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@XYZ Your response tells me you completely missed the point. The point is in the spirit of it.

Master Teacher Cynthia Bourgeault says it’s a common mistake to equate the law of Three and the Holy Trinity. I’m still pondering off and on about it. Maybe these short clips will help give insight. By the way, I’ve wandered away for now from the Secret of the Golden flower. Obviously.? L

@Iiris Rock on! See you down the road,,,

Sort answer - no. on my way out the door. Will give more reply later. Thanks

Getting rid of the phrase Commie blocks' might help its success. I moved into green from orange about the time Hilliary quoted the famous indigenous way; it takes a village to raise a child, years ago She was scorned upon and then demonized. a large % of blue and orange, you can't imagine bad how this made from them puke and rage. Disolve or scale way down the Military Industrial Complew, the pharmaceutical industrial complex, multinational agribusiness of profit on food business with its shareholders. Not let one more family farm disolve and are also declared as tax free for life. And use technology to assist in new ways while this small percentage provides for so many. Hippies Don't usually become good gardners overnight. Pay these unemployed people to just stay home and do whatever, smoke cannabis, build bird houses, have sex, watch game shows, etc.,,, just DONT have babies. Maybe just one or two who past a lie detector that showed they weren't lying. Having some form of stability with agricultural land and farm families, open up all national Forest and government owned land for the ones who tired of city life would be welcome to all those vast spaces in the spirt of land use the native Americans had and include them in the committee about it. When the world population adjusting back down maybe some of on some of these policies. one key element is crucial. No more oops I'm Preggo. The booming world population is really the issue isn't it. There's about 1 1/2 - 2 generations that needs to just stay home and chill out. Why wouldn't they be stimulated with that idea? There would be plenty of new jobs that involved assisting others and making difficult decisions. For the ones who can't sit till. The placeholders of emotional Intellegence are rewarded in some ways we'll Maybe find away to do something better and integral with nursing homes. Empty the prisons for the most part. Im not a mathematician. Does anyone care to do the math on this way of being a global citizen. whether its in the realm of possibility. My gut tells me maybe so. massive amount of subversive art could be used to counteract the media for profit and all the do-gooder public relations and advertising conglomerates. Just spitballing suggest alternitive or adjustments if the spirit moves you.

I was about 10 when that John Denver song came out. The High School boys who hauled hay for my Dad would turn it up loud out in the hayfield and sing along and show out, as the saying goes. ?

