Zigzag Idiot

To me, skillful means is about the ability to connect with others at a level deeper than words by the use of words. Maybe the ability to console others without them feeling like they're being talked down to but instead as equals, as a friend who is simply saying, " I hear you" or "you're speaking from a place I recognize". There is a fair amount of misunderstandings in the forums. Because of the human condition, it's hard for it to be another way. This kind of friction and misunderstanding in itself, though, can be used as a reminding factor if one tries. A good deal of the time it seems like projections from the ones being spoken to are often the cause for the appearance of this confusion but for the most part it is the lack of skillful means in reaching out or connecting to others which manifests as a 'know it all' or some version of arrogance from the perspective of those being addressed. "Meeting others where you find them" is a term used by Ken Wilbur about skillful means which correlates with recognizing where someone is at in the Spiral Dynamics model and speaking from the level of that perspective. Wilbur also suggests speaking at about a half of a spiral level beyond the other at times to help lead them a little 'higher' in terms of the SD model. There are those in the forum who can run circles around me intellectually but on the other hand, I can often see right through some of their bullshit because of lack of integration. So, in a sense, Being can trump intelligence. Of the many 'lines of development', most everyone has a strong suit or genius in which they can see completely through some parts of everyone else. Today may be wonderful or it may be a shit show. In being, separate from ego/personality, I can recognize where you are speaking from. In that sense, I am you. It doesn't define who you are or who I am. It's just an experience of temporary perspective and simply letting others know that they are heard is often all that's needed. We don't need the seemingly ever present "don't shit on a mad rattlesnake type of advice", but when we get it or see others getting it, the inner friction can be used as reminding factor for the deeper transrational part of oneself that is beyond competition. We can let go and become something larger than simply a reaction to others mechanicalness.

Working with divided attention is crucial for developing Witness Consciousness. Directed attention - Kings. - intellectual center Drawn attention - Queens. - emotional center Dispersed attention - Jacks. - instinctive center There are a handful of categories of attention itself. Is all of your attention gathered up and directed by your will? Or is your attention drawn from one thing of interest to another, maybe sometimes becoming dispersed in trying to handle the flow of the chaotic world? The metaphor of having ones own hermetically sealed atmosphere, that Maurice Nicoll uses, extends to the width of the outstretched arms according to the Shamans of Nagualism, descibed by them as the luminous egg (aura) that seers can see. Having inner quiet means your atmosphere is not polluted by anything outside of it. Just a clean atmosphere that is still and quiet. There can be inner stillness as well even if the barn is on fire. The first step is gathering up all of your attention and then use some kind of concentration practice for maintaining an ability to direct your attention instead of letting it become dispersed or by way of the emotional center, drawn away by some allurement in which there is passion that causes Self forgetting.The capacity to divide the attention to the degree that you're separated from your thoughts and emotions enough to observe them. Presto, Witness Consciousness.

I had just watched this podcast by Martin Butler before I read your earlier post. Just because of the synchronicity I thought I would post it. ?‍♂️

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Focusing on context this morning more than content and particulars. Resting in the peripheral vision instead of direct/predator vision, as practice. Open and spacious. Feeling rather than thinking. Being rather than doing.

Thanks! Good for you in going about it with a degree of balance,,,,, The fact of it not being addictive is reassuring. I appreciate your sharing of experiences.

I'm still in process of acquiring Modafinil. I look forward to seeing how it can help me with getting in touch with deeper levels of witnessing which usually correlates into a capacity for greater continuity. I grew up in a time before adhd and Aspergers were being diagnosed. As an adolescent, it seemed so weird that amphetamines completely calmed me out and then years later I see people getting prescribed Ritalin and such for attention deficit disorder. So, taking this into perspective, I believe it could very well benefit my work on strengthening the witnessing capacity.

I'm pasting a part of a post I made in another Jounal yesterday which summarizes well enough for now, my early disfunction. Completing this short biographical summary. I'm 51 years old but I stunted my personality development as an adolescent due to drug and alcohol abuse. I was almost completely socially dysfunctional for about 18 months around age 20. The salvaged personality I ended up with in my 20's couldn't relax enough to be myself. This just compounded my natural weirdness and made me a disaster at meeting women. As a result, I ended up cynical and hating women for a long time for being objects of desire, that I could not have. This just created a self fulfilling negative feedback loop. This has been healed, though.

It's not until we have inner quiet that we can really observe our awareness. If you can watch your thoughts and emotions with detachment. That's being the Watcher or the witness. How about the quality of 'attention'? Can you direct all your attention on one thing? Or Is the attention dispersed some? Periodic daydreaming? A third category is drawn attention. Feelings tend to draw attention out from under our conscious control. The most important one I think is negative emotion. It's more difficult to maintain objectivity about. We identify with the emotional suffering and start becoming reactive usually. We identify when there is distress,,,,,, understandably, but it's re-entry back into hard duality of good and bad. Being the Watcher has a taste of nonduality, actually, in the sense that one is experiencing a greater feeling of being impartial and of spaciousness or 'oceanic' quality of experience. Experiencing inner quiet and being the detached watcher of thoughts and emotions continuously, usually takes a quite a bit of inquiry to build up the capacity to not get knocked out by life's random shocks. The watcher or the witness is called 'Observing I' in the fourth way which leads to a deeper experience called the 'Permanent Witness.' Ted Nottingham really explains it good. Hope this was some help.

