Zigzag Idiot

It takes a very large frame of reference to resolve all the disparities around the subject of psychological projection because it blends with the territory of intuition and inner seeing. Purifying the emotional center is how it's addressed by some. Blood, sweat, and tears are in the recipe. I have trouble expressing the fullness of some notions but this provides me some work to apply back to my responsibilities and creative gestures. What ACIM refers to as creating. Thanks. Words can become such clumsy objects.

@Bill W you just applied some very good third force, bud. @remember I know what it feels like to branded. To have a label put on me. To have to endure an injustice. I bet Charlotte also knows how that feels. Learning to adjust your frame of reference,,,,, suddenly I hit complexity that won't fit into linguistic awareness. So like @Bill W said, hope you stick around.

@DrewNows Thanks for this one above. As the saying goes- I'm as busy as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest today. I feel we think similarly. If you could send me a short list of your favorites from him of what you've seen so far that would be great. Either here or PM. If not, I understand. I'll see them eventually. ?‍♂️

You make some good points. What follows are just my opinions: Patriarchy has declined into a camouflaged pathology. Matriarchy would be just as bad if it magically became rule. Matrifocal structures will evolve in the future. Women will move to the forefront in this new historical age. This will be part of a growth hierarchy which will encourage new ways of being and doing that will surpass more than you imagine in your wildest fantasies as a healthy virile male. And the same with women when they finally catch the idea and let go of the very things which are holding them back. This will be a shift from a dominator hierarchy to a new emerging growth hierarchy. Patriarchy is already dead and ideas of Matriarchy will become passé. Right now at the beginning of this 2150 year cycle of the Aquarian age ( Cosmic month) a Matrifocal world culture is on the cusp of our horizon. Let go and let love and prepare to be blissed out in ways you never imagined. ?

