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Trust me, you don’t want to do this. I had a friend who punched the corpse of another friend of mine over a personal issue and it did not help matters at all.
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Anyway it’s All in good fun just giving creative expression to my more expressive side ????
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Besides some frivolous posts, I’ve gone back and deleted many of the excerpts from the I Ching; The Oracle of the Cosmic Way that I’ve received in my consultations with the Oracle in order to make room for attachments in the present. In my consultation this morning I received hexagram 12 - Being Halted with lines 4 & 6 changing which resulted in a second hexagram of 8 - Holding Together. Below is only a portion of the commentary on hexagram 8 which I thought many might possibly find of interest.
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True again. ACIM is some of my favorite hearsay regarding Christianity although the language is sometimes patriarchal and at times a bit cryptic. A small section in the back is just titled Jesus - Christ. Since we’re on the topic,,,, I’m having a laugh thinking that I may be playing Devils advocate this evening on the topic of Jesus Christ,,,, https://acim.org/acim/clarification/jesus--christ/en/s/856?wid=toc 5. Jesus – Christ 1. There is no need for help to enter Heaven for you have never left. ²But there is need for help beyond yourself as you are circumscribed by false beliefs of your Identity, which God alone established in reality. ³Helpers are given you in many forms, although upon the altar they are one. ⁴Beyond each one there is a Thought of God, and this will never change. ⁵But they have names which differ for a time, for time needs symbols, being itself unreal. ⁶Their names are legion, but we will not go beyond the names the course itself employs. ⁷God does not help because He knows no need. ⁸But He creates all Helpers of His Son while he believes his fantasies are true. ⁹Thank God for them for they will lead you home. 2. The name of Jesus is the name of one who was a man but saw the face of Christ in all his brothers and remembered God. ²So he became identified with Christ, a man no longer, but at one with God. ³The man was an illusion, for he seemed to be a separate being, walking by himself, within a body that appeared to hold his self from Self, as all illusions do. ⁴Yet who can save unless he sees illusions and then identifies them as what they are? ⁵Jesus remains a Savior because he saw the false without accepting it as true. ⁶And Christ needed his form that He might appear to men and save them from their own illusions. 3. In his complete identification with the Christ–the perfect Son of God, His one creation and His happiness, forever like Himself and One with Him–Jesus became what all of you must be. ²He led the way for you to follow him. ³He leads you back to God because he saw the road before him, and he followed it. ⁴He made a clear distinction, still obscure to you, between the false and true. ⁵He offered you a final demonstration that it is impossible to kill God’s Son; nor can his life in any way be changed by sin and evil, malice, fear or death. 4. And therefore all your sins have been forgiven because they carried no effects at all. ²And so they were but dreams.³Arise with him who showed you this because you owe him this who shared your dreams that they might be dispelled.⁴And shares them still, to be at one with you. 5. Is he the Christ? ²O yes, along with you. ³His little life on earth was not enough to teach the mighty lesson that he learned for all of you. ⁴He will remain with you to lead you from the hell you made to God. ⁵And when you join your will with his, your sight will be his vision, for the eyes of Christ are shared. ⁶Walking with him is just as natural as walking with a brother whom you knew since you were born, for such indeed he is. ⁷Some bitter idols have been made of him who would be only brother to the world. ⁸Forgive him your illusions, and behold how dear a brother he would be to you. ⁹For he will set your mind at rest at last and carry it with you unto your God. 6. Is he God’s only Helper? ²No, indeed. ³For Christ takes many forms with different names until their oneness can be recognized. ⁴But Jesus is for you the bearer of Christ’s single message of the Love of God. ⁵You need no other. ⁶It is possible to read his words and benefit from them without accepting him into your life. ⁷Yet he would help you yet a little more if you will share your pains and joys with him, and leave them both to find the peace of God. ⁸Yet still it is his lesson most of all that he would have you learn, and it is this: ⁹There is no death because the Son of God is like his Father. ¹⁰Nothing you can do can change Eternal Love.¹¹Forget your dreams of sin and guilt, and come with me instead to share the resurrection of God’s Son. ¹²And bring with you all those whom He has sent to you to care for as I care for you. (ACIM, C-5.1:1–6:12)
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@kieranperez True. When discovered the Gospel of Thomas provided some more circumstantial evidence ,,,,, Another interesting possibility or perspective is Jesus’ lost years. 12 - 29 years old. Some say he had Teachers in India and possibly traveled to Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_years_of_Jesus
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Behold Yourself by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen Instead of focusing on the tiny speck of negative in your brothers and sisters, look at the ocean of light and love coming from them. Each and every one of them is a cherished and fully worthy child of God. Each and everyone have the love of God within. Don’t see it in others? Then you don’t see it in yourself either. You think of yourself as unworthy. See it in a select group, but you don’t see it in all? Then you are denying the truth. The truth is real whether you choose to see it or not. The sunlight of God’s love is there, in all, even when obscured by dark clouds of fear, guilt and anger. Brush the clouds away in your mind. And see the light and love and goodness in all your brothers and sisters. Behold your Self through the eyes of love.
