Zigzag Idiot

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12 minutes. Hans is entertaining to listen to. He has an interesting take which I think meshes with everything posted. Not that it matters. Just another interesting perspective.

From the writings of Paramahansa Yogananda: “Even though you may be able to do everything else but meditate, you will never find joy to equal that which comes when the thoughts are silent and your mind is tuned to the peace of God.” I read Yoganandas Autobiography of a Yogi a couple of years ago. He practiced Kriya yoga. He was a mystic who said the second coming of Christ would be the spread of Christ Consciousness. Jim Marion wrote Putting On The Mind Of Christ. Ken Wilbur wrote the forward.

To me this one goes peanut butter and jelly with the Self deception videos and Mankind is the bullshitting animal video. In my study of A Course in Miracles the idea of forgiveness and all it's many aspects Seems to be the #1 theme. This idea of distraction though is in the top 10 themes in ACIM. Dissociation is the term used in ACIM, again and again,,,,same thing as the idea of keeping ourselves distracted so we don't have to 'deal with ourselves' or to feel the every-which-way-ness of our Conscience.

@positivevibes you're helping me to see myself like you wouldn't believe!?

It was a relief to me in reading that basically,,,we are all schizoid. Or rather the personality itself is constructed on it. Basically, the personality/ego is a barrier to the realization of ones being. Sense of Separateness of Ego is Schizoid The truth is that the sense of separateness of ego is a schizoid phenomenon, but it is usually experienced in a mild form. The ego boundaries are a manifestation of the schizoid sector of the personality, of which no ego is devoid. The schizoid experience becomes intense and more manifest, and therefore more visible, when this separateness is challenged. The separateness of ego individuality is the outward, usually acceptable, manifestation of ego’s schizoid characteristics. The markedly schizoid character is basically a personality crystallized around this sector of the ego. In the process of essential realization, the issue of ego boundaries is resolved by dealing with the schizoid sector in one's personality, among other things. It is one of the most painful to deal with, but not necessarily the most subtle. Pearl Beyond Price, pg. 398 The Deep Fear of Every Ego We see, however, that not only for the schizoid character, but for every ego, there is a deep fear of being completely devoured and absorbed. This is not due only to difficult early object relations, as in the etiology of the schizoid character, but due to the vulnerability of primitive ego structures in the face of Being. This must be the case at the time in ego development when internalizations are just beginning to be set up. The identification with Being is still strong at this time, and these early and primitive ego structures are probably easily absorbed at times of complete letting go and relaxation. It is reasonable to assume that at such times the primitive infantile ego must experience repeated absorptions. This in turn assumes that the nondifferentiated aspect of Pure Being is part of the undifferentiated matrix of the neonate; but this seems like a most reasonable assumption in view of the universal experience of those who experience this realm of Being, that it was “always already there.” It is understandable that at such times the ego will first resort to schizoid defenses, especially those of withdrawal and isolation, not from object relations, but from the omnipresent sense of Being. This makes the schizoid sector of the personality the deepest core of ego structure. Pearl Beyond Price, pg. 452 excerpt from good article ,,,,,,,,,,,There exists a group of psychotherapists, in some of the more liberal population centers around the country and the world, who see their orientation not as the treatment of mental disorder but as the helping with personal growth and development. This has largely developed from the late sixties and early seventies, when modalities like gestalt therapy, encounter, body works of various kinds, and various methods aimed at the development of the human personal potential became popular in certain areas, and amongst a certain group of therapists who were not contented with the traditional role of therapy as the treatment of mental disorder. This has become what is called now the growth movement or orientation, sometimes mixed with new age elements. This orientation has been going through a development in the last few years, mostly under the pressure of clients needing more focused psychotherapy, dealing with disruptions due to abuse, trauma, addictions, stress syndromes, and various kinds of ego weaknesses as they manifest in stressful life circumstances. The result is that most of the growth oriented therapists are focusing more on these needs, namely, on treating mental disorder, but with a growth orientation. https://www.diamondapproach.org/public-page/spiritual-work-and-psychotherapy very important,,, smile relax crack jokes when possible

