Zigzag Idiot

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Here's a portrait of the human being holon and so it must also possibly be a picture of God. Arnold Keyserling just referred to it as a philosophers stone. It is made up of 3x4 among other things. Thought is one of the four Jungian functions. Which make up the four functions of Consciousness. Thinking Sensing Feeling Willing/intuition* The asterisk is put above because it's a relabeling of Jung's term. In Keyserling's Magnum Opus - Chance and Choice, the argument can be found for the reasoning behind this. The three of the 3x4 represent the spacial realms of Body Soul Spirit In the human body 2 of the consciousness functions are premixed, you might say. This gives the basis for fulfilling the Law of Three as it's called. In the Law of Three Active force, passive force, and neutralizing force are brought into balance which manifests a Fourth. A new arising. This is when the ego transforms and is subdued within Being. Three Centered Awareness aka Fulasnitamnian awareness bringing about Three Centered Knowing and over time, a series of coated higher Being bodies. The first of which is the Astral body. Im not declaring this as absolute reality. It may be bullshit. But I encourage those who are interested in it, to adopt it from time to time as a philosophers Stone. The best place to argue and hash all this out would probably be the thread linked below in High Consciousness Resources. I may repost this there in Order to bump it up to the top.

@ethanb121 I discovered in my experience that giving expression to the one's you hate is just as toxic to one's inner world as trying to repress or deny the hatred. To allow yourself to sit with it and allow yourself to fully feel the hatred.but not give expression to it could almost be called a method of Alchemy. A metaphorical form of good cookin. For years I carried hatred in me towords 3 people to the point I was constantly creating murder fantasies. Even torture and murder fantasies. I tried forgiveness but it never stuck. These people knew my strong dislike for them but I doubt they knew the obsessive depth of my burning hatred.towards them. Because of how I felt, they completely owned me in a sense. This hatred was like poison that robbed me of being able to have a felt sense of peace in my inner world. Eventually I realized some small yet subtle commonalities I shared with them. Such as personality traits they had which were somewhat common to my own. I pondered myself getting tortured in the way I fantasized torturing them and thought about the trauma it would put their friends and loved ones through. As well I pictured the one's I hated when they were just children of 5 or 6 years old and then again how inevitably the day that would death would come when they would inevitably draw their last breath. To set with hatred and not give expression to it can be very difficult but when done with sincere effort, a form of energy is eventually produced sooner or later which gives an inner strength that has a clean feeling about it. This energy can be conserved and remembered. It will be needed because most likely again in the future the same hatred will arise again concerning the one's there is a hatred for. It took me years of back and forth before I was able to let go and forgive but the time did eventually arrive when I would no longer be triggered by them or thoughts of them. in the beginning it may help to engage in some strenuous activity when the feelings are overwhelming and you're unable to be still . Like shoveling snow or chopping wood in order to exhaust the body and help focus the mind. You may intuitively think of something else but in the long run, just being able to set with it and completely feel what you do and not feel guilty about it is carrying out an enormously powerful process. Good luck,,,

@zeroISinfinity Thank you for posting which introduced me to these Artists. Love the classical guitar sound. Especially the one you posted. I've heard it before but never knew its name or for that matter, heard Chaconne Klaverenga play either.

Over time, Red Hawk has become one of my favorite Authors. He has become a world renowned Poet as well, in the last few years. I've heard Martin Butler mention him once in one of his podcasts in which he praised his book SELF OBSERVATION which is the first of a trilogy. Although we both live in Arkansas, I've never met Red Hawk, but I've had more than one synchronous chane encounter with some acquaintances of his. I had had his book -SELF OBSERVATION for about 4 or 5 years in which I had reread it a number of times. On page 56 he mentions a certain person's name (Jay Landfair) and he thanked him for a particular teaching he received from them at one time in the past. It finally dawned on me one day that I had met Mr. Landfair once back around 2004 when I was undergoing some extreme shifts of emotion and mental states. To be honest, my behavior was bordering on being that of a raving Lunatic. What a strange sensation that realization gave me. This was just one of three different chance encounters I had with others who were aquaintences of Red Hawk. At times, it really does seem like a small world,,,, ////////////Change of topic/////////// I'm not familiar with Shunyamurti's trans-conceptual awareness but it sounds quite similar to the Teaching I received in connection to Centering Prayer and what is referred to as non conceptual or objectless Awareness. This is the state or condition that is cultivated in Centering Prayer Meditation over time.by some of its practitioners.

