Zigzag Idiot

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  1. @Emerald So true,,,, I call it unintegrated mans yo yo behavior because a plain spoken girlfriend hit me over the head a few times with that remark. It's amazing how different men and women are. Some of this bahaviour I theorize runs parallel with what's referred to as the increasing number of what's called kidults in the last few generations. Don't completely give up on men. IME, Emerald and others shed great light on the matter,,,,
  2. Its a wonderful day!
  3. It specifically sounds like what's referred to as Inner considering from the Fourth Way and its terminology . I've observed it a lot in myself. It's actually a neurotic tendency that one can work on over time.
  4. I enjoy Russell's sense of humor.
  5. 7-17-2019 Just one unchanging Hexagram today. 28 The Preponderance of the Great The ridgepole sags to the breaking point. It furthers one to have somewhere to go. Success.
  6. @Marc Schinkel Thanks! Yes, both funny and informative. "Christianity institutionalized guilt as a virtue"- Alan Watts @ 14:30 referring to Catholicism and Protestantism. "Churchianity" or "Jesusism" as Paramahansa Yogananda humorously put it in his Autobiography. Just 20 minutes into this. Although it's from 2014, it's very good if you're new to Bashar as I am.
  7. As with schadenfreude, I've seen layers of passive aggressiveness in myself. I've seen this a lot in families that are around blue/orange especially. Parents and grandparents in families spreading fear to keep a handle on children. They were raised in fear and guilt and just pass it on. Even among educated people this happens. This never quits creating problems. It requires seeing all the way through to forgive a Parent who is this way. That's a tall order because there is usually several years of anger, guilt, confusion, etc., to work through. Its horrible what family members do to each other. It's just more sleep. Everyone suffers. Everyone is off balance. An Awakened family member can also eventually lead the others out of hell. But sometimes not.
  8. Maybe a degree of Beginners mind is necessary for an ongoing discussion about conscious politics. Similar to the famous phrase - Those who know, do not speak and those who speak, do not know. Arnold Keyeserling once put it- " Not knowing if one is on the way is the best assurance that one is indeed on the way. When someone knows they are on the way, they are on no way whatsoever. @Shadowraix I hope you don't feel ganged up on from these few criticisms because I see thier point. I most always enjoy reading your thoughts. Im bad about straying off subjects myself quite often.
  9. Hats off to everyone doing shadow work and integration. There's wisdom in having a closed Journal for such. This journal is partly a shadow work and integration Journal but it's open for comments and questions unless someone just wants to argue. I hold a lot of things in the 'as if it's true' category and just state things as fact instead of always prefacing all claims with disclaimers of some kind.
  10. I only tell everyone what to do because I can't help it. I'm that kind of Idiot.
  11. 7-15-2019 45 Gathering Together. Lines 1,3, 4, 5 36. Darkening Of The Light For each changing line in an I CHING reading, there is a judgment (summary sentence), and then from a brief paragraph to multiple paragraphs. I've never transcribed the judgement lines before today. I don't think,,,, I've paraphrased the judgement and summaries fairly often though. Hexagram 45 Gathering Together Line 1 - There will sometimes be confusion, sometimes gathering together. Line 3 - Gathering together amid sighs. Nothing that would further. Going is without blame. Slight humiliation. Line 4 - Great good fortune. No blame. Line 5 - If in gathering together one has position, this brings no blame. If there are some who are not yet sincerely following thier inner truth, being firm in what is correct is needed. Then remorse disappears. Hexagram 36 Darkening Of The Light The Judgement: Darkening Of The Light. In adversity it furthers one to hold fast to what is correct.