Deeper Possibilities that Spring from the Ocean of Consciousness Empathy is generally seen as the ability to know another’s point of view, the ability to relate to what your friend is saying, feeling, or thinking because you have had the experience and can call it up in your memory. It stimulates the sense of knowing from your own experience, which you can then apply to how another person might be feeling. But empathy can go very, very deep, much deeper than this psychological way of knowing the other’s experience. We can actually feel where someone is without having had their experience, because our consciousness is ultimately one ocean. A wave in the ocean is not separate from the other waves. We can feel the waves of others and the particular states of those around us as our sensitivity develops. It has been confirmed through neuroscientific experiments that with empathy we can actually experience another person’s pain through the activity of mirroring neurons. Here, we are discussing empathy in a larger sphere, as including all states and feelings of the other, not just their pain. The Power of Divine Eros, pg. 118 ?

Just finished watching Mooji on Christ Consciousness. "There are no opinions here." "Only here, you cannot argue." "Your own heart is its temple." "It is not sterile here." "Imagination is not required." "There is nothing to work out." "There is nothing to heal." "Nothing needs to be done." "It remains unaffected by the body mind." "You can not find it by being super good." "You can not lose it by being super bad." "You can not keep it by any practice." "You can not be you there, the you of this world."

@cetus56 Thanks! I'll watch,,, Here's another good one I just found. He discusses our childhood and cultural conditioning.

I can understand why the Work that has to be done on oneself after some time in Inquiry will look different for everyone. In part because of the different nature of essence types. Over the years I've seen several webpages about essence types come and go. Whats below is from one that is around at present but I disagree with their designation of an "earth" type and the placement or influence of the Solar type. The information on the mars, jovial, Saturn, lunar, Venus and Mercury types correlates with what I've leaned. Im the combined type of Saturn - Mars. Because these are primal energies, they cover not only our personalities in their essence, but also our physical looks, our style of action and our function in life. Each type is associated with the predominance of one or other of the endocrine glands. Pure Types There is a basis of eight energy types, seven of which gave birth to the names of the days of the week. The eighth is Earth. These eight types, illustrated in Gallery 1, are LUNAR Solitary, introspective, detail-minded VENUS Languid, nurturing, sociable MERCURY Perceptive, quick, articulate SATURN Patient, rational, authoritative MARS Goal-oriented, forthright, combative JOVIAL Benevolent, cultured, epicurean SOLAR Radiant, serene, idealistic EARTH Robust, practical, realistic from: http://destinyclemens.com/Destinyclemens/Body_Types.html

Another good idea and headstart I got out of Scientology was viewing the body as an "it" instead of "l". Which is pretty much how I see it today. This was through most of my twentys and I was really going thru the shit. To try to meet my responsibilities I would sometimes think to myself,,,,,Ok, time to make the body get out of bed ,,,, or time to make the body go run a chainsaw for a couple of hours,,,etc. There was a spell before this when I was 19-21 that I was in a deep chronic depression mixed with anxiety and episodes of 'panic attacks'. Rarely left my parents house. Could barely function in society/public. What eventually got me out of this was getting outdoors and then eventually taking on some small work projects. If I had had this forum, no doubt I would have done other things but this was in the late 80's and early 90's. I'm 51 now. That picture up in the corner was taken about 1969-70. There were a few bright spots, but my 20's just pretty much sucked. I went from being an addicted confused mess to joining a cult. Jeez,,,,