@K VIL It's just my perspective, but what you've shared sounds like it's coming from someone who has grown and integrated on some issues. You're willingness to be upfront about some of this is admirable as well as your consideration of others feelings. You should feel good about that! So,,, congratulations!

I would like to see all the distinctions Leo would make about psychological projections and how it affects so many areas of life. Leo, if you have already talked much about it in a previous video, which one would it be?

Mean Mr Mustard's sister, Polythene Pam, she's a go getter.

Not too difficult to decipher the moral of the story with this one,

I thought I had posted a Teaching Cynthia Bourgeault had given about 3 or 4 years ago called the yo yo of Being. I've searched but can't seem to find it very easy. It was a turning point for me. The yo yo of Being is about our daily fluctuating change of state of Consciousness. The Science of Idiotism is more about stage growth, like Spiral Dynamics. Growth in stage or station of Consciousness combined with the experience of the yo yo in different degrees of being or states of Consciousness could be looked at as just another map of Consciousness vaguely similar to the Wilber-Coombs matrix,, I think,,,? Change of topic. It seems like the more I admire someone, the greater the odds are that I will unintentionally infuriate or embarrass them. Seems that way anyhow. Following the council of the I-CHING The Oracle of the Cosmic Way, has probably reduced this phenomena somewhat. Also, I've realized through the ICHING how ones negative self-talk will manifest in one's world without one even being aware of it. Phrases like - "Oh, they are just that way" or so and so "will always do something stupid. So in being more mindful of the negative phrases that I habitually use will reduce the occurrences in which I manifest in a negative way is the same thing as unconsciously creating a spell on matter with words. Having basic trust as well as goodwill is paramount. Making peace with usage of the term Idiot seems crucial from this perspective. To say Idiot and not have a negative inner condition,,,. Idiot in describing one's Essence type would be in this light. I may be appearing to contradict myself here some but with the right intention, this is reversed and instead I'm just paradoxical. This might be a capacity of a certain stage of growth or station.