  12. We project whatever is unconscious in us onto someone else in our environment We can forgive others if we can observe it in ourselves From https://facim.org/online-learning-aids/theory/ Also Leo gives interesting talk on his blog https://www.actualized.org/insights/tapping-into-collective-consciousness everything is Chaos,,,, it's ok
  13. Just realized this needs to be its own topics instead of changing the subject of where it was. Speaking of Spiritual Teachers who also have a depth of psychoanalytic knowledge, I can't understand why AH Almaas isn't referenced more here on the forum. I don't belong to any Diamond Approach groups but I've read just about all of his books. I guess I'm a rogue student of the Diamond approach. His free online glossary is a treasure which for me fills in gaps from other teachings. He's also mentioned with high regard by Ken Wilber. So, why so little mention of this work? ,,,,, @Leo Gura,,anyone? https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/actualization Actualization Involves the Fusion of Being and Living The inner realization and development becomes expressed in life, becomes the source of one’s life, the substance of this life. Everything in one’s life becomes a reflection of this realization, an expression and an intimate extension of it. In this way, realization becomes an actualization. It is not only an inner experience, but an actualized life. Life becomes a continuity of Being, instead of a string of events. It is as if the fullness of the Personal Essence pervades every corner of one’s life, filling it, expanding it, transforming it and authentically actualizing it. One’s Being and one’s life are one thing, inseparable and unified. One is a personal living presence. Living one’s life, doing one’s job and relating to others, are the same as being oneself in the world. Actualization involves the fusion of Being and living. One is simply being oneself, and this naturally translates into the life of Essence. One feels in direct and immediate contact with one’s life and activities. There are accomplishments, achievements, tasks, jobs and so forth, but they are not of the same quality as those activities conducted by the ego individuality. They are completely inseparable from being oneself. One does not achieve for any reason; it is the natural expression and extension of one’s Personal Essence. Achievements are not looked at as ways to gain recognition, love, self-esteem, success, fame, power and so on. They might bring such things, but they are not for such ends. They are merely the natural expression of being oneself, living and functioning authentically. One does not care about gain from success in the world; success in the world can happen, but only as a side consequence of gaining one’s authentic Being. Pearl Beyond Price, pg. 348 Development and Actualization of a State is what is Needed to go Beyond It The process of development is the same thing as the process of unveiling or shedding at the same time. The development and the actualization of a state is what is needed to go beyond it. They are not two separate things. You cannot go beyond self until you actualize self. For instance, when finally you know your true self, you are it, you realize in the same instant that you’ve gone beyond it. You do not need it any more because you’ve got it. That is the hierarchy of needs—when you do not have it, you need it. You must look for it, but the moment you get it, get it completely, you do not need it any longer. It is not exactly that you do not need it any longer; you realize that it is not important. You realize that it is an idea in your mind anyway. But you do not know that it is just an idea in your mind until you get it. The process of the satisfaction of the needs, the totality of the hierarchy, is the same process as the process of unveiling or shedding. So it looks paradoxical but it is really not a paradox; it is the same thing. When I say you need to let go of your desires, how do you do that? You do not let go by saying you are going to let go; you let go by actualizing them, by understanding them completely. In my opinion, there is no other way than by completely experiencing them. Complete understanding and actualization opens the door for transcendence, for Being to take consciousness further. You cannot let go of self until you completely have self. You cannot let go of your own will until you completely have your will. You cannot let go of love until you have love. That is the natural process of penetrating, of unveiling. If we remember that this is a process, that the actualization is at the same time a loss, a going beyond, that will help us to not get so frustrated and suffer so much. Diamond Heart Book Four, pg. 154 Do We Create the Kind of Environment that Supports the Actualization of the Truth ? It’s possible to examine the extent to which our lives reflect the truth we know. What kinds of foods do we eat? Do we exercise? How do we manage our schedules? Do we find out what we enjoy doing and then set about doing it? Do we allow ourselves the rest and the aloneness that we need in order to experience the preciousness of reality? Or do we spend day after day being lazy, procrastinating, living routines that make us miserable? What do we do in terms of our relationships? Do we try to live those relationships according to the truth that we know? Do we apply the experiences we’ve had of ourselves and others and the world, or do we reserve our insights for special occasions? Do we create the kind of environment that supports the actualization of the truth? Or do we believe that it’s sufficient to experience ourselves as precious, and then expect the angels to come and clean our room every day? We’re talking about very practical matters here. We’re talking about applying what we know and what we learn, making the effort, expending the energy to