In just the short time that I've been here I've come to appreciate your expression of being. I suspect you of being a Mercury (thyroid) body or essence type. Mercurials, it has been said, have a more difficult time in working on themselves than most of the other essence types. I'm not going to say the result of the difficulty because this note could then take on a seemingly harsh tone. Which is definitely not needed now. But the cause of this hypothetical specific difficulty is that Mercury types are the quickest thinkers and the most perceptive of all the types. They see all the little details that others overlook. That's both the blessing and the curse of it,,,,, Good luck to you but please feel free enough inside yourself to change your mind and start posting as usual,,,, tomorrow or next week, next month or perhaps even later today. Metanoia is reversal or putting on a new mind or transformative change of heart. Freedom to spontaneously pick up and use the crutch again if needed without excessive inner considering. Good luck,,,

Everybody means well,,, Judgement divides. Forgiveness unites. My metaphor for forgiveness- A nondual reset button. We exist in nonduality anyhow. It just has to be realized.

A Course in Miracles is described as a transformational curriculum in Self-realization, through forgiveness. "Forgiveness is the means by which we will remember. Through forgiveness the thinking of the world is reversed. The forgiven world becomes the gate of Heaven, because by its mercy we can at last forgive ourselves. Holding no one prisoner to guilt, we become free. Acknowledging Christ in all our brothers, we recognize His Presence in ourselves. Forgetting all our misperceptions, and with nothing from the past to hold us back, we can remember God. Beyond this, learning cannot go. When we are ready, God Himself will take the final step in our return to Him". - From the preface of the book. The seemingly Patriarchal language is a turnoff for many and that's unfortunate. I personally see Patriarchality as the current ruin of the world which is lacking in the feeling capacity of the feminine and overweighted in the predominance of the dry intellect of the masculine. So if this prejudice of seemingly Patriarchal language exists with you as it was with me and is seen past, there are gifts waiting to be received here,,,,, For me also, this book reconciles the former disparities I experienced with Christianity. It's a course in "Self Realization" and is concerned with how one can "have their being". Free online "urtext" of A Course in Miracles http://a.courseinmiracles.com/#gsc.tab=0

2 or 3 years before the Power Of Now. Ken Carey's The Third Millennium had a major impact on me. I'm sure it made me more receptive to Power Of Now. After Power Of Now and during my early Years as a Gurdjieff reader, I encountered Jim Marion's Putting on the Mind of Christ. It really reoriented parts of my understanding. He writes about Psychic Consciousness, Christ Consciousness, Dark night of the Soul, nondual consciousness and lots more. I lost my old copy and bought it again a couple of years ago.

@VictorB02 Welcome, Thanks for sharing. You can do it! Great video. That guy is an inspiration. Ive gone back and forth with Cannabis habit most of my life. Years off then years on, kind of thing. When I've been on a long streak of heavy smoking, Quiting usually involves 10 -14 days of irritability and then I'm 'home free' in a way. This has more or less been the rule. I know everybody differs in this,,,, After a couple weeks, it's not really that much of a temptation because the novelty of increased perception is valued. Like the guy in the video says about the dramatic increase in awareness and energy which happens fairly quick, I can attest to. Graham Hancock was a late bloomer but laid it down after a 24 year daily habit.

Being Right Is the Last Consolation of Ignorance To Awaken is to question every single thing which is received as knowledge and to do so ruthlessly until ideas can be verified by concrete experience. Otherwise I am enslaved by belief and sing another's song like a mocking bird who, though his song is beautiful, is doomed to repeat a borrowed tone, an echo from one who has already flown away. Questioning belief places one squarely alone in the vastness of the unknown, where Inquiry can serve as a guiding light in the Soul's dark night. To question the very self, to doubt it's airtight certainty is to abandon the condition of being right Red Hawk - Wreckage with a beating heart; 2005, Impromptu Book Report trivia Things declared and things implied in Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson: Humanity is in a deep spiritual sleep. chi = Prana = Kundalini rising up through a body with ordinary Consciousness creates a deeper 'spiritual sleep' utilizing ones own imagination in deep yet subtle ways. (Kundabuffer) Leo explains it well in his 3 videos on self deception, by the way,,, Atlantis really did exist and was destroyed by natural disaster ( "second Transapalnian perturbation"). Remnants of Atlantean population and Culture made it to Ancient Egypt and were responsible for the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid. The universe has a diverse population. (Of course) Christianity exisited before Jesus. Most people are born without a completely formed Soul. Once we start forming a Soul, we have a limited number of lifetimes to form it through overcoming narcissism which then allows the natural condition of love/non-duality. Achieving this Awakening takes an enormous effort because of the nature of humanities slumber. Some dogs have more of a soul than some humans. An incomplete soul is bound to this Solar system after death of the body and will eventually disintegrate. Ive yet to reconcile Gurdjieffs teaching about people having only part souls and Leo's body of knowledge. If anyone knows a correlation, please let me know. Also, There is no hell. Yet, earth is a pain factory,,,, Kingdom of Heaven is within same as Kingdom of Heaven = nondual consciousness. Eternal life does exist for 'completed souls'. I welcome comments, questions and criticism on everything I post except my attempts at unfolding the Science of Idiotism. It needs some space around it for it to develop. If I get anywhere with it, then at some point, I'll probably open it up for debate and scrutiny.

