Zigzag Idiot

Years ago Arnold Keyserling said something related to this which has stuck with me and at times was helpful in initiating action. He said developing real will is developing the capacity to 'act' for no reason whatsoever other than just for the hell of it.

Ran across this sampler of Ken Wilbur 10 CD set interview with Tami Simon which I bought right after it came out in the early 2000's. In other parts of the interview he talks quite a bit about Witness Consciousness,,,, great collection,,, It kinda goes with this post I made a week ago,,,

@Trode Welcome We're a mixed bag, here. Good luck with your aims!

This is fundamentalalist Jesusism. At the end, it looks affiliated with desiringGod.org -- Churchianity. No?

@pluto ln the last 3 years I've been encountering elements which have a relation to this idea of patterning. Henri Neumann, Cynthia Bourgeault call the Imaginal Realm what Ken Wilbur calls Causal Body or Awareness. Carrol Anthony refers to the Atomic realm or the realm of the atom as the realm of consciousness. The realm where manifestations and transformations can start.

Valuing Truth or pondering the value of Truth seems to strengthen curiosity. I thought these two Almaas quotes applied: Living Reality Loving Its Own Truth So recognizing and appreciating the fact that motivation is our own personal interpretation of something much more profound, something much more natural, liberates the enlightenment drive to function innocently and purely, without being clothed in the qualities of compassion, love, and service. The enlightenment drive is liberated when we understand how we appropriate its dynamism as our own motivation. The enlightenment drive is the drive of enlightened awareness to become conscious of itself, to manifest and realize itself. In other words, the enlightenment drive is not that we, as individual selves, selflessly love the truth. It is living reality loving its own truth and loving to reveal it. Runaway Realization, pg. 41 Living the Life of Truth To live the life of truth means first to value the truth, and to value knowing the truth. It also means to value the truth such that you make it the center of your life, which means learning to be genuine, authentic, and sincere. At its heart, living the truth is a matter of integrity and respect—for oneself, for others, and for truth itself. The more our life respects and reflects the truth that we know, the more it will take us to ever deeper dimensions of truth, of true nature. There is an interaction, an interrelationship, and an inseparability between understanding the truth and living life. We cannot separate the two. We cannot be ivory tower philosophers and expect to discover truth. It doesn’t work that way, because inquiry is a journey of truth finding that constantly reveals the oneness of Being and life. Our spiritual philosophy must become an action philosophy. We have to let our souls become a manifestation of each truth we discover. Spacecruiser Inquiry, pg. 353

Sounds like Good advice from@Nahm @BIggleswerth How you frame this matches my path quite a bit. Which is practicing 3 centered awareness. Every morning I have to put together three centered awareness. The following is a 3 Centered Prayer/Meditation that I use. You can leave off the “Lord Help Me”; “Lord Help Us”; “Lord Have Mercy” if you choose and it still works ,,, Become aware of the natural flow of your breathing for a few breaths, noting the sensation or presence of the physical body as the air comes in and goes out. Relax the body as you breathe out. Let a feeling of gratitude or wonder arise. Relax into a feeling of gratitude or wonder for life or for whatever you may feel gratitude for. Do this for a few more breathes. For the next few breaths, say inwardly “I”, as you inhale, breathing with the intention of taking in finer energies or substances in the air and feeling a connection to Higher help. When you breathe out say inwardly “AM”, with an awareness of your whole body physical presence. Finish in three breaths with Inner words. “Lord Help Me”; “Lord Help Us”; “Lord Have Mercy” The exercise itself is a form of self-remembering — returning from “all these other things” back to myself. Its aim is to practice three-centered awareness — observing (seeing), sensing, feeling. Engaging all three centers and having a sense of whole body awareness is essential. Activating gratitude, wonder, our being, or our own inner poverty and need for higher help — all are good catalysts for self-remembering. ??‍♂️

Had a really low energy day. Stayed up too late last night after being so sick ?over the weekend. Managed to do my two 20 minute sitting meditations. Gave myself permission to be lazy and recuperate.

How about the Placebo effect? Any opinions?

Maybe so,,, I haven't studied much about the idea of the Jungian innocent. I think the fool is a part of all of us which I correlate with the Joker and also the ordinary Idiot in the Science of Idiotism. "This then is the meaning of Ascent and Descent of the Scale of Idiotism. Wherever one finds oneself, one must first 'descend consciously' to the Ordinary Idiot, that is the Idiot with no distinguishing features, no personality, no special powers or properties. Mr. Gurdjieff's understanding of the Ordinary Idiot could not be better exemplified than when he said that all very young children are Ordinary Idiots. Obviously the Gospel saying "Except ye become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter the Kingdom of Heaven" leaps into one's mind." from: https://selfdefinition.org/gurdjieff/quotes/science-of-idiotism.htm

The four times three types and card meanings,,, I hope Ted's preachy cadence doesn't scare you off. When he says something ridiculous, it makes it 10x as funny.

