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Even though I’ve lived out of both camps and understand their perspectives It seems I unintentionally find a way to where both the SD Orange materialists and the SD Green environmentalists both eye me with suspicion. Watched this YouTube yesterday and found it more than a little interesting. Being someone who has sprayed a lot of herbicide, especially Roundup. It was disturbing even though I’ve been aware of the claims in the last couple of years against Monsanto because the herbicide seems to be more of a carcinogen than previously thought. In my I CHING reading this morning. I just got one hexagram 14- Possession in Great Measure. Here’s just a small price of it.
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"A hair's breath of difference and Heaven and Hell are set apart. Kundalini = Prana = Kundabuffer = imagination Kundalini + 3 Centered Awareness = Holy Prana = The capacity for objective Reason Imagination in the human population is an example of a gift also being a curse. As I’ve stated before, to me anyhow,this at the heart of George Gurdjieff’s message in his magnum opus All and Everything: Beelzebub’s Tales to his Grandson. An Objectively Impartial Criticism of the Life of Man. Kundalini energy is actually the culprit. It’s the cause of people becoming all big eyed and start spouting off what’s what. As if they’re the only one who actually knows. I’m not exempt from this either. I had a worse than average case of this beginning twenty years ago. The two Giants that march ahead of us, One’s own pride and vainglory clear everything ahead so we can lay down our customized bullshit born out of imagination as we stroll through. The intensity of one’s own life as it’s been lived provide the parameters and motor fuel for this highly customized roadshow. I’ve watched myself do this and it’s painful. It’s so undeniable though, that there is no place to hide. Everyone is this way. It’s behind that phenomena that shows itself as my guru is better than your guru. Or, these are all the books I’ve read and it all makes perfect sense. I don’t give a shit about the books you’ve read because the profundities that struck me in reading the books I’ve read is proof positive. But this is never stated outright. Our inner used car salesman knows better. In our own way, we’re all just a bunch of imaginary experts running around pontificating and spouting off like a roomful of drunks where everyone is talking and nobody is listening. What’s the answer? Just keep plowing on ahead but quit bullshitting yourself and observe one’s own lived life with brutal honesty. In the end it has to come from each of us anyway. The expression one’s own individuality data from one’s own Self completed Causal body. To quote Ocke de Boer: “Whatever I say about this will never be enough, but I will tell you what I think about this from my own experience and you will have to make your own disparity with that. To make your own disparity with something is to reconcile something from Reason-of-knowing to Reason-of-understanding. You need the Reason of knowing to receive an idea. You need your own individuality-data to reconcile it into your own understanding. Your understanding and real I are one, according to Orage. The expression of your own individuality needs to be third force of your life. The result of work is that knowledge becomes understanding. To learn to get our two-natured system (planetary and astral bodies) accustomed to higher states, we have to learn to become collected.” So there’s a possible road sign. The capacity for becoming collected and having inner quiet. Whenever you observe someone who can at least produce this in themselves occasionally, they are on the way. And everyone else? They haven’t truly stepped onto the path yet. They’re still starry eyed and drunk from the earth shaking, yet exquisite subtleties of their own imagination drawn out of everything which comprises their personal history.
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Thinking for oneself Being able to accurately guage other humans with a healthy feeling center/ honing intuition Being an adept in the use of duct tape and baling wire Repurposing materials into something useful and practical Knowing the language of the smile Be ok with solitude
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@Shin I copied the picture from a post you made a couple of years ago.
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Excuse me and please convey this sentiment to your dog. The dog in the above picture fascinates me. He has presence.
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Zigzag Idiot replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you for this kind of engaging which helps stretch my frame of reference and ability to discriminate and sometimes but not always articulate. ?✌️I’ve maybe crawfished some in order to not reach conclusions. I need to ponder some more whether what’s being pointed to is prior or beyond and the experience of it beyond or before concepts and its relation to the nous and more stuff I can’t put into words at the moment. -
Zigzag Idiot replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Excuse me for disagreeing with nearly everyone on just about everything mentioned here. Doesn’t awareness and the inseparable content of awareness = monkey mind, basically? Or maybe being identified with or unable to detach from unconstrained imagination? A product or result of Centering prayer meditation as well as Zazen for many practitioners is nonconceptual awareness or as it’s sometimes called objectless awareness. What about awareness with or without being? I’ve experienced inner quiet simultaneously with a felt sense of being or presence but I wouldn’t call it a state of pure awareness although awareness was present. Pure awareness without concepts or beingness would be - the lights are on but nobody’s home,,,? I’ve experienced that before, also. -
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@Shin‘s dog just showed up out of nowhere!