You brazen hussy

Or is he yellow who appears orange?

Yeah, excuse me. I understand,,,,, I tend to go off on tangents,,,,,,?

Our thinking is very limited when our feelings are dulled. When our feelings are purified of negativity and judgement. Beliefs no longer have any meaning because a person is then accessing understanding and knowing. It sounds like your intuition is leading you towards truth and becoming freer.

No.,,,,,,? Gurdjieff wasn't a Vegan. Which doesn't matter either way to me. He was just practical. Aquired Conscience juxtaposed with awakened Conscience. Aquired Conscience changes from culture to culture. It's mostly self contradictory moralistic flimsiness implanted by conditioning. Aquired Conscience makes one a slave to group think. This is how people are made into little zombies unable and unwilling to think for themselves. Awakened Conscience is the same in all people, when accessed. It is the small, still voice within which nondual realized Beings access for what's necessary in the moment. Aquired Conscience is the voice of the super ego and the shackles used by religion and culture. Eating the flesh of other beings DOES make people less sensitive and more violent. Vegans and Vegetarians with an unawakened Conscience are often self righteous and piled full of self conflict, negativity and violence in their judgements of others. Just like the ignorant rednecks who ridicule Vegitarians as "snowflakes".

If you encounter a state of consciousness that is more vivid and fulfilling than anything you've ever known and then the Pendulum swings into the negativity and shadow, two things come to mind. Although there are many more than two possibilities here. Both of the ones I'm thinking of have to do with Kundalini and Kundabuffer. If you "fall apart" or off the "edge of the world". You may be entering a Kundalini awakening. If after the pendulum swings and while in shadow the person looks back and is just cynical and dismissive for a few days and then returns into the light of optimism,,,,, That's symptomatic and an indication of having no real understanding of self deception and especially the subtlest of forms of being polluted by our own imagination. This is The consequences of Kundabuffer.I was fooling myself for a long time. That's why I can write things about it. It's very subtle in how it pollutes us. Within the first year that I heard the idea that 991/2 % of everyone is in spiritual sleep. I, of course sincerely felt that I was in that 1/2 %,,, had to be. Life was SO real, at times. And same type of situation in one being a multiplicity; 'man is legion'. That too.,,, I'm special, you know because at times I feel so alive,,, sure I have moods,,, but, everyone has moods,,,,, Here I stayed for years off and on doing Inquiry. Being cooked in an alchemical Kundalini fire can destroy parts of the personality. Some say that is Kundalini's basic purpose. I don't know? It's said in some of the Work literature that we won't be "shown" devastating truths unless one is capable of enduring it. This is the price of equanimity. I'm still making payments from time to time. I'm seriously considering finding a way to do some trippin with 5-MeO-DMT and see where that goes.