Perhaps she is an embodiment of the message she brings forward. To go forward, despite fear and doubt. That is the Warriors way. For a sorcerer, reality, or the world we all know, is only a description that has been pounded into you from the moment you were born. The reality of our day-to-day life, then, consists of an endless flow of perceptual interpretations which we have learned to make in common. I am teaching you how to see as opposed to merely looking, and stopping the world is the first step to seeing. The sorcerer's description of the world is perceivable. But our insistence on holding on to our standard version of reality renders us almost deaf and blind to it. When you begin this teaching, there is another reality, that is to say, there is a sorcery description of the world, which you do not know. As a sorcerer and a teacher, I am teaching you that description. What I am doing with you consists, therefore, in setting up that unknown reality by unfolding its description, adding increasingly more complex parts as you go along. In order to arrive at seeing one first has to stop the world. Stopping the world is indeed an appropriate rendition of certain states of awareness in which the reality of everyday life is altered because the flow of interpretation, which ordinarily runs uninterruptedly, has been stopped by a set of circumstances alien to that flow. In this case the set of circumstances alien to our normal flow of interpretations is the sorcery description of the world. The precondition for stopping the world is that one has to be convinced; in other words, one has to learn the new description in a total sense, for the purpose of pitting it against the old one, and in that way break the dogmatic certainty, which we all share, that the validity of our perceptions, or our reality of the world, is not to be questioned. After stopping the world the next step is seeing. By that I mean what could be categorized as responding to the perceptual solicitations of a world outside the description we have learned to call reality. A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. Going to knowledge or going to war in any other manner is a mistake, and whoever makes it will live to regret his steps. When a man has fulfilled those four requisites there are no mistakes for which he will have to account; under such conditions his acts lose the blundering quality of a fool's acts. If such a man fails, or suffers a defeat, he will have lost only a battle, and there will be no pitiful regrets over that. * * * A man of knowledge is one who has followed truthfully the hardships of learning, a man who has, without rushing or without faltering, gone as far as he can in unravelling the secrets of power and knowledge. To become a man of knowledge one must challenge and defeat his four natural enemies. When a man starts to learn, he is never clear about his objectives. His purpose is faulty; his intent is vague. He hopes for rewards that will never materialize for he knows nothing of the hardships of learning. He slowly begins to learn--bit by bit at first, then in big chunks. And his thoughts soon clash. What he learns is never what he pictured, or imagined, and so he begins to be afraid. Learning is never what one expects. Every step of learning is a new task, and the fear the man is experiencing begins to mount mercilessly, unyieldingly. His purpose becomes a battlefield. And thus he has stumbled upon the first of his natural enemies: fear! A terrible enemy--treacherous, and difficult to overcome. It remains concealed at every turn of the way, prowling, waiting. And if the man, terrified in its presence, runs away, his enemy will have put an end to his quest and he will never learn. He will never become a man of knowledge. He will perhaps be a bully, or a harmless, scared man; at any rate, he will be a defeated man. His first enemy will have put an end to his cravings. It is not possible for a man to abandon himself to fear for years, then finally conquer it. If he gives in to fear he will never conquer it, because he will shy away from learning and never try again. But if he tries to learn for years in the midst of his fear, he will eventually conquer it because he will never have really abandoned himself to it. Therefore he must not run away. He must defy his fear, and in spite of it he must take the next step in learning, and the next, and the next. He must be fully afraid, and yet he must not stop. That is the rule! And a moment will come when his first enemy retreats. The man begins to feel sure of himself. His intent becomes stronger. Learning is no longer a terrifying task. When this joyful moment comes, the man can say without hesitation that he has defeated his first natural enemy. It happens little by little, and yet the fear is vanquished suddenly and fast. Once a man has vanquished fear, he is free from it for the rest of his life because, instead of fear, he has acquired clarity--a clarity of mind which erases fear. By then a man knows his desires; he knows how to satisfy those desires. He can anticipate the new steps of learning and a sharp clarity surrounds everything. The man feels that nothing is concealed. And thus he has encountered his second enemy: Clarity! That clarity of mind, which is so hard to obtain, dispels fear, but also blinds. It forces the man never to doubt himself. It gives him the assurance he can do anything he pleases, for he sees clearly into everything. And he is courageous because he is clear, and he stops at nothing because he is clear. But all that is a mistake; it is like something incomplete. If the man yields to this make-believe power, he has succumbed to his second enemy and will be patient when he should rush. And he will fumble with learning until he winds up incapable of learning anything more. His second enemy has just stopped him cold from trying to become a man of knowledge. Instead, the man may turn into a buoyant warrior, or a clown. Yet the clarity for which he has paid so dearly will never change to darkness and fear again. He will be clear as long as he lives, but he will no longer learn, or yearn for, anything. He must do what he did with fear: he must defy his clarity and use it only to see, and wait patiently and measure carefully before taking new steps; he must think, above all, that his clarity is almost a mistake. And a moment will come when he will understand that his clarity was only a point before his eyes. And thus he will have overcome his second enemy, and will arrive at a position where nothing can harm him anymore. This will not be a mistake. It will not be only a point before his eyes. It will be true power. He will know at this point that the power he has been pursuing for so long is finally his. He can do with it whatever he pleases. His ally is at his command. His wish is the rule. He sees all that is around him. But he has also come across his third enemy: Power! Power is the strongest of all enemies. And naturally the easiest thing to do is to give in; after all, the man is truly invincible. He commands; he begins by taking calculated risks, and ends in making rules, because he is a master. A man at this stage hardly notices his third enemy closing in on him. And suddenly, without knowing, he will certainly have lost the battle. His enemy will have turned him into a cruel, capricious man, but he will never lose his clarity or his power. A man who is defeated by power dies without really knowing how to handle it. Power is only a burden upon his fate. Such a man has no command over himself, and cannot tell when or how to use his power. Once one of these enemies overpowers a man there is nothing he can do. It is not possible, for instance, that a man who is defeated by power may see his error and mend his ways. Once a man gives in he is through. If, however, he is temporarily blinded by power, and then refuses it, his battle is still on. That means he is still trying to become a man of knowledge. A man is defeated only when he no longer tries, and abandons himself. He has to come to realize that the power he has seemingly conquered is in reality never his. He must keep himself in line at all times, handling carefully and faithfully all that he has learned. If he can see that clarity and power, without his control over himself, are worse than mistakes, he will reach a point where everything is held in check. He will know then when and how to use his power. And thus he will have defeated his third enemy. The man will be, by then, at the end of his journey of learning, and almost without warning he will come upon the last of his enemies: Old age! This enemy is the cruelest of all, the one he won't be able to defeat completely, but only fight away. This is the time when a man has no more fears, no more impatient clarity of mind--a time when all his power is in check, but also the time when he has an unyielding desire to rest. If he gives in totally to his desire to lie down and forget, if he soothes himself in tiredness, he will have lost his last round, and his enemy will cut him down into a feeble old creature. His desire to retreat will overrule all his clarity, his power, and his knowledge. But if the man sloughs off his tiredness, and lives his fate though, he can then be called a man of knowledge, if only for the brief moment when he succeeds in fighting off his last, invincible enemy. That moment of clarity, power, and knowledge is enough. Anything is one of a million paths. Therefore you must always keep in mind that a path is only a path; if you feel you should not follow it, you must not stay with it under any conditions. To have such clarity you must lead a disciplined life. Only then will you know that any path is only a path and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you to do. But your decision to keep on the path or to leave it must be free of fear or ambition. I warn you. Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary. This question is one that only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths, but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you. Before you embark on any path ask the question: Does this path have a heart? If the answer is no, you will know it, and then you must choose another path. The trouble is nobody asks the question; and when a man finally realizes that he has taken a path without a heart, the path is ready to kill him. At that point very few men can stop to deliberate, and leave the path. A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it. On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it. I have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to want to know. The path without a heart will turn against men and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to seek nothing. For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have a heart, on any path that may have a heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel--looking, looking, breathlessly. From: http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan1.html That is why this woman gets it. It's not just about the men.