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Zigzag Idiot replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are several excerpts about awareness and pure awareness in the Ridhwan Glossary. Awareness and the Nonconceptual Pure awareness is an aware ground, an aware medium that doesn’t know what it is aware of and doesn’t discern one thing from another. By nonconceptual I do not simply mean not mental, not constructed. I mean the barest minimum of sensitivity, the ground that is simply the capacity to be aware, to perceive. Therefore, by nonconceptual we mean non-cognitive. There is perception, but there is no knowing, no cognition of any kind. Diamond Heart Book Five, pg. 355 https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/awareness Pure Awareness that is Not Aware of Itself The Absolute is a pure awareness that is not aware of itself, but it is aware of anything that comes out of itself. The moment consciousness arises, the Absolute becomes aware of it as pure light, pure radiance. So you can be the Absolute being aware of the nonconceptual. Or you can lose the Absolute and become just the nonconceptual. You can be just the nonconceptual experiencing the nonconceptual, which you experience as just pure awareness without anything to know. Or you could be the nonconceptual and be aware of the Absolute. And then you know the Absolute. That is how we can talk about the Absolute and its absence of qualities. At any level of experience, you can perceive both the more superficial realms and the next deeper realm. Except if you go to the Absolute, there’s only one way to go, which is towards the more superficial. If you are in the personal mind, there’s also only one way to go, which is towards the deeper. The Absolute is the most fundamental, and the personal mind is the most superficial. Diamond Heart Book Four, pg. 346 https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/awareness-pure -
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About 700 acres. My niece and 2 nephews are in charge of it now,,, Couldnt resist, ?
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@Raptorsin7 wasn’t sure if you were asking me about cattle and crops or @fridjonk . We still raise cattle but it’s hilly and mountainous country where I’m at which equates with thin and mostly poor soil. Crops are near impossible to grow around here. Good to see you actively posting again,,,,
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In my I CHING reading this morning I got Hexagram 13; Associating with People lines 3 & 5 creating a 2nd - hexagram; 21 Biting through. This is the commentary from line 5 of hexagram 13-
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@fridjonk ? In that second picture looks like he’s got that neck bowed up. That’s usually not a good sign,,, I appreciate the pictures. That’s a unique and beautiful part of the world. With you running sheep. I take it that there aren’t any predator problems there,,,, Can goats be raised there very well?
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Offering Freedom by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen I’d be willing to bet that the world is not what you thought it was supposed to be and not what you wished that it were. Changing the world out there is a very daunting, if not sometimes impossible task. But there is a task you can actually do for the world quite easily. You can offer it freedom – freedom from your assumptions, from your pre-conceived ideas, from the “needs” you think you have, from your judgements of who’s good and who’s bad. Remember the law of karma. Whatever you offer to your brothers and sisters is what you receive in return. When you honor other people where they are at in their lives, wherever they are at, you’re not just accepting them for who they are now. You’re honoring and accepting the child of God who is within them. You are choosing to see the love and goodness within them, no matter what their behavior looks like. Even if their outward behavior appears abhorrent and ugly, you are deciding to look past it and instead to have faith in the beautiful being that you know is inside of them. You are now offering freedom to your brothers and sisters to be who they really are. It feels good inside of you – freeing and relieving – because at this same moment you’re offering freedom to yourself to be the love and goodness that reside in you.
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@LastThursday ? Well maybe if a couple were to work together in taming or getting work out of a donkey which in my view could represent Carlos Castenada’s Petty tyrant. Something along those lines maybe. I’ve read the symbolism of Jesus riding a donkey into Jerusalem was that Donkeys represent peace and humbleness where the horse represented an animal of war. I’m just not seeing it,,,, .Not with the donkeys I’ve known. They were nothing at all close to peaceful or humble.
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Thanks @Eternal Unity Great link you posted!
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Donkeys and Bulls Managing and caretaking of Bulls on a ranch can really be a pain sometimes. Inevitably they fight and develop a pecking order of hierarchy in regards to who is the alpha male. I’ve had bulls who were similar in body weight and bad ass attitude who fight and head butt one another through multiple barbed wire fences and even out onto a state highway. With no regard for traffic or anything outside their fury these two bulls in their fight went right down the double yellow line for a ways at times going off to one side and then back. They weighed well over a ton each and both in ill temper. Now, how do you break that fight up? Yeah, that was an interesting day. A hilarious and interesting trick I learned years ago was introducing a donkey into this mix. In essence, a six hundred pound donkey will absolutely establish his dominance over a group of bulls each weighing more than a ton each. Not all donkeys are alike though. Generally the more cantankerous the better for this particular role. Ive had bulls end up with deformed ears because of a donkey who would latch-on and have a good chew. The right kind of donkey will also balance on his front legs and like a professional boxer, ‘machine gun’ with his hind feet into the face of a stubborn bull. There will be times when the bull with his enormous weight and size will just barrel through the donkeys efforts but the donkey will not tire like the bull and dancing around with his ears sticking up will prevail by the end of the day and establish himself as the alpha male. Domestic dogs gone wild or those poorly cared for are much worse than coyotes when it comes to killing calves. Unless the cows group up in their efforts against dog attacks, the dogs can easily kill a calf and chew up some damage on a cow trying to give birth. Introduce a donkey into your cow herd though, and you will have zero problems from packs of domestic dogs behaving badly. If a dog comes into a pasture within a donkeys sight, you’ll see the donkey lay his ears back and make a beeline towards the dog. Even if it’s just a friendly dog, the donkey don’t give a shit and will go after any dog like the infamous honey badger might. Again, I must add that not all donkeys are created equal for such tasks. Among jackasses (male donkeys) anyway. I never tried employing a Jenny (female donkey). An Instinctual intuitive guess is that on average, Jacks would be best for bull management and Jenny’s would be good for running with the cow herd. As stated previously, I no longer have any management responsibilities with the family ranch. It is now seen over by my niece and two nephews. I shared the existence of this journal with my niece a while back. I can see her rolling her eyes if she were to read the opinions of those here who espouse veganism. In ways, she has attributes similar to those of donkeys in that, although she is small in size, she self initiates and shows no fear.