@peanutspathtotruth I wasn't aware of those particular YouTubes, Thanks, I'll have to check those out sometime. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, This is a good article based on Phd., Episcopal Priest, Cynthia Bourgeault's articulation of the Gurdjieff Work.Iit's to the point about Three Centered Awareness becoming Three Centered knowing. In All and Everything Gurdjieff called 3 Centered Awareness,- Fulasnitamnian Awareness An expression of the Law of Three, it was pointed out to students in a Wisdom School that the Law of Three produces a Fourth,,,, a new airing. I copied and pasted the complete article from this link. It reads better with italicized highlights and dividers on the website itself, though. https://wisdomwayofknowing.org/resource-directory/three-centered-knowing/ elete Article Three-Centered Knowing Note: for a more detailed introduction to Three-Centered Knowing, see Chapter 3 of The Wisdom Way of Knowing Wisdom makes use of an ancient body of knowledge about the physiology of spiritual transformation and a methodology for increasing our “receptivity to higher meaning”. The human being can be considered “three-centered” or “three-brained.” The centers include: The Moving Center, which has 2 subsets: instinctive (like a ‘hard drive’) which regulates operational systems of the body; and moving center proper (more like ‘software’) which concerns outward and voluntary interactions with the physical world through our five senses, as well as movement and rhythm. The Emotional Center: (centered in the heart and solar plexus) This is not the seat or center of our personal affective life or our personal identity as some contemporary thinking would imply. In fact as Cynthia explains with regard to our attunement to our feelings, “The real mark of personal authenticity is not how intensely we can express our feelings but how honestly we can look at where we are coming from and spot the elements of clinging, manipulation, and personal agendas that make up so much of what we experience as our emotional life today.” Furthermore, ‘passions’ in the conventional sense of the word, actually divide the Heart (for example, over-clinging). The Heart, as the center of the emotional center, is for divine perception, serving as a bridge between our mind and body. It has the capacity to perceive paradox, the both/and. The Intellectual/Cognitive Center has a natural aptitude for reasoning, doubting, and making fine discriminations—all legitimate and necessary. But as Cynthia describes, this center has a limited capacity in spiritual life: “In terms of the spiritual journey, trying to find faith with the intellectual center is something like trying to play a violin with a saw; it’s simply the wrong tool for the job.” The path of Wisdom embraces the whole person: mind, heart, and body. The three centers working in harmony is the prerequisite for Wisdom knowing. In fact the notion of ‘sleep’ as opposed to conscious aware awakening, is an indication of finding yourself in one center only. When we are alive, balanced, and present in all three centers a higher consciousness and Presenceis available. These three centers of intelligence can serve as foundational elements around which individual or small group practices and experience is built. Paying attention to each center and weaving in opportunities to connect with each center helps cultivate three-centered awareness. Practicing Three-Centered Knowing Moving Center Practices A simple body centered exercise to practice in pairs, for noticing sensation and experiencing the resonate field of Presence: With a practice group or practice partners, take turns noticing and naming sensations in your body, each of you naming three sensations (ex: I am noticing my feet making contact with the floor, I feel tightness in my chest, there is ease in my belly). As one partner is speaking, the other is witnessing. See if you notice an energetic shift as you become more embodied. Notice times of bracing: Notice when you are in a state of bracing or grasping. Can you pause and reconnect with your heartbeat, your breath, your feet , your torso, and then return to the simple hand gestures of opening and closing, giving and receiving, being with what is. Incorporate gestures and body prayers: Try opening and closing your hands, feeling the sensations of grasping and letting go, or even try a full body prostration (as described in The Wisdom Way of Knowing, chapter 3). Emotional Center Practices Sacred Chanting wakes up the emotional center with sound, and can deepen the connectivity of the group. Try familiar Taize chants—freely available to listen and follow online. There is also a growing body of Wisdom chants pioneered by Darlene Franz, which can also be accessed online (see references and resource list below). Lectio Divina: can be practiced with any short piece of sacred text or passage. There are a variety of ways to approach this practice. Here is one suggestion: Start slowly reading a passage aloud, and allow yourself to be drawn to a sentence, a phrase, or even a single word that seems to attract your attention. Read the passage again slowly, quietly allowing your faculties (your reason, your imagination, or emotions) to begin to work with this passage. This is about a “heart to heart” encounter with the text…it will be different every time. Read a final time, resting in the sacred presence, and in deep receptivity with the experience. (Some groups may decide to include a period of centering prayer at this stage, as an alternative to meditating before or after the lectio.) As you feel complete with the first three steps, take turns sharing what you noticed or what became alive for you or impacted you from the passage. Many Wisdom groups begin by using The Gospel of Thomas in a Lectio Divina format. Intellectual/Cognitive Center Practices Whether as a personal individual practice, or in a small group, consider what material or area of interest might provide fruitful exploration. Some suggestions are: Discussing parts or chapters from Cynthia’s books, or books or readings from other Wisdom writers Taking one or a few Gospel of Thomas logions (passages) for discussion References and Resources: Books by Cynthia Bourgeault (Cynthia has many published books, and the following provide some specific references to Wisdom practices including those mentioned above): The Wisdom Way of Knowing The Wisdom Jesus Centering Prayer and Inner Awakening Chanting the Psalms The Gospel of Thomas by Lynn Bauman The Gospel of Thomas or other e-courses from Spirituality and Practice Wisdom Chant resources by Darlene Franz

I agree about the ebb and flow of energy. People in general do have a tendency to feed on negative energy. I catch myself falling into it in an automatic way at times. I'm off and on, regarding visiting the general forum regularly but I think it's gotten better overall since joining back in December 2018. Some sharp cookies have shown up lately ,,, I thought,, @Preety_India I appreciate your presence here,,,

Hey Everyone, give this Album a try! @jjer94 You've got a nice singing voice and a soulful, good sound. I bought your album Closet Heart, a couple of weeks ago, Got distracted for a few days and I'm back to listening to it again. I want to encourage everyone who is interested, to buy Brett's album through this Bandcamp link of his I quoted just above here. Those of you who can give a better articulated critique of his music than me should consider doing so. I'm confident it will most likely be a positive one for those who give it a listen. I'm impressed with his work. Being a bit of a dinosaur, I've never bought music this way. I like the set up. With the Bandcamp app, you always have access to your purchase. The links expand out and shows the lyrics also. Most likely there are features I haven't even discovered yet,,,

Thank you, @Toby That helped to jog my memory. i really enjoyed two of her books on the Enneagram. Favorites right behind Almaas's Facets of Unity.