In Talks on Beelzebub's Tales, Bennett distinguishes four types of suffering - Unnecessary Suffering, Unavoidable Suffering, Voluntary Suffering and Intentional Suffering. Lets have a look at each of these to see if they can help our understanding: The first is Unnecessary Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that we incur because of our unreasonable attitudes and expectations towards others, from our ill-will, hatred and rejection of others, from doubt, possessiveness, arrogance and self pity. In other words, suffering arising from our self-importance. The second is Unavoidable Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that comes to us by accident or from events beyond our control, such as interpersonal conflicts, war, disaster, disease or death. Third, we have Voluntary Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that we take upon ourselves in order to accomplish a personal aim, such as an athlete who disciplines himself to win a race, or a student who labours to get good grades. And finally we have Intentional Suffering. According to Bennett, this would be the kind of suffering that we take upon ourselves in order to accomplish an impersonal or altruistic goal, one that is directed more towards service to others or to the Work, and not for any personal gain. Bennett assumes that this is what Gurdjieff meant by Intentional Suffering. From an article on the second Conscious Shock https://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_is_talk_ae2005.htm

Once you Witness your own projection, It no longer feeds the painbody as it did prior to that.

@remember You serve many here by providing an example of what projection is. Thank You.

There's a scene similar to this in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas that always put me in stitches. I think I shared this Hunter S Thompson documentary a while back unless I just imagined that. Here it is again anyway. https://youtu.be/VlAZV_EsSSE It won't embed. Hope the link works.

A distinction needs to be made here. Two different usages for the word 'mind'. ACIM is not in contradiction with Dr. Robert Morse. They are in alignment. ?

@Bill W I failed the challenge. I'm inspired! ??‍♂️

D @DrewNows I just watched the interview with Dr Robert Morse in your Journal. I'm beginning to share your enthusiasm,,,, It feels like I have about 200 questions that I want to ask you all at once. I'm definitely going to watch more from him! Earlier this evening I watched this one on sugar addiction and it made me consider how much I need a three week retreat. At first I was sitting with my hypocrisy watching the lady above and associating her knowledge with Jana Dixon's Biology of Kundalini. Watching Dr Morse interview in your Journal helped me relax.??

Bump and adding name tags. @Leo Gura and @Emerald Thank you for your work,

Isn't that at least in some instances a form of Conscious Love?

@remember I don't feel understanding between us here. In the meantime, I'm pondering.

? @remember How is this not an example of feeding on negative emotions?

Currently watching although I've been pondering this phrase for the past few days. "The Transcendental Object at the end of time". Could it be the noosphere manifested through the internet? Multiplicity is unobserved, unintegrated, ship of fools. Is Integration the Pearl beyond Price? - authentic, natural, yet multifaceted in being. In shadow work I observe and process the Zen devil I became at times in the past. Eckart Tolle's use of the term painbody is so right on. Zen Devils are puppets of the painbody. They are not culprits. They are victims of an element within themselves starved of love and turned cynical and with me in the past, often vicious. Even an overcompensating viciousness. As a teenager, I completely traumatized close friends with visciousness which destroyed some old childhood friendships.

@remember without gravity, no one is home. When the belly center is fully inhabited and you are free to completely identify with whatever one chooses. You can truly care, if your informed by your embodiment otherwise, you can spin on a dime and let go and not give a shit but still perceive through a perceptual filter of love. Love with a big L. One can be free.

@remember I actually have some advice for you. Try being more lighthearted and not expressing your negative emotions. Don't shit on people. Stop projecting. Feeding on negative emotions and greivences will only increase discontentedness. life is beautiful.