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Zigzag Idiot replied to roopepa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My ACIM Teacher in 2015 happened to be a secular Jewish psychotherapist. Near the end of the Course he told me that the second time through ACIM it occurred to him that if he had to sum up the ACIM in one word, it would be ‘forgiveness’. Some recent thoughts about guilt in my journal. I was unable to bookmark. I became depressed for a while today. Reflecting on what a shit I’ve been at times in the past brought it on. Not a distant past either. Kind of a mixture of recent and distant occasions. Fell into self criticism I guess, actually. I don’t feel I’m any improved for putting myself through that. Along with the useless self criticism though was something else. Remorse. The Oracle of the Cosmic Way points out the fallacy of guilt. With guilt we only put poison arrows in our psyche. These poison arrows perpetuate a fate that keeps the whole thing going. More or less it says the idea of sin and guilt is just plain bullshit that divides people against themselves. If we’re out of balance with the Cosmos, remorse of conscience can make the necessary adjustments. No need for a permanent stain of guilt that only cripples us psychologically. To me it jives perfectly with what Jesus is teaching in ACIM. Forgiveness or overlooking of grievances. Letting go of grievances. Not holding grudges. Not getting caught up in the glue-like stickiness of self-criticism or guilt or judgment or keeping score. No need for keeping accounts or seeking merit either. Everyone is innocent in a sense. Even Hitler. Just let go. Go beyond. Metanoia? -
Bump @abrakamowse You’re very welcome! Crunched analogy. Grace and understanding via Metanoia by way of Kenosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metanoia_(theology)
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An effective practice Suddenly, just don’t care.
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The post above was composed on the fly. Yesterday after getting out of bed and eating breakfast. Still half asleep while listening to the Almaas clip while also reading about primary narcissism from the glossary I got hit again by the profundity of these elements being tied together. It may be off in a way and could have written it a little better but I’m just letting it stand as it is. ——————————————————— Back when I was a Zen Devil It goes out especially to all of you who battle with one another over veganism, vegetarianism, or a diet consisting of meat. This was a poem written by a former Teacher. At the time, I was pretty much a Zen Devil, using today’s lingo. This was the last time I saw Dwight in person in 2005. I think he copied this down when he excused himself for a bit while he went to the restroom. Looking back on it I realized this was his way of neutralizing the atmosphere of tension that existed. Prior to this visit he had been pushing my buttons quite a bit which is what a good spiritual teacher will do from time to time for different reasons. Well, here I was in his house, and kinda being a dick but in mostly passive ways. Dwight was a really conscious human being in addition to being a really good artist. For those for whom it matters Dwight was vegan. His life had not been especially life easy because he admitted to me he had struggled with alcoholism for much of his life and three years prior to me meeting him he had lost his wife to cancer. Having learned that I had never read the spiritual classic BE HERE NOW he insisted on giving me an old copy he had. Folded and stuck into the book was this poem which I later found. I drove away that day still with a bit of attitude though. He waved as I left and had during the afternoon long visit, been a gracious host. Not once in any way displaying any kind of negative emotion. Below is an essay written by Dwight about Esoteric Christianity I shared a few months ago.