"This knowledge was still known in the middle ages when the few remaining secret wisdom schools were threatened by the inquisition. In the year 1299 a group of cabbalists, sufis and artisans (companions, not freemasons), invented a covert means to teach the meaning of the 52, and use it as a means of divination. They invented the deck of 52 playing cards, completely separate and apart from the tarot which was known and condemned by the establishment church. This is essentially the same playing cards known today all over the world. The cards were originally invented and used to create a seemingly harmless facade for their spiritual, "heretical" teachings. With the 52 playing cards they were able to teach the arcana openly in the inns where they met. If the gestapo-inquisition came by, they would pretend it was just a game. At worse they were only guilty of a lesser sin of gambling, not of heresy." -R.C.L. FACE CARDS KING: The start is to have the right livelihood , to have friends of other walks of life, to accept your instincts and needs , and to know in which field you have real mastery. Thus the path to Wisdom starts from mastery, from a position of health and attainment, and goes to the Ace, the unified field of awareness. QUEEN: The mastery and competence should become the status, a profession respected by others. You have to accept your place in society and family and become a personality , visible and desirable to others, being honest, sincere and trustworthy, not hiding any weakness. JACK: Due to our brain structure we learn our whole life. The starting point is work. By working to make things better, you evolve, make progress and join a team working to the same end. Out of this group effort your belief system improves and your faith is born. This will lead to fulfillment in your Spiritual Path . NUMBER CARDS (10) - In the depth of your Self, the core of your Being, you have the vision of ideals to attain. This vision gives you hope and the courage to strive: Beauty for sensing, Truth for thinking, Goodness for feeling, and impartial Justice for willing. Justice, not in the Roman, but in the Chinese interpretation: finding your right place in the cosmic order and in the golden chain of being. (9) - The striving for these infinite ideals enables you to plan and invent your own future projects. You program your own human computer, and carrying out your inventions as scriptwriter, producer and actor. You plan your life software, putting in additional time, linking it up with your dream , and thereby find the link to the muses , the inspiration. (8) - You then accept full responsibility for your dream and position. To do this, and act consciously as a leader, you must be able to explain , and to create appropriate methods or rituals for common action. You learn to trust the beyond, your angel , and your inner voice. (7) - Knowing your stand you have to fight for your values, even to death. You have to take the initiative. Remain open to questioning and assertions , nobody is ever totally in the right, the devil and evil are an invention of power people. You have to realize that forces of nature help you to find your individuation by way of omens and agreements, getting help from the nature spirits , the elementals. (6) - Whoever has real power can communicate , discuss and make statements in dialogue, instead of argument. You thereby establish the right priorities and link your own work with history and the ancestors . (5) - Having thus fulfilled your public and social duties, you turn to your own life. You start to have deeper insights into your self and your way, to discern more and more clearly and distinctly. You qualify and fine tune and analyze your statements about reality. Knowing your norm , your competence never transgresses it. In this way you find your true human identity . (4) - The real human will be able to take their wishes, their true desires as positive motivations. They will see them in their totality, in mental representations, and balance them in the center. Then you will develop the right strategies to attain them, just like any animal, trusting your communion with their world and attain wisdom in acting. (3) - The wishes will lead you again unto the way of knowledge, to study, the pursuit of knowledge of what really interests you. You will then gain a better understanding of others and yourself. As you do you will strive to discover your highest potentiality, your archetype , to evolve, trusting in natural growth like a tree. (2) - The tree has flowers, your capacity to create will grow and flower like the mature tree. If your conception is large enough, if you adapt to the prevailing conditions and take the technological world as your field of actualization, then you and others will be able to relate to your creations. (1) - Finally, knowing that you are not the creator, but only His tool or transmitter, you will let the force of healing flow to you. You will trust in your overall grasp of the whole in absolute confidence that it will never lead you astray. This will lead to a complete opening to the east, the voice of continuous revelation , the spirit of the times. You will attain the Ace of Spades - the symbol of true wisdom. Your journey to full wisdom will be complete. From: http://www.chanceandchoice.com/course-overview/the-human-computer/