live with sincerity. We do the work, we practice the teaching, every minute of our lives, not only when we meditate or go to a session or a meeting. For example, if we know that we are more in touch with ourselves when we are relaxed, do we try to pay attention so that we’re as relaxed as possible all the time? Do we organize our time and our life so that we minimize confusion and unnecessary activity? So we see that there are practical sides to loving the truth for its own sake. Diamond Heart Book Five, pg. 242 Only with the Actualization of Essence can the Soul be Free, Completely Authentic and Totally Serene The soul can develop before enlightenment, by actualizing many of her potentials, as we see in the actualization of creative and intellectual potentials. Spiritual realization is not the only development, and does not imply or guarantee other kinds of development. Realized individuals, as a result, can be developed in various ways and on many levels in relation to the various human potentials. However, the soul’s freedom and the fulfillment of her deepest longings depend on the realization of her essential potential. Only with the actualization of essence can the soul be free, completely authentic and totally serene. Essence is her true nature, without which she is estranged, lost, inauthentic, empty, and twisted. Regardless how much of her potential she actualizes, regardless how much a genius she becomes, artistically or scientifically, if she does not realize her essential nature her experience continues to be characterized by emptiness and strife, on the same level as most human beings. This is why the wisdom traditions think of their work as the most significant for humanity, as transcending any artistic, scientific, cultural, or intellectual kind of education and development. The essence of the soul stands apart from the rest of all of her potential, for it is the only possibility she has for finding true liberation and fulfillment. The Inner Journey Home, pg. 75 Personalization of an Aspect Indicates that it is a Personal Attainment and Actualization of that Part of One’s Potential Each aspect becomes so deeply integrated that it is no longer experienced as part of oneself, but as oneself. In other words, each aspect becomes absorbed into the Personal Essence. This process is the gradual development of the Personal Essence. It attains the qualities and capacities of each aspect, as the latter is absorbed into it. We refer to this process as the personalization of Essence, because each essential aspect becomes personal as it is integrated and absorbed into the consciousness as a further development of the Personal Essence. Joy becomes a personal Joy, Peace becomes a personal Peace, Truth becomes a personal Truth, and so on. This can be seen in two ways. One way is that the personalization of an aspect indicates that it is a personal attainment and actualization of that part of one’s potential. It becomes recognized as an undifferentiable part of oneself, and not as a state that one experiences once in a while. For instance, the Diamond Consciousness is the capacity for objective understanding and direct insight. At the beginning one has insights once in a while, especially under certain conditions. After this aspect is personalized one permanently attains the capacity for insight and objective understanding. One now uses this capacity whenever it is needed, just as one can use one’s legs to walk whenever walking is needed. It is completely part of who one is. It is no longer a state, but an organ of one’s organism and consciousness. Pearl Beyond Price, pg. 341 Realization of Emptiness in Its Various Grades Leads to the Discovery of Essence and to Its Actualization as the Real Life As the process of the deepening dissolution of boundaries and the related experiences of space goes on (which we mentioned above need follow no absolute sequence), it usually happens that all manner of experiences and realizations not directly involving space intervene. We refer particularly to the experience of essence in its various aspects and dimensions. In fact, the experience of essence contributes greatly to the deepening experience of space. Without the invaluable presence of essence, it is very difficult, almost impossible, to tolerate the loss of the deeper boundaries. The experience of ego death and annihilation is too frightening to allow without the experience of a reality beyond the ego, the reality of Being, our true essence. And in turn, the realization of emptiness in its various grades contributes to the discovery and development of essence, and ultimately to its actualization as the real life. The dimension of space deepens and opens up as the realm of Being deepens and expands. The ultimate experience of space is beyond all concepts, even the concepts of space and Being. This is the experience of nonconceptual reality, the ground of all existence. It cannot even be called an experience. We can call it the Ultimate Space or the Supreme Reality as long as we remember that such concepts fail to reach it. It is the ultimate mystery, where mind cannot go. This ultimate reality, beyond all concepts, is seen then to be one’s true identity, one’s ultimate self. It is knowing oneself without self-image. It is knowing oneself by being oneself. This is self-realization. The Void, pg. 149 Seeing One’s Personal History as the Way One has Been Able to Actualize One’s Personal Realization and Contribution In normal ego development, the mother’s image is internalized, and this provides some basis for a certain kind of satisfaction and connectedness, but only on a superficial level. For true integrated development the Merging Essence must be realized, creating the possibility of the development of the Personal Essence and the sense of being intimately connected to one’s life and achievements. In fact, the Personal Essence