Who is your maximum attraction? I had forgotten about this. It is a film within a film about Essence types. Really good descriptions. At about 10 minutes - 22 minutes in this 50 minute YouTube.

The heart of inquiry ,,,,,,If we observe that our mind wanders and that this causes us to forget about trying to be aware of ourselves in our surroundings, we can make experiments specifically on this condition and see what diminishes it, and what aggravates it. Here too it is important to keep things simple and practical. We may find, for example, that we don't maintain a continuous awareness of our existence with the music blaring or the TV on, while we have better luck when walking down Main Street or weeding the garden. We may not do as well when lying in bed or drinking beer in the easy chair but better sitting in a hard chair or in an unaccustomed position. Or vice-versa. There is no end to the small experiments we can make and, in time, these experiments may produce a nucleus of tools we can use to keep our mind from wandering the way it did when we first set out to control awareness. ,,,,,,, ,,,,,,We need to find others with a working knowledge of this work in order to progress. Working in common with others from the point of view of the work is the only way I know of to see certain aspects of ourselves that we simply cannot arrive at alone. All the more so because we think we can. But we must not become persuaded, convinced, or hypnotized by others. We must actually learn and see a great deal about ourselves, all made possible by this new knowledge applied in fruitful and unbiased group work.,,,,, From : http://www.rahul.net/raithel/otfw/newconsciousness.html

At the very end Wilbur refers to a psychotherapist who was in a position to note that a lot of 'borderline' individuals were drawn to Buddhism to rationalize their states. But this ended up making them worse off. That sounds like a recipe for creating a Zen devils,,,,? No?

I was about to reply to you on my journal. I'm in a lot better shape today, thanks ? Its funny Leo's video had a similar effect on us.,,, Its good to hear you sailed through the turmoil earlier and the day ended up good. "Antidote to exhaustion is wholeheartedness" reminds me of Joseph Chilton Pierce writing in his book Biology of Transcendance about his states called "unconflicted behavior". In these states, he did some things back as a young adult in the 1950's that would make Wim Hof shake his head,,,,

Thank you for having the courage and the security within yourself to say I Love You to everyone. Men for the most part are shut off from their feelings and the ability to express themselves that way. And it's a poorer world because of it.

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In his last video, Leo makes a good argument for practicing Kriya yoga. Although I practice meditation and Inquiry, I'm seeing resistance in myself for taking up Kriya yoga and this is producing some self conflict. I'm just trying to let it be and observe it for now.

I started smoking when I was 14. In my late 30's I finally made up my mind to quit. It was as nearly difficult as quitting alcohol. My grandparents and uncle were the defiant smokers you alluded to. Most of there lives it was glorified in media and the health consequences were always swept under the rug by the tobacco lobby. My cousins who lived in Wichita, Kansas and worked in a hospital overtime were forced out into the cold and eventually forbidden to smoke even on hospital grounds outside. My grandparents felt like smokers were always demonized and scapegoated. Although smoking is very ignorant, there is a part of me that agreed with them. My grandmother is 96 and in the nursing home. She still smokes whenever she can get someone to roll her wheelchair to an outside gazebo. When this generation started smoking is completely different from today. They smoked for most of their lives before the truth really started coming out. The habit was just too ingrained. Not an excuse I know. Young people today who smoke should know better. I can't really judge though. It's a very difficult addiction to overcome. When I quit, I craved smoking everyday for a solid year. Actually, I cheated and fed myself pain pills for the first three months to deal with the anxiety. I got sick of those things and managed to leave them alone and the cigarettes too but it was a real bitch of a year. I learned again that I could endure suffering and eventually things get better.

I've seen it's common for Gemini's to have two different sets of friends who don't know each other.

@Shadowraix I agree. Like people who say they don't believe in God. I don't believe in the God that they say they don't believe in. Likewise with Astrology. If it's viewed as it is in the funny papers, I don't believe in it. When it's viewed as backdrop of influential energies which mix and have self similarities over different scales. Then I begin to believe in it.

Today my consciousness was unsteady in Itoklanoz awareness. I mangaged to consult the ICHING and do a couple of 20 minute sitting, though. Yesterday's stomach virus sickness was intence and strange. Just laying down was exhausting. Sitting up took a concentrated huge effort. Standing up was almost out of the question. It felt like gravity was suddenly turned up 10 times. The physical suffering triggered some lower emotions in my shadow. This resulted in me dropping a shit bomb in the middle of the overall family dynamics, today. Speaking my "truth". I got triggered while hurting and confused. Sometimes I eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats me.,,,, In Fulasnitamnian Awareness, it doesn't matter. Things will grow and heal from the destruction. It may benefit my life situation or worsen it. It doesn't matter. Fulasnitamnian Awareness is three centered awareness. Itoklanoz awareness is two centered awareness or the awareness of the spiritually asleep. What matters is spending more time in Fulasnitamnian Awareness. It's only there I'm capable of really doing greater good for family and others. @1:44:00 in Leo's new video- mentions levels of Consciousness