Zigzag Idiot

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  1. In the above post where I expressed “mean people suck”. Well,,, I realized this morning that it was a form of expressing negative emotion. I think it’s possible to state that and it not be an expression of negative emotion. I think maybe it’s the felt experience inside oneself as it’s being said that defines whether or not it is an expression of negative emotion.
  2. Mean people suck. Mean people suck. Mean people suck
  3. Descriptive of the formatory apparatus. Mechanical thought by association - defines the thinking process by those who are ‘asleep’. https://digitalseance.wordpress.com/category/gurdjieff/ Deeper into the Work this is laid out for pondering,,,,,, The Jack of Diamonds is the very symbol of the formatory apparatus. The mechanical part of the intellectual center Jacks are the mechanical part of the functions.
  4. There’s probably helpful insights to be gleaned from these YouTube’s but I’m curious why this sits in High Consciousness Resources,,,?
  5. Circumstantial evidence that the vast majority of the U.S. population is fast asleep in the American dream.
  6. @tsuki I like how you’re learning about and opening up the enneagram in ways that I never have. Biospheres symbiosis is a specific term I never encountered. Doing a google search and encountering a website containing many Forth Way concepts. It felt very synchronic to see on that webpage also a link to Jana Dixon’s Biology of Kundalini, http://biologyofkundalini.com/ After pondering a little more I wanted to equate Biospheric symbiosis with Gurdjieff’s descriptive term “Iraniranumange” from his book Beelzebub’s Tales to his Grandson. https://ae.gurdjieff.org.gr/terms/en50/0290.htm I appreciate you providing all this food for thought and hope my intellect is up to the task of interpreting and stepping down the information in the post you just made about the 64 hexagrams of the I CHING.
  7. The Real Stuff Blossoms From Within by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen It can be easy to confuse an inflated ego with real self-esteem. The real stuff grows from inside yourself, and not from trying to be something that you aren't. The real stuff evolves more from your own approval than from the approval of others. If you believe that you are a good anything because other people think you are, then you tend to guide your life by false assumptions. External approval indicates that you have pleased other people; it doesn't necessarily mean you have done the right thing or the quality thing or the thing that makes you feel good about yourself. Sometimes you have to do things that can bring disapproval in order to please yourself, in order to walk the path that’s right for you. When your self-esteem is real, you can manifest good feelings about your own worth as a person. Praise and criticism from others do not put demands on you. Instead, you step back and listen to praise and criticism for the feedback, for the information that is being offered. You’re not afraid to learn; you’re not afraid to change. You can accept yourself as a good human being with flaws, and you recognize that we all have flaws.
  8. I appreciate the version of the I CHING , The Oracle of the Cosmic Way in its assessment on the notion of guilt. The collective ego is mentioned above but just as important IMO is dealing with one’s superego. More or less the internalized voice of one’s parents. Some good excerpts about superego in the following link. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/superego
  9. Exactly @Waken In addition to being forgiving towards others another main idea conveyed in A Course In Miracles is what you just wrote. What some call dissociation. I did a search on an ACIM site and pasted the results below for anyone who may be interested. ⬤T-4.VI Your other life has continued without interruption, and has been and always will be totally unaffected by your attempts to dissociate it. ⬤T-4.VI The separated mind cannot maintain the separation except by dissociating. ⬤T-4.VI You do not recognize them now, but what has been dissociated is still there. ⬤T-5.II His is the glory before which dissociation falls away, and the Kingdom of Heaven breaks through into its own. ⬤T-5.III He may have dissociated the Call for God, just as you have. ⬤T-5.III This dissociation is healed in both of you as you become aware of the Call for God in him, and thus acknowledge Its being. ⬤T-6.II Exclusion and separation are synonymous, as are separation and dissociation. ⬤T-6.II We have said before that the separation was and is dissociation, and that once it occurs projection becomes its main defense, or the device that keeps it going. ⬤T-6.III By teaching peace you must learn it yourself, because you cannot teach what you still dissociate. ⬤T-6.V-B These insane ideas are clearly the result of dissociation and projection. ⬤T-7.V Fear produces dissociation, because it induces separation. ⬤T-7.VI If you dissociate your mind from it you are perceiving the most powerful force in the universe as