We have a lot in common. I bet you're an adrenal/mars endocrine type. Because of its composition this type has more sex energy than the other types. I'm 51 years old but I stunted my personality development as an adolescent due to drug and alcohol abuse. I was almost completely socially dysfunctional for about 18 months around age 20. The salvaged personality I ended up with in my 20's couldn't relax enough to be myself. This just compounded my natural weirdness and made me a disaster at meeting women. As a result, I ended up cynical and hating women for a long time for being objects of desire, that I could not have. This just created a self fulfilling negative feedback loop. This has been healed, though. What I really had to say was - Expect new realizations in the next few years that will alter your perspective from what it is now. ?Thanks for sharing,,,

A couple of excepts and links to articles on the Strange Attractor Most of us are still right left symmetrical because our left brain so totally dominates the right. We have to shift our emphasis from cosmos to chaos, from left brain dominance, to right brain balance. Then the right is not just an imitation of the left, it is different, unique. The entirely new vistas of data open up to us. The last symmetry is gone and the two asymmetrical sides can then cohere in a new singularity. Right brain coherence comes through receptivity to the workings of the Strange attractors, to constrained chance. In the moments when this is realized, when we are in a coherent flow with the unpredictable turbulence of the World, we have attained the birthright of Man. We have realized the potential to self organize to a higher stage of evolution. As a whole being, in touch with both sides of ourself and others, we transcend the left-right animal symmetry. With two fully developed, yet distinctly different brains, we are autonomous, asymmetrical, truly free from outside manipulation. We have attained a higher inner coherence, a self organization in the midst of chaos. We surf the tidal wave of information – with comprehension, not fear. To animal man we seem like Strange attractors indeed. On the surface, and in the moment, our actions may appear haphazard and foolhardy, but over time the wisdom and beauty of the Human Man will be apparent to all. The beauty of the Information Age will shine! Excerpt from: https://schoolofwisdom.com/fractal-wisdom/meaning-of-the-universe/ God’s dice liberates us from the prison of determinism, the hopeless tedium of the cosmic clock and the inevitable death of entropy. We have instead an intelligent Universe, where ever new and evolving life forms thrive on Chaos, where negentropy creates higher order from decaying forms. The clock is not winding down as the second law of thermodynamics had thought, it is ever being created anew. God is back in the picture, not just as the creator of the machine who then left- the ghost in the machine – but as the Strange Attractor, the origin of inexplicable and unpredictable order from chance. This is a new kind of order, a “fractal order,” based on a relatively few basic structural principals from which many transitory laws follow. The Laws of Wisdom we must learn for the journey to self realization are flexible, evolving. Like the common law, they are articulated afresh moment by moment, case by case.The laws are stable, but they do not stand still. Exactly how the basic principals will apply to form governing laws all depends upon the circumstances, the consciousness involved, the entities, the case. The free will of the individual in connection with the infinite is now primary. All is not determined, everyone has a chance to decide their own fate. The philosophic implications of Chaos are positive and encouraging. The Universe is not a clock, its a game. Enjoy it! excerpt from: https://schoolofwisdom.com/fractal-wisdom/benoit-b-mandelbrot/

About inhabiting the belly center, in regards to three centered awareness, Arnold Keyserling put it this way. The normal way of being for an ordinary person should contain the capacity for occupying the belly center in which you can embody something or completely disidentify from it. Otherwise, people become stuck inside their head and then they're just a poor bastard enmeshed in concepts. A 'poor bastard' being someone who has no inner silence. This has been me for most of my life. His earthy way of putting it made bells go off inside me. If you have ever observed yourself as having this condition of being stuck in the head, you know what I'm talking about. In regards to multiplicity, everyone is pretty much their own ship of fools, each of whom are trying to control the helm. Aside from integration, in Christian Hermeticism, freeing of the guardian angel occurs when the heart is awakened and purified. Looking at the Cosmos through the I-CHING. This same inner process allows assistance from the "helpers" who are defined as individualized aspects of the Cosmic Consciousness and of nature that are neither humans nor Angels. Carol Anthony claimed that divination revealed to her that the identity of the "helpers" are what's known today as the phenomenon of "Orbs". ?‍♂️ Activation of the helpers can only happen when we are in harmony with the Cosmos. In that sense, subservience is just as detrimental as arrogance. The helpers are activated by one's contact with the harmony of the inner truth of one's True Self. Returning to the vocabulary of Esoteric Christianity, I correlate this harmony as one being in contact with awakened Conscience.