is the factor responsible for actualization. When the integration progresses to the essential level one’s accomplishments and attainments become one’s contribution to humanity. It is not only for oneself, and it is not only for humanity. On this level of experience the two are inseparable. One then knows and actualizes one’s true contributions, by the mere fact of living one’s personal life. One’s personal history is now seen as the way one has been able to actualize one’s personal realization and contribution. Personal history finally becomes metabolized in the realization and the development of the Personal Essence. Its fruit is one’s life and the attainments of this life, as one and the same thing. Pearl Beyond Price, pg. 351 The Personal Essence, Developing out of the Soul, is Your Actualization of Your Beingness Here The personal essence, the Pearl Beyond Price, however, is a development; it is something that develops out of the Soul when its center is the true self in this life. It is your actualization of your beingness here. When you experience yourself as your beingness, as your personal essence, you feel that you’ve accomplished yourself—not just yourself in the sense of knowing who you truly are, but by knowing who you truly are you start growing and developing your potential. This is the personal essence—personal, with a sense of beingness. The essential self is the experience of “I”; the personal essence is “I am”—not only my identity and my sense of who I am, but myself as a person, here in the world. That being has many skills and capacities, plus wisdom, understanding, and a certain style of life. The true self can be seen as the source, as the inner God, and the personal essence can be seen as the product or the Son of God. In Christian terminology the true self is the Holy Spirit, and the pearl is the Son. The true self is beyond time and space, but the personal essence is in time and space as embodied Being. They’re two parts of an identity that fit together. Diamond Heart Book Three, pg. 67 User Quote Edit Options Bookmark "To have a free mind is to be a universal heretic." - A.H. Almaas
  14. Yeah I guess that last one was a little silly but I'm often inspired through being ridiculous. I really appreciated the Jeff Buckley song posted up above. Jeff Buckley's voice reminds me somewhat of JD Souther.
  15. From A.H. almaas All Spiritual Work Would be Pointless if There Were Such a Thing as Ultimate Evil As we have seen, each Holy Idea is a characteristic of reality at all locations, at all times, and at all levels. Holy Truth explicates this understanding. Here, we are saying that not only is reality just one presence that is boundless and real, but that it is also positive, blissful, and wonderful. So not only is God one, but God is also wonderful and made of love. The truth, then, is loving and lovable, which is why we say in the Diamond Approach that you must love truth for its own sake. If your orientation is that you love truth so that it will change you and make you a happier person, your orientation is out of sync with how things objectively are; if you see reality as it is, you can’t help but love it. It follows, then, that objectively there is no evil. We see evil only when we perceive reality through a filter. A person who behaves in what we consider evil ways is a person acting through a distortion. In spiritual work, concepts of a devil, of dark forces, of some evil that exists on its own outside of the goodness of reality are considered manifestations of ignorance, both in terms of believing in such concepts and in terms of the manifestations attributed to such forces. All spiritual work would be pointless if there were such a thing as ultimate evil. Facets of Unity, pg. 215
  16. I've enjoyed a few of @winterknight 's Youtubes. @kieranperez I appreciate your no bullshit directness. I'll give his book a read sometime soon.
  17. In the Science of Idiocy there's an ongoing return to Ordinary Idiot. Ordinary Idiot as in - Zen mind is Beginners mind. Zen mind is also Ordinary Idiot. An Ordinary Idiot is free and spontaneous and most importantly, nonself reflective in a neurotic way. Ordinary Idiots don't fall down the spiral of inner considering. Zen mind is Beginners mind is Ordinary Idiot.
  18. Member 672 posts Posted Wednesday at 10:49 AM · Report post On 7/10/2019 at 9:01 AM, moon777light said: If we dont bring mindfulness throughout our daily lives, we might as well not meditate at all. Interesting thought. Lyrics from the song "There's a space I'm looking for I grind all the time 7/24" User Quote Remove Bookmark The kingdom of heaven is within.
  19. Experiencing panic attacks and deep depression years ago along with bad drug experiences are things that broke me open to where I remember saying " I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy ". I had to work my ass off out in the hot weather today. Thought I was gonna have a heat stroke for a bit. Being exhausted from hard physical labor helps to ground me sometimes. I feel that way this evening.
  20. @Preety_India I wish you a return to peace. Christ energy reaches me more in reading A Course In Miracles than the King James Version of the New Teststament. It seems most all of us have to go back 'into the desert' every once in a while. It can really hurt and also be confusing or it is for me when it happens.
  21. @kieranperez I understand. Meant no harm. You're correct that I projected or brought up those categories. I'm reading on Ralstons Pursing Consciousness that you recommended a while back. Am enjoying it,,,,
  22. There's something to be said for the art of living in a minimalistic way juxtaposed to high production/activity mindset. The art of living simply. Easier said than done but I think often overlooked. Who was it that said, " when I got to the top of the ladder, I realized it was against the wrong wall,,,,?