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I fell asleep and woke up as Leo’s video Understanding impermanence from September of 2019 was playing. Very pertinent concernmy “Death wish” expressed earlier . Another topic. Love with a big L, agape is Love for all. If held as a standard to live by, it turns into an ego trap or fate creating falsity. Some quotes about Love. The idea of both conditional and unconditional love comes from the collective ego, and reveals its thinking in terms of opposites. Giving love on conditions is the ego's way of withholding love until it gets what it wants. True love is a Cosmic gift to a person's true self, and is meant to flow from there to other's true selves, and back to the Cosmos, in a complete circle. This Cosmic gift is never meant to be thrown away at the ego because the ego is outside the Cosmic principles. The collective ego has invented the idea of unconditional love to rob the True self of its very life force, under the pretense that it is "spiritual" to extend one's love to everyone, regardless of the ego's presence." -from The Oracle Of The Cosmic Way. When You are Complete Love Arises for Everyone and Everything When you are complete, the action is love. Just as your body needs food and safety when you're taking care of it, your environment needs care when you're complete. From the perspective of completeness, the whole universe is your body. There is no separation, so you take care of it as an action of love. There is no sense of isolation, of feeling you are separate from other things and not caring about them. Love arises for everyone and everything. Diamond Heart Book Three, pg. 98 Your Personality or Ego Does Not Know How to Love The first thing you need to know is that your personality or ego does not know how to love. It cannot love. When you say, "I love you," it is always a lie, because the person who says, "I" cannot love, and doesn't know what love is. The personality does not know how to love. The personality is the product of the lack of love, so how can it know love? The personality is what you usually think is you, what you call "I," "myself." When you say "I," it is a lie. "I" doesn't love. "I" doesn't know how to love. "I" is there because you don't know how to love. "I" is there from the beginning because of the loss of love. The very existence of an "I" is the absence of love, the blockage and distortion of love. The "I" knows how to need; the "I" does not know how to love. It is not possible. What we call "I," our separate identity, is our self-image. Even if the self-image knows what love is, it does not have the love and cannot be a source of love. In fact, when there is love, love tends to melt away the "I." The "I" relaxes and gets out of the way. Diamond Heart Book Two, pg. 153
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In going through my previous attachments that I’ve posted I’m encountering a few that I’m going to share again. This is from Nassim Haramein. Above chart is from Cynthia Bourgeault’s book Eye of the Heart in which she discusses the Causal Realm or as she uses the phrase Imaginal Realm. She places the Kingdom of Heaven beginning at World 24 (Gurdjieff terminology) Today I realized what a handy description of the Ray of Creation the following 3:43 YouTube gives.
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My Death Wish I would like to cultivate the state of mind where I eagerly await death. To do it sincerely and not be doing it to just be putting on a show. That would be a real accomplishment. To look forward with curiosity instead of dread or macabre false bravado. Physical death of the body is pretty inevitable so why not? I’ve already decided in the past it would a good thing to not have any money left in the bank. I’ve always paid my bills and stayed away from debt so I wouldn’t want to owe money to anyone. My house could be either clean or dirty. It doesn’t matter. It’s a sure thing that I won’t die with good teeth. I’ve still got my hair but if I were to go bald, it doesn’t matter either. I would feel better if I had more lucid dreaming under my belt or some serious mystical experiences to inform my intuition . To absolutely not fear death and instead be looking forward with an optimistic curiosity would definitely be a good thing. My father left this Earth at 66 years old. He wore his body out and Cancer got a hold on him at 63. I’ve probably been exposed to as many carcinogens as he had been exposed to and the thought already occurred to me at the time of his death that I should not take for granted a life lived past 66 for myself. That gives me about 12-13 years left. The last 12 years has flown by so it will be here before I know it. In Gurdjieff terms. Will I have a completely formed causal body? This also brings up a notion that I heard recently expressed by Alan Watts. How can we part if we’ve never met?
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Ive reached my limit for attachments to my Journal. Actually this happened a few months ago and I’ve gone in and deleted a good many of them but I’m reaching a point where I just hate to erase any more like the one above which I’ve copied and pasted from my attachments list. I could use some input from someone on my options for being able to upload new attachments. Can/should I start another journal for this purpose? If no one responds, I’ll make contact with a moderator for advice.