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Oceanic experience - primary narcissism - primordial presence nonbeing the other side of being Following this trail of breadcrumbs facilitates understanding and an increase in Being. IMO, what’s being offered here is a parallel process to that of a certain partial process of awakening and Self realization reflected in the following condensed explanation. First you must Awaken, then you die, then you can become a twice born.
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Nirioonossian World sound Over the last few months I had noticed a drop off of hearing the chorus of crickets that began about 2017. Today I did a NN Dmt trip. As soon as I was emersed in that world/state of consciousness I noticed a return of that phenomena with quite a loud volume. As I write this, it is still with me quite loudly. I like it. It’s a peaceful sound. Synchronisticly, I encountered this website a few months after it originally began. http://humanityhealing.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Cerebellum-and-the-Alta-Major.pdf
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Zigzag Idiot replied to Gesundheit2's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
An idea that caught on with me is that we have to develop a healthy ego before it can be transcended. Maybe I heard Ken Wilber put it that way. The idea is also repeated elsewhere such as the Fourth Way. I just got 2 entries out of 18. Confusion About the Term "Ego" Here we digress to point out a source of confusion about the term “ego.” Readers who know both the spiritual and psychological literatures will find the term freely used in both, but with no general agreement on what the term refers to. This ambiguity often leads to confusion. The literature on spiritual development, on essential or inner development, on all matters of religious concern, generally uses the term “ego” to mean something which is seen as the barrier to spiritual realization. The literature on depth psychology, however, uses the term with a very different meaning. The ego referred to by Freud, and which ego psychology studies, is not the ego which is the barrier to spiritual development. They are two different concepts. The psychoanalytic term “ego” refers, rather, to the functional self, which is the site, organizer, and coordinator of the functions of perception, memory, mobility, and so on. There is, however, a concept in depth psychology and ego psychology that coincides with the ego of spiritual literature: it is called the “ego-identity,” and is sometimes referred to as the sense of self, or the sense of identity. This sense of self or separate identity is the main concern of ego developmental theory. This identity is, in fact, the acme, the most important outcome of ego development. It is ultimately the organizing center of the psychic apparatus. This psychic apparatus includes as one of its units the Freudian ego. In other words, the Freudian ego is part of the mind, is a structure or a structured process in it, while the self is a sense of identity and a center of action. The exact sense in which the ego identity is a barrier to spiritual development will become clear in later chapters. The Void, pg. 9 Object Relations Theory Object relations theory has become the dominant psychoanalytic theory of ego development. Its main insight is that the ego develops, primarily through the integration of early experiences, into organized mental structures. These mental structures, termed ego structures, are systems of memories that have become organized through the processes of assimilation or introjection, identification, integration, synthesis, and so on, into an overall schema patterning the self. The Point of Existence, pg. 54 Taken from https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/ego Other categories in the glossary Ego Ego Activity Ego Alien/Ego Syntonic Ego Boundaries Ego Death Ego Defense Ego Deficiency Ego Development Ego Functions Ego Ideal Ego Identity Ego Inadequacy Ego Life Ego Line Ego Metabolism Ego Self Ego Structures -
Received Pronunciation in the old school style. If I got that right. That’s a new one for me. Thanks for the reply @LastThursday From Sheldrake to the Beatles, Zeppelin and Pink Floyd to Maurice Nicoll to Monte Python. I’ve always been heavy in interest and admiration for things British. I’ve wondered if at some point I might uncover past life memories from that part of the world. Being a descendent of Oliver Cromwell as well. Long live a John Cleese! If You Feed It, It Becomes A Monster by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen Don't feed that ugly emotion. Emotions are like living, breathing creatures. When you act on a negative emotion, such as insecurity or anger, and you do or say the insecure or angry thing, you are feeding the very emotion you don't want. So it grows bigger and bigger, sometimes into monstrous proportions. Then it seems to take control of you and it dominates your life. But if you don't feed it (if you don't act on it, if you don't do or say the ugly thing), it shrinks little by little. So instead, no matter how small they may seem in comparison, you can feed your beautiful emotions (such as security and outward loving and confidence). By doing the secure and loving and confident things, your beautiful emotions are the ones that grow bigger and stronger. Slowly and surely, these positives become the dominant emotions in your life.