@tsuki Please don't think I'm trying to preach at you. I know you're already aware of some of this material. Just wanted to make this as useful as possible for others who may be interested while I'm at it. The philosophy and practices for purifying the emotional center is at the heart of the Gurdjieff Work, also referred to by some as Esoteric Christianity or the Fourth Way elaborated on by his direct students, PD Ouspensky, Maurice Nicoll and also contemporarily Ocke de Boer and Almaas's Ridhwan School Teachings. There are many others but it is mostly these that I draw on. The General Principle ofthe Gurdjieff Exercises The idea is that unless we are actually 'aware of being aware' we are 'sleeping'. Most people, although they believe they are thinking, decisive beings, are in fact slaves to reaction and conditioning. Eventually, being 'aware of being aware' will lead to the experience of what Gurdjieff called Endlessness, or the infinite godhead. The aim of the game then is to remain in a state of being 'aware of being aware' at all times, as a means of reducing our identification with these reactions and acting in a decisive manner in accordance with our actual will, and as means of moving closer to experiencing our true identity, which is unity. An example of a Gurdjieff exercise is to pick a random part of the body, and retain the awareness of that body part at all times, regardless of what we are thinking, feeling or doing. Inner Work Practice Become aware of the natural flow of your breathing for a few breaths, noting the sensation or presence of the physical body as the air comes in and goes out. Relax the body as you breathe out. Let a feeling of gratitude or wonder arise. Relax into a feeling of gratitude or wonder for life or for whatever you may feel gratitude for. Do this for a few more breathes. For the next few breaths, say inwardly “I”, as you inhale, breathing with the intention of taking in finer energies or substances in the air and feeling a connection to Higher help. When you breathe out say inwardly “AM”, with an awareness of your whole body physical presence. Finish in three breaths with Inner words: “Lord Help Me”; “Lord Help Us”; “Lord Have Mercy”. The exercise itself is a form of self-remembering — returning from “all these other things” back to myself. Its aim is to practice three-centered awareness — observing (seeing), sensing, feeling. Engaging all three centers and having a sense of whole body awareness is essential. Activating gratitude, wonder, our being, or our own inner poverty and need for higher help — all are good catalysts for self-remembering. The inner exercise should only take a minute or two (or less) once familiar with the steps and will remain the same each week. Only the time we choose to engage the exercise will change. Each week we will engage this practice at a designated time — usually before or during a routine activity in the day, or while transitioning into a new activity. Basically we repress our emotions or feeling center which results in limiting our awareness and the ability to feel what's going on/with inside of others. The capacity for dividing one's attention is crucial. The following is an excerpt from an Ocke deBoer article. Ocke begins and then quotes this meeting of a work group where Gurdjieff talks bluntly with Madame deSaltzmen. It's an exercise for gathering up one's dispersed attention and getting into a 'collected state'. The result of work is that knowledge becomes understanding. To learn to get our two-natured system (planetary and astral bodies) accustomed to higher states, we have to learn to become collected. To get to a collected state is described in the Transcripts of Meetings by Gurdjieff from 1941-1946. This collected state is the basis for learning to remember ourselves. Gurdjieff: You must do an exercise to be more collected. Learn to collect yourself. Choose a good moment that seems propitious. Sit down let nobody disturb you. Relax yourself. All your attention - all your will is concentrated on your relaxation. You quieten your associations. After - only after, you begin to think.. Mme D: Yes. I try like that and I do not succeed. Gurdjieff: Wait. Do not disturb me - do not interrupt me. You have never done like this. Your explanations prove it to me. After, when you have quieted your associations, only then, begin the exercise - consciously, with all your attention, all your faculties. You represent to yourself that you are surrounded by an atmosphere. Like the earth, man also has an atmosphere, which surrounds him on all sides, for a metre, more or less - to a limit. In the atmosphere the associations, in ordinary life the thoughts-produce waves. It concentrates at certain places - it recedes; it has movements according to the direction which you impart it. This depends on the movement of your thought. Your atmosphere is displaced in the direction in which your thought goes. If you think of you mother, who is far away your atmosphere moves towards the place where your mother is. When you do this exercise, you represent to yourself that this atmosphere has limits. For example one metre and a half, shall we say. Then you concentrate all your attention on preventing your atmosphere from escaping beyond the limit. You do not allow it to go further than one metre or one metre and a half. When you feel your atmosphere quieted, without waves, without movement, then with all your will you suck it into yourself - you conserve yourself in this atmosphere. You draw it consciously into yourself. The more you can, the better it is. To start with, is very tiring. That is how one must do the exercise. Afterward you rest yourself - you send the exercise to the devil. Repeat it afresh in the evening. This exercise is done especially to allow one to have a collected state. It is the first exercise. It is difficult to penetrate into yourself at the first effort. One must compel the atmosphere to remain within its limits - not allow it to go further than it should. It is the first exercise in order to have a collected state. This exercise I have given to everybody. No one has understood what is collectedness, nor given it any attention”... This exercise was given by Gurdjieff for everybody, and it is the basis for learning to remember yourself and it is also the basis for learning how to sense and fill the body, which is extremely important if we want our atmosphere to be detached from other surrounding atmospheres. This detachment will make it possible to become free inside from other people. If we want to coat the higher in us we have to become free from other people. Maurice Nicoll describes it as the capacity to become hermetically sealed from the negativity of the outside world and is something we must do everyday. These short youtubes contributes to these concepts and practices Identification or becoming identified with anything = spiritual sleep Ocke says After a certain point in this Work, we can only grow in being by assisting other creatures whether human or animals in their evolution. To do this we need to forget ourselves and pray for assistance. To pass this work on is not an easy thing. For this striving we need to learn to feel other people and animals. To really feel others is a huge achievement. Our feeling-centre needs to be speeded up for this. It needs to become healthy and independent. In most people the feeling-centre is a wounded animal in need for much attention. Because of these wounds they cannot even feel themselves, so to feel other creatures is very difficult for them. About this striving there is also a saying in esotericism: ‘If those above do not move up, then those below cannot move’. To understand this we need a healthy feeling-centre, a compassionate one. A healthy, independent and compassionate feeling centre is achieved by practicing the being-obligolnian-strivings, and it can therefore act from Conscience. I won't open the can of worms called the being-obligolnian-strivings other than to say there are 5 of them.

I wouldn't mind at all. Just now going offline though, but I'll pick this back up tomorrow. Hopefully I can offer something that's useful. Almaas's Theory of Holes and his teaching about 'sitting with it', whatever it is, until it transforms is one I may l touch on some more. 'Sitting with' triggers the alchemical transformation,,,. More later on.?‍♂️ Reminder to self. Three Centered Prayer and leaping out of one's grave.

"The felt presence of experience."

Purifying the emotional center sharpens intuition which, when continued, becomes the capacity for clairvoyance.