@peanutspathtotruth Yes, you're correct on that. There were a handful who worked close for a while with Naranjo. Helen Palmer was also a part of that group. At the moment I can't remember any of the others I'm pretty sure that Almaas was a student of Chogum Trungpa's for a time too. I've never understood why Almaas has been so invisible it seems to the vast majority of spiritual seekers. The books he's written has really had an impact on my understanding and worldview. Thank you @peanutspathtotruth Glad you stopped in. Feel free to visit or make comments here anytime. ?‍♂️

i tried to post this song near the front of this thread but the link was no good. Maybe this one will stick.

@DrewNows Thanks I'll check it out sometime this evening. I've thought about this quite a bit. May decide to have some comments about this a bit later. Claudio Naranjo is the Granddaddy of The of Let's trash can the patriarchal era. He left his Automaton behind last year. Claudio Benjamín Naranjo Cohen (24 November 1932 – 12 July 2019) was a Chilean-born psychiatrist of Arabic/Moorish, Spanish and Jewish descent who is considered a pioneer in integrating psychotherapy and the spiritual traditions. He was one of the three successors named by Fritz Perls (founder of Gestalt Therapy),[citation needed] a principal developer of Enneagram of Personality theories and a founder of the Seekers After Truth Institute. He was also an elder statesman of the US[citation needed]and global human potential movement and the spiritual renaissance of the late 20th century.[1] He was the author of various books. from : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Naranjo

The journal keeper here who Perfectly exhibits the characteristics of the Queen of hearts is absolutely right about the degree to which most men these days are absolute pigs. I confess to having a bit of that in me myself but I have just enough of a conscience to cringe when I see it in others or experience a degree of remorse when I catch a mechanical Part of myself that has dipped into that territory a little. You're assessment of Leo is not accurate though. You project. I say that with out a doubt. It’s not a judgement either. I catch myself projecting at times. Everyone does it to some degree. Reaching conclusions is a recipe for becoming emotionally miserable. I know I often sound like a know it all but it’s just a component of my essence type and those who it grates upon can rest assured that I frequently pay a price for it. But it’s worth it When on the rare occasion the arrow hits the bullseye and as a result I’m shown Love for taking a chance and going ahead and putting it out there. Queen of hearts is passionate and in the heat of emotion says- “off with their heads”. The King of hearts is also in you potentially or at times already. King of hearts follows behind and pardons those who are being hauled to the guillotine.

Mechanical personality traits of the counterphobic enneatype 6, which is my enneatype- overcompensating the compulsive need to make qualifying remarks destructiveness rooted in the passion of fear mistrusting authority fighting for the underdog

Im chilled, Laugh and have fun as well brother friend. ??✌️?‍♂️

L Fascinating interview here. I get tickled at Russell Brand's quick wit. Actually this was a little overwhelming. The power of multinational corporations, military industrial corruption complex and the problems that seem to be on the horizon. Somewhat depressing with the picture painted of the powers that be. Jacques Perreti's description of how the Chinese frame problem solving reminded me very much of Gurdjieff's Law of three..Oddly enough the two videos below that I've watched in the last couple of days compliment it in a roundabout way. A lot of information is packed into this one for processing. This jives with the Fourth Way map of human development in that our 2 higher centers, higher emotional center and higher intellectual centers are already fully formed but remain disconnected until the lower centers are integrated and purified. More Rapture, Apocalypse, end of the World stuff. Delores Cannon has replaced David Icke, Drunvalo Malchezedek, and David Wilcock for me in the department of far out Woo Woo material that I'm drawn to. Trickster types and shady people seem to rely on plausible deniability. I can't name it at the moment but Delores Cannon has maybe the opposite of plausible deniabilty that allows her knowledge to rest in the "as if" category of possibly true which is entertainment for me.

Read this back about 2013. I have a great appreciation for the book title. Overall, it's just a so so read. If I can remember the story rightly,,,,The highlight for me was when this guy went off the deep end one weekend and called the suicide hotline only to discover that no one answered. Not only that, it was vacant because as it turned out he was the one who was responsible. He was a part time volunteer for the suicide hotline and had forgotten to have someone cover for him this particular weekend.

"The absence of joy is slow suicide"- Ocke de Boer