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I most always enjoy Rupert Sheldrake’s talks. Here he gets into telepathy and similar topics. Is it a specific kind of regional accent that I’m unaware of that makes him sound so proper? Or just what is it? It goes well with his dry sense of humor, anyway.
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Anthropology Merle Haggard was very stage blue back in the day. Compare it to the video of him and Willie pasted below. Merle’s dead body was put into the earth in 2016.
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I think it’s possible to be quiet and still be responsible. This was a realization I had a few years ago. - “It’s okay to have nothing to say”
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I became depressed for a while today. Reflecting on what a shit I’ve been at times in the past brought it on. Not a distant past either. Kind of a mixture of recent and distant occasions. Fell into self criticism I guess, actually. I don’t feel I’m any improved for putting myself through that. Along with the useless self criticism though was something else. Remorse. The Oracle of the Cosmic Way points out the fallacy of guilt. With guilt we only put poison arrows in our psyche. These poison arrows perpetuate a fate that keeps the whole thing going. More or less it says the idea of sin and guilt is just plain bullshit that divides people against themselves. If we’re out of balance with the Cosmos, remorse of conscience can make the necessary adjustments. No need for a permanent stain of guilt that only cripples us psychologically. To me it jives perfectly with what Jesus is teaching in ACIM. Forgiveness or overlooking of grievances. Letting go of grievances. Not holding grudges. Not getting caught up in the glue-like stickiness of self-criticism or guilt or judgment or keeping score. No need for keeping accounts or seeking merit either. Everyone is innocent in a sense. Even Hitler. Just let go. Go beyond. Metanoia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metanoia_(theology) My sister shared this YouTube with me and I watched it later in the day. This guy makes sense. Has a sense of humor too. https://youtu.be/53RX2ESIqsM
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I’m enjoying a lot of Leo’s short clips. We all lie to ourselves. As unflattering as it is, I still do I have to admit. Do you acknowledge any of your lies that you tell yourself? Do you justify your negative emotions when they crop up? I view expressing negative emotions to be about on the same level as lying. I’m not encouraging the suppressing of them. Just the non-expression of them. There’s wisdom to be gained whenever you’re able to hold your tongue. Do I still express negative emotions at times? I do. Red Hawk uses an interesting expression in his book Self Observation: The Awakening of Conscience. An Owners Manual- which is - “Sometimes I eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats me.”
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I forgot to post Jim’s mini column on Sunday. An interesting one for sure. Her Angry Rash by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen It certainly wasn't all in her head. It was right there on both arms. Red - swollen - broken skin - oozing pus - and it itched terribly. She'd had it for ten years by the time she came to see me. She had been to several medical doctors and taken numerous medical treatments for it, but none gave her lasting relief. After some initial psychotherapy, including hypnosis, the source of the rash came to the surface. There had been a very loud disagreement with her boss at the time, and she had erupted with a kind of hostility that disgusted her and frightened her badly. From that point on, she was too afraid of her own anger to let it come out. So, consciously she didn’t let it come out. Instead, anger had been expressing itself unconsciously by erupting on both her arms. Well, a psychological problem deserves and requires a psychological solution. After some additional psychotherapy, she learned to not be afraid of her anger. The rash soon disappeared. She learned to assert her anger appropriately, without damage to herself or other people, and the rash stayed gone.