Sitting with deficient emptiness Loss of Essence Creates Deficient Emptiness (Holes) We will see that as each aspect of Essence is lost, a certain hole or deficient emptiness is created. This is then filled by the development of a certain sector of the personality, a part of the personality determined by the particular aspect of Essence lost, and by the specific childhood situation or situations that led to its loss. Essence with the Elixir of Enlightenment, pg. 97 A "Hole" is Nothing But the Absence of a Certain Part of Our Essence Today we will discuss a fundamental idea used in our work here. It’s called the Theory of Holes. Under usual circumstances, people are full of what we call “holes.” What is a hole? A hole refers to any part of you that has been lost, meaning any part of you that you have lost consciousness of. Ultimately what we have lost awareness of is our essence. When we are not aware of our essence, it stops manifesting. Then we feel a sense of deficiency. So a hole is nothing but the absence of a certain part of our essence. It could be the loss of love, loss of value, loss of capacity for contact, loss of strength, any of the qualities of Essence. There are many of them. However to say we have lost parts of Essence does not mean they are gone forever; they are never gone forever. You are simply cut off from them. Let’s take, for example, the quality of value or self-esteem. When you are cut off from your value, the actual experience is a sense that there is a hole inside that feels empty. You feel a sense of deficiency, a sense of inferiority, and you want to fill this hole with value from the outside. You may try to use approval, praise, whatever. You try to fill the hole with fake value. We walk around with lots of holes, but we usually aren’t aware of them. We’re usually aware of desires: “I want praise. I want to be successful. I want this person to love me. I want this or that experience.” The presence of desires and needs indicates the presence of holes. Diamond Heart Book One, pg. 17 https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/theory-holes

I'm intentionally picking out the shortest of these videos to more easily give others a taste of his mind/soul/genius/vision.

@studentofthegame Good point! Sensing the feet can also quiten the mind. To just observe the physical sensation.

Although I appreciate it a lot, I put this one here instead of the High Consciousness Resources so I could push back a little bit. This video is in need of being tempered with an article by Cynthia Bourgeault. http://cynthiabourgeault.org/2019/04/16/anointing-jesus/ "Christ is not Jesus’ last name" as well as the book The Jesus Mysteries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna

This is a link to Intuition quote page. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/intuition There are other good ones. Somewhere he says Diamond Guidance is the same thing as Holy Spirit. In his book Space Cruiser Inquiry.I think.

Intuition is a Process or a Capacity, Not an Ontological Existence Now let us look at intuition. The word intuition is used to describe many different kinds of perception, of varying depth, profoundness, and accuracy. Sometimes intuition can mean a suspicion of a certain truth, a slight glimpse without certainty or clarity. Sometimes intuition can mean a feeling, more or less vague, about something. If we listen to such a feeling, it can lead us to understanding. Sometimes intuition is a hunch, something like a guess but with more of a feeling of certainty or weight to it. These are some of the things we call intuition. There are deeper aspects of intuition: for example, when we somehow know something, sometimes with a feeling of certainty, but don't know how we got the knowledge; we cannot explain to ourselves how we know. Sometimes we know something totally new, but we don't know where it came from, so we say we have an intuition. An intuition sometimes feels like a direct apprehension of a certain truth, but we can't explain how this apprehension occurred. So intuition is usually considered a mysterious process. Like insight, intuition can be about anything—the mind, other people's personalities, relationships, and even our true nature, our essence. However, intuition itself is not essence. It can help us to know essence, but it is a process or a capacity, not an ontological existence. Essence with the Elixir of Enlightenment, pg. 22 Activation of the Subtle Capacities of Perception The descent of peace brings up a new quality of Essence, with all of its properties and capacities to support our inquiry, but it also activates the subtle centers, the subtle capacities of perception. The primary perceptual center is the Black latifa, at the center of the forehead. It is also the center of the operation of the Diamond Guidance itself. During inquiry, the Guidance tends to operate as a presence at the center of the forehead. That is why you get clear and crisp in your head when you understand something. When these subtle perceptions are first activated, intuition means that the experience of knowledge is coming through a quiet mind, which indicates that the Black center is open. You become receptive to insights, ideas, and truths, but you don’t know exactly where they are coming from. You become more intuitive in the usual meaning of the word—that is, you are open to knowledge in a way that you do not understand or directly perceive. What this means, however, is that although you are receiving knowledge as insights from a true inner source of discrimination—what we call the Diamond Guidance—this source is not yet present in your direct experience. Its center and its channel are open, but you receive messages or insights indirectly. Spacecruiser Inquiry, pg. 315

@Commodent I've read some of the other Krishnamurti years ago and only knew vaguely 'about' this one, UG Krishnamurti. Actually somewhere on YouTube I saw his death that was recorded, He was on a friends couch in Italy I think? Anyway,, it may still be floating around. Just opened up the book. Looks interesting,,,,,,and good.

For all Warriors on the path, this entry is meant to be a hang out spot in times of uncertainty, or pain and suffering of any kind. Bookmark it if you think you need to. This hang out place is open for all and everyone, though. Im out of breath,,, just got here. what do all these different signs say? Over here at the edge,,, https://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/exercises_enneachord.htm hmmmm hmmmmhhmmmm. Some of this really makes sense. Sometimes my reading speed is really slowed down. Unexpectedly my frame of reference increases. In the meantime I'll just read some more,,,,

@DrewNows I agree. One problem is I'm just interested in everything! Problem, no problem.?

It takes a very large frame of reference to resolve all the disparities around the subject of psychological projection because it blends with the territory of intuition and inner seeing. Purifying the emotional center is how it's addressed by some. Blood, sweat, and tears are in the recipe. I have trouble expressing the fullness of some notions but this provides me some work to apply back to my responsibilities and creative gestures. What ACIM refers to as creating. Thanks. Words can become such clumsy objects.