if it were weak, because you do not believe you are part of it. ⬤T-8.IV It does this simply by dissociating itself from everything. ⬤T-8.V Dissociation is not a solution; it is a delusion. ⬤T-9.VI If it is in you and can produce joy, and if you see that it does produce joy in others, you must be dissociating it in yourself. ⬤T-9.VI Therefore you can create as He did, and your dissociation will not alter this. ⬤T-10.II Unless you first know something you cannot dissociate it. ⬤T-10.II Knowledge must precede dissociation, so that dissociation is nothing more than a decision to forget. ⬤T-10.II What has been forgotten then appears to be fearful, but only because the dissociation is an attack on truth. ⬤T-10.II And you have replaced your knowledge by an awareness of dreams because you are afraid of your dissociation, not of what you have dissociated. ⬤T-10.II When what you have dissociated is accepted, it ceases to be fearful. ⬤T-10.II Yet to give up the dissociation of reality brings more than merely lack of fear. ⬤T-12.VII This leads directly to dissociation, for it represents the acceptance of two goals, each perceived in a different place; separated from each other because you made them different. ⬤T-14.VII You will realize that salvation must come to you this way, if you consider what dissociation is. ⬤T-14.VII Dissociation is a distorted process of thinking whereby two systems of belief which cannot coexist are both maintained. ⬤T-15.I Again the ego tries, and all too frequently succeeds, in doing both, by using dissociation for holding its contradictory aims together so that they seem to be reconciled. ⬤T-19.IV-D Here is your promise never to allow union to call you out of separation; the great amnesia in which the memory of God seems quite forgotten; the cleavage of your Self from you;--the fear of God, the final step in your dissociation. ⬤T-21.V Yet any part of knowledge threatens dissociation as much as all of it. ⬤W-96 Dissociated from its function now, it thinks it is alone and separate, attacked by armies massed against itself and hiding in the body’s frail support. (acim.org/acim/chapter-15/the-holy-instant-and-special-relationships/en/s/194) Taken From - https://acim.org/acim/chapter-4/the-rewards-of-god/en/s/85?wid=search&q=Dissociation
  10. The method of inquiry in the Diamond Approach involves sitting with states of deficient emptiness. To completely allow them and even with whatever curiosity one can muster, delve into the core of these emotionally difficult states. In doing so, it’s often found that the cause of these “holes” are revealed. This revelation is accompanied by a healing of a split off part of one’s essence. An undoing of the fracture IS the healing in which an ego structure was covering up an aspect of one’s essence. It’s slow gradual work healing ‘one hole of deficient emptiness’ at a time. I’ve paraphrased the process. If you’re interested, the link below will be to a web page with more precise excerpts of this methodology. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/theory-holes
  11. The second force (aka denying or passive force) in the Law of Three as described by Gurdjieff seems to fit as a possibility in this topic, perhaps. Teachers of The Fourth Way often stress that this second or denying force is not necessarily bad or to be seen strictly as negative. An I axiom of this Law states that going against second force only makes it stronger. As in “That which you resist, persists”. For instance, those who struggle with an addiction get a taste of this phenomena. ////////////////////////////////////////// The Law of Three is described by Gurdjieff as "the second fundamental cosmic law". This law states that every whole phenomenon is composed of three separate sources, which are Active, Passive and Reconciling or Neutral. This law applies to everything in the universe and humanity, as well as all the structures and processes. The Three Centers in a human, which Gurdjieff said were the Intellectual Centre, the Emotional Centre and the Moving Centre, are an expression of the law of three. Gurdjieff taught his students to think of the law of three forces as essential to transforming the energy of the human being. The process of transformation requires the three actions of affirmation, denial and reconciliation. This law of three separate sources can be considered modern interpretation of early hindu Philosophy of Gunas, We can see this as Chapters 3, 7, 13, 14, 17 and 18 of Bhagavad Gita discuss Guna in their verses. [25] How the Law of Seven and Law of Three function together is said to be illustrated on the Fourth Way Enneagram, a nine-pointed symbol which is the central glyph of Gurdjieff's system. Taken from- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
  12. As far as inanimate perspectives go. Through realized being and non-local consciousness it’s possible to know what it’s like to be a tire on the front of a car going 70 mph on a curvy paved road in the summertime. Or maybe a rock on the side of a mountain. There are fewer prepositional phrases that way.