If there is fear, one loses the capacity to play a role or have 3 centered awareness. (Fulasnitamnian awareness) I thought of this while watching both Leo's and Emerald's latest videos. Distinguishing Physical Sensation from Essential Substance The capacity to sense oneself must become so refined that the individual can discriminate between physical sensation and the sensation of essential substance. It is not enough that the mind be quiet. It is also necessary for the body to be sensitive. The mind can be quiet while the body is deadened. The body has to be awakened so that the center of sensing, the belly center, can be activated. The belly center, or what Gurdjieff called the physical center, is the center of sensing for all parts of the body. Its deepest function is the subtle sensing, the sensing of essential presence, that the Sufis call the organ for touch. Touch is, in a sense, the most intimate of the physical senses. The skin must be directly against an object to touch it. There is no intermediary medium, like sound for hearing or light for seeing. So this subtle capacity is a very intimate one. Accurately speaking, it is sensing essence by being essence. It is the most direct way of perception. This capacity of touch, connected with the belly center, is very intimately connected with the embodiment of essence. It is the body center; its mode of perception is embodiment. Here, perception as touch, and being, are the same act. So this capacity is the most important one. Essence with the Elixir of Enlightenment, pg. 130

.I know what it is and then I drink the water of forgetting. You're just like me. Love has no opposite. Love is experienced as Unity therefore nondual. A bit from the preface: The opposite of seeing through the body’s eyes is the vision of Christ, which reflects strength rather than weakness, unity rather than separation, and love rather than fear. The opposite of hearing through the body’s ears is communication through the Voice for God, the Holy Spirit, which abides in each of us. His Voice seems distant and difficult to hear because the ego, which speaks for the little, separated self, seems to be much louder. This is actually reversed. The Holy Spirit speaks with unmistakable clarity and overwhelming appeal. No one who does not choose to identify with the body could possibly be deaf to His messages of release and hope, nor could he fail to accept joyously the vision of Christ in glad exchange for his miserable picture of himself. Christ’s vision is the Holy Spirit’s gift, God’s alternative to the illusion of separation and to the belief in the reality of sin, guilt and death. It is the one correction for all errors of perception; the reconciliation of the seeming opposites on which this world is based. Its kindly light shows all things from another point of view, reflecting the thought system that arises from knowledge and making return to God not only possible but inevitable. What was regarded as injustices done to one by someone else now becomes a call for help and for union. Sin, sickness and attack are seen as misperceptions calling for remedy through gentleness and love. Defenses are laid down because where there is no attack there is no need for them. Our brothers’ needs become our own, because they are taking the journey with us as we go to God. Without us they would lose their way. Without them we could never find our own.

@okulele Thank you! I'll try to check him out soon. Like Marianne Williamson, Gary Renard, who I've both enjoyed plus others I can't think of at the moment who have really devoted large parts of thier lives to studying this. It seems to attract rogue seekers and students like I am with the Gurdjieff Work and AH Almaas Diamond Approach. I appreciate the mention. When I encountered another rogue student of the Gurdjieff Work, Ocke de Boer. I felt blessed 10 fold from his particular articulation of the Gurdjieff Teachings. ?

@Bill W As far as I'm concerned, I welcome all your thoughts and questions about ACIM here on this thread. The version you have seems to mesh nearly 100% with the original. The old original standard combined version was put out by. the foundation for inner peace. If I understood correctly a while back they also endorsed the newer annotated version put together by David Hoffmeister a couple of years ago. It's designed more for long time students but if you felt highly compelled to buy it, maybe you should. It's just that it's a massive book and not easy to carry around. The biggest controversies with a Course in Miracles come from books like long term ACIM student Gary Renard who wrote The Disaperance of the Universe which is a part biographical and intimately connected with ACIM ideas. I would also recommend reading the version you have or the old combined version first and decide for yourself whether to also do the daily practices or not. IMO the daily exercises represent a form of boot camp for strengthening continuity of consciousness. i would recommend looking at the urtext only after you have well begun or finished the edited versions. The interesting thing with it is commentary and critique by Jesus on Freud, Jung and others and the ideas they brought into the world. Other trivial stuff exist like the compulsions which bring about highly identified Quarter horse and thoroughbred race horse owners and enthusiasts and the phenomena underlying it. Hope this makes sense and is some help,,,,

@Bill W I was thinking about creating a Terence McKenna thread in High Consciousness Resources. He's a wizard with off the cuff humorous analogies and metaphors.