you’ve gone beyond it. You do not need it any more because you’ve got it. That is the hierarchy of needs—when you do not have it, you need it. You must look for it, but the moment you get it, get it completely, you do not need it any longer. It is not exactly that you do not need it any longer; you realize that it is not important. You realize that it is an idea in your mind anyway. But you do not know that it is just an idea in your mind until you get it. The process of the satisfaction of the needs, the totality of the hierarchy, is the same process as the process of unveiling or shedding. So it looks paradoxical but it is really not a paradox; it is the same thing. When I say you need to let go of your desires, how do you do that? You do not let go by saying you are going to let go; you let go by actualizing them, by understanding them completely. In my opinion, there is no other way than by completely experiencing them. Complete understanding and actualization opens the door for transcendence, for Being to take consciousness further. You cannot let go of self until you completely have self. You cannot let go of your own will until you completely have your will. You cannot let go of love until you have love. That is the natural process of penetrating, of unveiling. If we remember that this is a process, that the actualization is at the same time a loss, a going beyond, that will help us to not get so frustrated and suffer so much. Diamond Heart Book Four, pg. 154

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Roy Orbison died after they recorded this song but before the video was shot. The empty rocking chair,,,, I like the lyrics. “The best you can do is forgive”.

Dave's sawmill Come see what I saw If you saw what I see a Zigzag vision it must be ? Couldn't help myself,,,,

@Toby Glad this is now on YouTube and that you posted it here. I've had it on DVD for a number of years and have watched it several times. Being more than just the founder of Naropa University, he is a very prominate character in the growing spiritual movements that have occurred in the last 40 years. He was and still is a very controversial character. Paradoxical in his behavior and how people in general view him. This documentary reveals a lot of the very dark and unseemly parts of his nature. If I hadn't first read his book Overcoming Spiritual Materialism, I may have dismissed him completely while watching the documentary. Overcoming Spiritual Materialism is a treasure of a book I recommend it to all.

A snippet from my I CHING reading this morning.

@fridjonk Credit goes to Dr. Jim. I'm glad you liked it! ////////////////// Mercy is the highest Law. That's why angry Jehovah is the equivalent of a Pissant within the realm of Gods. True empathy and compassion from a certain perspective can be seen as ruthless as well, because it excludes do-gooderism and the element of pity which is just sham compassion and the concern of outer appearances. There are so many times when things are different from what they appear to be. The capacity for letting go requires frequent exercising the muscle of disidentification. The turning away which is an embodied belly center quality. It's impossible for someone stuck in their head. Being stuck in the head and thinking about disidentification just perpetuates this particular neurosis creating thought and useless and life-robbing thought loops. This often creates psychic entropy. Surrender, dive down through the heart center, the hara, and on down to count coup amoung the nerve endings of the feet and sense the goosebumps. Float up to the hara and activate it as the locus of your experience. Now, straighten the posture. The hara will then have capacities needed to grab things out in the world and work in concert with the belly center which can drop and turn away from anything. At this point the high speed Intellectual-emotional complex utilizes the directives of the Feeling messages coming from awakened Conscience. Be lighthearted and carefree.

Letting Love Out of the Cage by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen You sit there and you want so much for somebody to love you. You think to yourself, “If only someone could see the real me… if the world could see all the love I have inside, then surely they’d love me.” You stay there, keeping all that love caged inside. And you want… for someone to magically see through your exterior and love the real you. And you hold onto the belief that “When love comes my way, then I’ll be free to express myself. My heart will be liberated.” But it is the outward expression of love that makes you feel alive, that gives you the feeling of belonging to life. First you must give love, then you receive it. First you liberate your heart… first you let the love out… first you let the world see the person you are on the inside.

Bump Here's a portrait of the human being holon and so it must also possibly be a picture of God. Arnold Keyserling just referred to it as a philosophers stone. It is made up of 3x4 among other things. Thought is one of the four Jungian functions. Which make up the four functions of Consciousness. Thinking Sensing Feeling Willing/intuition* The asterisk is put above because it's a relabeling of Jung's term. In Keyserling's Magnum Opus - Chance and Choice, the argument can be found for the reasoning behind this. The three of the 3x4 represent the spacial realms of Body Soul Spirit In the human body 2 of the consciousness functions are premixed, you might say. This gives the basis for fulfilling the Law of Three as it's called. In the Law of Three Active force, passive force, and neutralizing force are brought into balance which manifests a Fourth. A new arising. This is when the ego transforms and is subdued within Being. Three Centered Awareness aka Fulasnitamnian awareness bringing about Three Centered Knowing and over time, a series of coated higher Being bodies. The first of which is the Astral body. Im not declaring this as absolute reality. It may be bullshit. But I encourage those who are interested in it, to adopt it from time to time as a philosophers Stone and then when moved or inspired to, give some feedback here.

http://www.chanceandchoice.com/ Chance and Choice - A Compendium of Ancient and Modern Wisdom Revealing the Meaning and Significance of the Myth of Science It's relatively inseparable from https://schoolofwisdom.com/ https://www.diygenius.com/the-classics-library-of-free-ebooks/