I've always had a tendency to throw myself body, mind, and soul into whatever interests me to the exclusion of everything else. So, I can relate very much to your involvement with chess and also really appreciate how you're just observing and giving it space instead of trying to bully a part of yourself. Thanks for sharing,,,,

Taking the zodiac as a general blueprint for the multifaceted individual soul seems like a natural fit. Being overweighted in one of the body Centers seems to often produce a "one dimensional" kind of individual. In hindsight I can apply that to myself. Actually, there are still elements of it otherwise I still wouldn't be doing 'the Work'. This out of balance condition could apply to the twelve as well to the three body centers. These different energies, which may equate to sub personalities often don't know one another that well. To me, this Is a basis for our unintegrated multiplicity. Which is also where the divisions against oneself takes place, often unconsciously. It's a whole lot easier to see this in other people instead of oneself. The self we often take ourself to be is often just a little sliver of the wheel instead of the whole wheel which could represent our fuller potential laying dormant awaiting Actualization. The piece-of-pie-sliver could be the self we take ourself to be which we discover to be nothing but an empty concept of ourself. It's hard to let go of because the familiarity of our own subjectivity. No one is as familiar with others as they are with themselves. It's probably the birthplace of many of our false convictions. The Keyserling wheel has about everything but a lavatory. It contains space and directions, time and elements thereof including the Zodiac, enneagram, I Ching, representation of atomic structure with mathematics, the four Jungian functions. If you knew how, you could probably put in a quarter, and get a bag of ice. Self similarity over scales is a phrase used here often. Implying the spatial realms of the microcosm, mesocosm, and macrocosm.

That's great!! I need to take on this aim for myself at some point,,,,

We're multifaceted or as Jean Houston put it, myriad minded. Thursday is go to Walmart day.

All of the numbers exactly correspond to my numerology which are in the same order as I use them in my email address. ??‍♂️????‍♂️ I'm the troglodyte.

The divide between fear and love which involves having purpose vs. doubt/fear you describe reminds me of the divide between 1st and 2nd tier in Spiral Dynamics. "The transition from the First Tier of Consciousness to the Yellow level of the Second Tier is a “momentous leap” according to Clare Graves (1974, 2005), when the individual realizes that equally distributing resources among all people and expecting that all humans are equally good and loving creates more problems than it solves." From: http://www.consciousdynamicsllc.com/home/levels_of_consciousness.html

What you say perfectly describes my perspective that I didn't even realize I had until you described it.

11 hours ago, Gog said: 74 (Turkey invades Cyprus) 11 (Tai) 33 (Tun) - just wondering what my options are if i research that creatively i just get: troglodyte? @now is forever said - if i research that creatively i just get: troglodyte? @Zigzag Idiot says, Hey! That's pretty much my email address!!,,,, Isn't that synchronistic,,, or something

2 from Gurdjieff- "Happy is he who has a soul; Happy is he who has no soul, and woe and shit for those who are in between" "To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much."

Just started watching this one. "Like our finger prints, our palm prints are unique, one of a kind. Unlike our finger prints, however, our palm prints can change with age. Sometimes the lines of the hand can change rapidly, relating to a change of life. For instance, Arnold Keyserling observed the lines of the hands of his brother change overnight when his brother's leg was amputated in World War II. The lines of the hand have meaning. They are not meaningless chance - chaos. Nothing is. But you must know the fractal correspondences, the keys to decipher the meaning of the hands. Palmistry as known in the West has lost most of these keys, and as it is now popularly known, is mostly non-sense. Aside from lacking the fractal keys to properly read the lines, most palm reading today proceeds from a false premise, that you can know your future from your palms. You cannot know your future from your palms, or anything else. The Strange Attractor prevents such mischief. You can only get an idea as to your present potentials. The lines are a kind of message from your Higher Self who always knows just who you really are, and what you should do." - From Chance and Choice chapter 7. http://www.chanceandchoice.com/course-overview/energy/ I haven't verified everthing said in this chapter other than the lines of the hands DO move. I've been watching my lines change for 15 years. My 'willing' line seems to change the most and the thinking line is a close second. On my left hand the awareness line changes more than the others. I can feel energy in my hands. According to quite a few forum posts, it's pretty common. With the hand many can sense a warm spot about 1-3 inches above the scalp.

@tsuki Good deal! I'm glad you liked it. It's taught in the Work that self observation is to be done without self criticism which for nearly everyone is a very difficult practice to arrive at. I think the purpose of this is to prevent the almost inevitable tangent that one will veer into when ones inner critic starts having a say, thus derailing the self observation. But to truly see my shortcomings will bring remorse or "conscious suffering". When this occurs, my judgements of others is stopped because in a sense, I feel myself standing in everyone else's shoes. This makes me want to truly forgive my grievances with others. Re: Is there a name in Gurdjieff's teaching that refers to the feeling of resignation when one becomes deeply conscious of his inadequacy and is content in just being? Disputekrialnian-friction maybe, but minus contentment. Perhaps Fulasnitamnian Awareness , which is simply 3 Centered Awareness. Simple, though yet, non-dual awareness,,,