  13. I’ve written in my journal sporadically about this issue. Well, it may be on the periphery and informed by a Fourth Way perspective. I feel creative in expressing sometimes. The following are some entries from my journal. Some of which I don’t recall writing but I’ve enjoyed rereading them and through a search, gathering them together for this post. There is a little bit of redundancy between them. We’re two natured beings. Part animal and part angel. Neither one being complete. In the beginning when we think we know we need to recognize that we’re upside down and the certainty of our views need to be reassessed. We become completed beings through solar coating. Our own conscious efforts. We can become wise through lunar coating but to become Self Realized we must undergo through our own conscious efforts, solar coating. Solar Coating polishes off the angelic part of us. In becoming right side up the ego is metabolized by essence with the angel at the helm. Essential realization is just one of many phenomena that’s possible. If you start crying that’s fairly normal. Along with a recognition of a new vividness in perception. We’re two natured beings. Having a planetary body and also an energy or astral body. It is said that Feelings are the blood of the astral body I like the description that when we are thinking dominated, we radiate from the head and when our centers are balanced, we emanate from the heart center. I’ve made peace with being especially dense from time to time on certain days. Years ago this caused me a lot of insecurity and further confusion. Through understanding, I was able to let most of that just go. Maybe it was the other way around? I let it go and then achieved some understanding. I don’t know. Understanding comes about through beginners mind and maybe vice versa.,,,? When the emotional center is purified and we are free from guilt and also don’t overthink everything, we perceive accurately with our feelings. Feelings become intuition and eventually become clairvoyance. The energetic (astral) body as well as our planetary bodies have signature vibrations. Almaas describes us as fields of impressionability. For me, this aligns with Conscience being defined as the intelligence of the universe The difference between uncontrolled imagination and creative imagination. The way I understand it, purification of the emotional center is the key between creative imagination in Causal realm manifesting and magical thinking run amuck in our uncontrolled thoughts and day dreams produced by undisciplined 'monkey mind'. W e"re two natured beings. The kedsjan (Astral) and the energy body in which the physical body dominates with its own wants and desires. As Terence Mekenna says "We are angels who have a Siamese twin who is a monkey growing out of our chest." Purifying the emotional center gives the Astral body the capacity to be able to boss around the physical body with the 3 lower chakras sometimes referred to in the Work as the Automaton. "This is the difference between us and the angels. Angels are perfectly made and, therefore, naive and stupid; they can only do what they are made for. Humans have many more possibilities. There is more joy in heaven for one perfected human being than for a thousand angels." - Ocke de Boer
  14. I rarely watch or listen to the news anymore. That’s one reason I didn’t hear about the death of ZZ Top Bassist, Dusty Hill, a few days ago. Billy Gibbons plays lead and sings. Frank Beard plays drums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Hill Billy Gibbons confirmed that ZZ Top would continue with Elwood Francis, the band's longtime guitar tech, on bass, per Hill's wishes.[22] According to Gibbons, "Dusty emphatically grabbed my arm and said, 'Give Elwood the bottom end, and take it to the Top.' He meant it, amigo. He really did."[22] - From Wikipedia
  15. Before transcending ego we have to develop a healthy ego to transcend. Try to take the long view when you start to feel overwhelmed. It’s easier said than done. Avoid reaching conclusions. Reaching conclusions quickly makes one miserable. At times, everyone projects onto others. Study psychological projection. Try to observe and catch your own projections. Projection is involved in a good deal of what in the Fourth Way is called Inner considering. Abandon self criticism. Of course all of this is easier said than done,,,, I was going to paste the song Perfect by the Artist Pink. YouTube wouldn’t let me though because it’s age restricted. Here’s the clean version. Four poems by Arnold Keyserling Meaning You will come to your senses and discover yourself, when you finally and forever abandon self-pity and self-criticism. Authenticity Complete honesty requires a clear acknowledgement of your own style. The New People will recognize one another by their authenticity and the values that they embody. Truth Only that truth which is recognized by all can become a fellow-being. You should grow up around your grievous mistakes like a tree, and let them be, until one day they become a part of your strength, and they no longer hinder your ascent. Thinking is a force, feeling leads to new motivations. Remain receptive to both and truth will become attainable. Truth is that knowledge which becomes one with being. You will become one with being when all of your burdens and loves, objects and fears, sorrows and joys have found their place in the whole. Sorrow No one would make the decisive step without sorrow and doubt. But taking that step has nothing to do with sadness. It is shed like the skin of a snake. The darkness is able to generate the right reason, one more difficult, but also better, than the next. But it will not always be so. Some day love will shine upon you. Then sorrow will simply be the undertone of the resulting harmony. The path is there from the very beginning. Sometimes it is easier, sometimes harder. But one thing is essential: the depth emerges from the strength of sorrow. Without sorrow there is no course; without the course the path is not passable. Mourn – not over the self – but over what is yet to be done. Each day brings further sorrows, and eventually you will reach the original cause of sorrow. Then you can finally begin the ascent back. Rejoice in your sorrow, for the darkness will not remain with you much longer. From - https://schoolofwisdom.com/visions-and-poems/ And lastly, every now and then - Be Outrageous !!!
  16. In the spirit of the Socratic method. I wanted to leave some rhetorical answers as just food for thought to the rhetorical questions. Just for fun! Two people sitting together for hours in silence could be an indicator of two people who have quieted their minds and communicate with one another through the presence of their Being. Couldn’t resist posting this clip about “brother Sez” and “brother Ahl”. Neo Shamanism has practices called non-doing practices which cultivate Being. Boredom is sometimes the result of not being present which is the antithesis of Being. The more one can be present and fulfilled through the practice and art of non-doing the further away from the state of boredom one gets. The ability to give up doing anything and be content and fulfilled is at the pinnacle of achievement in a human life experience on Earth. Ram Dass quoted a Hindu Mystic who stated that death was not a traumatic event at all. Just the opposite. The Mystic stated that when death of the body occurred, it was like taking off a pair of shoes which were uncomfortably tight.