Here's a portrait of the human being holon and so it must also possibly be a picture of God. Arnold Keyserling just referred to it as a philosophers stone. It is made up of 3x4 among other things. Thought is one of the four Jungian functions. Which make up the four functions of Consciousness. Thinking Sensing Feeling Willing/intuition* The asterisk is put above because it's a relabeling of Jung's term. In Keyserling's Magnum Opus - Chance and Choice, the argument can be found for the reasoning behind this. The three of the 3x4 represent the spacial realms of Body Soul Spirit In the human body 2 of the consciousness functions are premixed, you might say. This gives the basis for fulfilling the Law of Three as it's called. In the Law of Three Active force, passive force, and neutralizing force are brought into balance which manifests a Fourth. A new arising. This is when the ego transforms and is subdued within Being. Three Centered Awareness aka Fulasnitamnian awareness bringing about Three Centered Knowing and over time, a series of coated higher Being bodies. The first of which is the Astral body. Im not declaring this as absolute reality. It may be bullshit. But I encourage those who are interested in it, to adopt it from time to time as a philosophers Stone. The best place to argue and hash all this out would probably be the thread linked below in High Consciousness Resources. I may repost this there in Order to bump it up to the top.

@ethanb121 I discovered in my experience that giving expression to the one's you hate is just as toxic to one's inner world as trying to repress or deny the hatred. To allow yourself to sit with it and allow yourself to fully feel the hatred.but not give expression to it could almost be called a method of Alchemy. A metaphorical form of good cookin. For years I carried hatred in me towords 3 people to the point I was constantly creating murder fantasies. Even torture and murder fantasies. I tried forgiveness but it never stuck. These people knew my strong dislike for them but I doubt they knew the obsessive depth of my burning hatred.towards them. Because of how I felt, they completely owned me in a sense. This hatred was like poison that robbed me of being able to have a felt sense of peace in my inner world. Eventually I realized some small yet subtle commonalities I shared with them. Such as personality traits they had which were somewhat common to my own. I pondered myself getting tortured in the way I fantasized torturing them and thought about the trauma it would put their friends and loved ones through. As well I pictured the one's I hated when they were just children of 5 or 6 years old and then again how inevitably the day that would death would come when they would inevitably draw their last breath. To set with hatred and not give expression to it can be very difficult but when done with sincere effort, a form of energy is eventually produced sooner or later which gives an inner strength that has a clean feeling about it. This energy can be conserved and remembered. It will be needed because most likely again in the future the same hatred will arise again concerning the one's there is a hatred for. It took me years of back and forth before I was able to let go and forgive but the time did eventually arrive when I would no longer be triggered by them or thoughts of them. in the beginning it may help to engage in some strenuous activity when the feelings are overwhelming and you're unable to be still . Like shoveling snow or chopping wood in order to exhaust the body and help focus the mind. You may intuitively think of something else but in the long run, just being able to set with it and completely feel what you do and not feel guilty about it is carrying out an enormously powerful process. Good luck,,,

@zeroISinfinity Thank you for posting which introduced me to these Artists. Love the classical guitar sound. Especially the one you posted. I've heard it before but never knew its name or for that matter, heard Chaconne Klaverenga play either.

Over time, Red Hawk has become one of my favorite Authors. He has become a world renowned Poet as well, in the last few years. I've heard Martin Butler mention him once in one of his podcasts in which he praised his book SELF OBSERVATION which is the first of a trilogy. Although we both live in Arkansas, I've never met Red Hawk, but I've had more than one synchronous chane encounter with some acquaintances of his. I had had his book -SELF OBSERVATION for about 4 or 5 years in which I had reread it a number of times. On page 56 he mentions a certain person's name (Jay Landfair) and he thanked him for a particular teaching he received from them at one time in the past. It finally dawned on me one day that I had met Mr. Landfair once back around 2004 when I was undergoing some extreme shifts of emotion and mental states. To be honest, my behavior was bordering on being that of a raving Lunatic. What a strange sensation that realization gave me. This was just one of three different chance encounters I had with others who were aquaintences of Red Hawk. At times, it really does seem like a small world,,,, ////////////Change of topic/////////// I'm not familiar with Shunyamurti's trans-conceptual awareness but it sounds quite similar to the Teaching I received in connection to Centering Prayer and what is referred to as non conceptual or objectless Awareness. This is the state or condition that is cultivated in Centering Prayer Meditation over time.by some of its practitioners.

@K VIL It's just my perspective, but what you've shared sounds like it's coming from someone who has grown and integrated on some issues. You're willingness to be upfront about some of this is admirable as well as your consideration of others feelings. You should feel good about that! So,,, congratulations!

I would like to see all the distinctions Leo would make about psychological projections and how it affects so many areas of life. Leo, if you have already talked much about it in a previous video, which one would it be?

Mean Mr Mustard's sister, Polythene Pam, she's a go getter.

Not too difficult to decipher the moral of the story with this one,