  17. The natural result of Love being the perceptual filter with which the World is experienced is Mercy.
  18. Loneliness by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen When the circumstances of your life are making you lonely… When there doesn’t seem to be a way out of loneliness… it can feel like an attack on your worth as a person. And it can bring an array of negative emotions. You may feel empty, like there is a big hole inside of you where something is missing. You may feel afraid that you’ll never get the friends and love you need. And there are hurt feelings, because you think your loneliness means there’s something wrong with you and if you were a better person, you wouldn’t be lonely. And there can be anger – anger at the world for putting you in this situation, anger toward yourself, anger toward the people who don’t come around to fill that empty place. Now take your mind to the source of those painful emotions. You think it’s the loneliness, but it’s not the loneliness; it’s your interpretation of it. It’s your belief that you’re not worthy. It’s your idea that your inner self is lacking. You have to rid your mind of that junk and walk the path of healing and come to the place of self-worth. Your worth is a given, but you have to give it to yourself; you have to acknowledge your worthiness. In other words, you have to make the truth true in your own mind. The truth is not determined by a lack of other people in your life. The truth does not depend on anything going on or not going on out there. So you correct your thinking and move it to the place where you accept your worth as right and real. You deliberately and intentionally give these thoughts to yourself. This leads you to appreciate yourself, lonely or not. This enables you handle what life brings. Dr. Jim Rosen is a PhD Clinical Psychologist. He is an experienced psychotherapist, hypnotherapist, and couples counselor. He offers treatment for anxiety disorders, panic attacks, depression, relationship problems, self-esteem issues, assertiveness training, anger control, stress management, and overcoming the effects of sexual, physical, and emotional trauma.
  19. I’ve got dry irritated skin this evening. Changing a fuel pump on my grandfather’s Ford pickup this afternoon I got soaked with gas along with getting a face full of it when I disconnected a line. Live and learn,,,, This morning I just received just one hexagram in my I CHING consultation. I’ve pasted only a part of the general commentary from The Oracle of the Cosmic Way.
  20. My vision this morning became scattered as I tried to share it. Here is my partial expression of it anyway for whatever it’s worth. Concepts to ponder while listening to the above from Bruce Lipton In A Course In Miracles it states - This is a course in mind training (ACIM, T-1.VII.4:1) In the Fourth Way it is taught that Conscience is buried in the subconscious. Bruce Lipton quoting Einstein- “The field is the sole governing agency of the particle.” A.H. Almaas - Defines the soul as a field of impressionability. Awakened Conscience allows objective consciousness. Seeing the truth can be painful and cause the ego to die. Three steps and three components physical - emotional - intellectual Awaken, then die. Be born again. The impermanence romantic love is because the intellectual-emotional complex is not grounded in the body. It is two centered awareness. The law of Three states balancing the three centers results in a fourth manifestation. This is how we get Teflon coated and become creators as well. This is Three centered awareness. Balancing the three centers bestows the capacity for creating and perceiving existence through Love. Marianne Williamson quoting ACIM - “Forgiveness is Remembrance.” If you’ve warmed up to my chaotic notes above you may enjoy the YouTube I pasted below.
  21. I misspoke here. This is from the first page of my journal. Being is not who I am. Being is something I have. It is only through 3 centered awareness that I can have my being and through that, possibly increase the being I have when the mind is in the heart. The degree of Being we have constantly fluctuates. This is something for everyone to verify for themselves.
  22. Growth hierarchies and dominance hierarchies. Greens refusal of all hierarchies disturbs the practicality of those in blue. It understandably creates confusion and fear and throws gas on the fire of the culture war. Ken Wilber makes other points here that could also be elaborated on.
  23. The willingness to be paradoxical is also a sign of inner security and strength. The Guts to Need Somebody by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen She was having a hard time but didn't "need anybody," she said. She believed that "needing somebody is a weakness." She was mistaken. Needing somebody is a sign of being able to trust. It's a sign of allowing love in and allowing yourself to really love another. Needing somebody is being strong enough to admit your humanness, i.e., that you can handle life better if you add the wisdom and know-how of other people. Needing somebody is having the guts to open up and be emotionally available to the ones you care about. It's being secure enough with yourself that you expose your imperfections. Needing somebody is a sign of inner security and courage. It takes a secure person to give your heart into the hands of another. It takes courage to rely on someone else. When something is difficult to do but you do it, or hard to achieve but you achieve it, then it is an indication of strength.
  24. Leo’s latest video encapsulated in a song. This will be difficult for some to sit with or not roll your eyes. I’m not looking for responses to this post because of the intrinsic message that I don’t need your damned validation but if you feel you have to respond then go ahead. There’s a part of my inner child that’s just a mean little shit.