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Consulting the I CHING this morning I got hexagram 13. No changing lines,,, 13. Associating with People Ch'ien Li The Judgment: Associating with people in the open. Success. It furthers to cross the great water and to be firm and correct. In this hexagram, the Sage addresses the Cosmic Principle of Re-lating, which principle is observable in a person's relationship with the Sage, and which relationship is defined in Hexagram 4, Youthful Folly. The Cosmic Principle of Relating is defined by one single limitation: "no relationship with the ego." Through firmly refusing to relate to the ego in himself and in others, a person follows what is correct. In this way the "great water," which is a metaphor for the gulf standing between the way of the collective ego and the Cosmic Way, is crossed. "Associating with people in the open" means that one's openness is restricted to another's true self only. We relate openly to others when the ego in them is absent, and withdraw into caution and hesitation when the egos become active. Reserve and caution prevent the predatory and parasitic appetite of the ego from gaining the sustenance (our chi energy) it seeks to stay alive. Observing this restriction also aids, nourishes, and strengthens others' true selves. This is the way the Sage retreats the instant the ego in us is present, and returns the moment we have reached a true humility. When a person observes this limitation in relating to another, he is in harmony with the Cosmos. He also creates duration in his relationships by ensuring that they are based on the attraction that always exists between people's true selves. The retreat of the Sage in the presence of the ego gives the example of how to retreat from others. The Sage, in retreating, calls out to our true self to rally itself to stand up to the ego, to affirm its leadership of the personality. Thus the Sage does not "give up" on us. When the ego in another is dominating, we say the inner No to it, and call on their true selves. This activates the Sage in their presence (which has been shut out) to displace the ego's dominance. Just as we experience hindrances in our relationship with the Sage when we put the Sage up as "special," or higher, or in an opposite way see ourselves as the judge of the Sage, we erect similar hindrances when we relate to others in these ways. The Sage also points out the problems connected with the ideals of fellowship and brotherhood traditionally associated with this hexa-gram. These ideals are the basis of the attempt to create a humanistic society where "men are brothers," as a remedy to the evils caused by factionalism as, for example, during the historical era of the "warring states" in China. Such ideals of a universal order designed to create a "lasting unity among men" are bound to fail because they are man-centered, and thus fail to take into account the Cosmic Order on which all unity is based. They also rule out the Helpers, which are necessary to make unity possible.

Addiction This is one part in how I go about healing an addiction. This may sound like bullshit to some. It may not work at all with some essence or personality types. It’s my addiction and with it my self deception,,,,, and other stuff. Don’t shame a person. Don’t divide them against themselves. It may be the job of parents to see their children through the ability to feel shame. I’m only guessing because I’ve never been a parent. Only a child. Perhaps in arrested development. To be brutally honest. When does shame become a hindrance? Children have a brutal honesty at times which is perplexing and stubborn. Perhaps when shame limits innocent curiosity that stifles growth or understanding does it interfere with higher stages of growth. Are my actions actually malicious? Is there a gray area here between right and wrong that has so many variables in this area that one’s personal sense of propriety require metaphorical binoculars and time for pondering,,,,,? Humans who understand the difference between shame and remorse or regret are being contacted by conscience. Cultivated conscience is different from awakened conscience. The yo-yo of being energy and the fluctuations in awakened conscience are something to be considered. We awaken and then we nap, so to speak,,, Somehow connected with that brightly glaring vision of hindsight,,,,😮 SATIATE, SATE, SURFEIT, CLOY, PALL, GLUT, GORGE mean to fill to repletion. SATIATE and SATE may sometimes imply only complete satisfaction but more often suggest repletion that has destroyed interest or desire. years of globe-trotting had satiated their interest in travel readers were sated with sensationalistic stories SURFEIT implies a nauseating repletion. surfeited themselves with junk food CLOY stresses the disgust or boredom resulting from such surfeiting. sentimental pictures that cloy after a while PALL emphasizes the loss of ability to stimulate interest or appetite. a life of leisure eventually begins to pall GLUT implies excess in feeding or supplying. a market glutted with diet books GORGE suggests glutting to the point of bursting or choking. gorged themselves with chocolate Timing- The individual themselves have to decide this. This decision is connected with a willingness to endure suffering. Having gone through periods of being completely satisfied, an organic, inner will is stimulated to see this through. In chronic depression, the ability to remember the felt sense of happiness is lost in a fog of sorts. That’s been my experience in the past. To satiate with intensity allows one to build a storehouse of fullness in satisfaction that you can contact again through memory. It can be a rather seemingly bland place you contact in the future but nonetheless, it can give you the faint memory that the indulgence you need to get past is a practical necessity to move onward in life.

Two steps forward. One step back. This typifies our growth both collectively and individually. From our mistakes and experiences in learning from them, we gain a more solid understanding. Along the way we may experience our every-which-way-ness. You may find yourself tongue tied trying to explain it to others. Everyone you encounter in life is a teacher. There is no one-time across the finish line enlightenment experience, in actualization. This is true, yet it is not true. But it is more true than not true. In other words, we have small earthquakes.

I’m complaining and it helps nothing. I was arc welding on a corral yesterday and got my eyes burnt from being careless. The effects came on about midnight and are just now starting to recede enough that I can tolerate some daylight. When you have these effects. It feels like the inside of your eyelids are sandpaper,,,, Blinking feels like the pupils are having sandpaper drug across them! I had this condition a few years ago and it’s very uncomfortable. I really shouldn’t be looking at this screen,,,,

Good morning Two YouTube shorts for ya

@Apparition of Jack Here’s another bit from a Joe Rogan interview 3 days ago.

https://m.jpost.com/archaeology/archaeology-around-the-world/article-847207

You know what? I’ll tell you what. That’s James Watt. He was President Reagan’s Secretary of the Interior. That’s what I know now and I’ve known it before this moment also. Here’s what else. I’m a quiet person but I express myself in the oddest of ways in this Journal. Almost like I do with close friends after we’ve been sitting around for a while and it’s too quiet. Just out of the blue say something completely screwy just to see if they have a sense of humor. To laugh is a fairly common reaction from people but how in the hell could I discern if they were to ‘guffaw’ or ‘chortle’? And if they did. I would feel uncomfortable to verbally distinguish whether or not they did guffaw or chortle,,, That’s enough of that. There are many different people on this forum and they are vastly different in ways. Some relate about issues that are of a sober nature,,, Their concerns about different issues and some of them are very personal.. I’ve learned to not disturb these people. Just read what they need to write about and love them from a distance. It may not be love either that I feel but the need to not argue with them may be what I have to wrestle with. For the most part. The way I express myself in this journal is so foreign to how I am in daily life with people in my community,,,, I would almost say this journal would disturb or piss-off a good number of acquaintances or family members. On the other hand, there are a very few people who know me better than others. They would enjoy a part of what I say here or maybe how I express myself. For the most part,,, it’s all lighthearted.

I like animals. I like human beings sometimes. I appreciate honesty.

Excerpts from - Psychological Commentaries on the Teaching of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky INNER TALKING III “In this Work you cannot go far with pleasing self-made pictures of your own nobility or value. When you begin to observe yourself deeply enough, these pictures, these fantasies, begin to change. You know that you yourself are just as bad or worse than the other person. Then I am quite sure from my own experience that a great deal of your inner talking will stop. You do not seek to justify yourself.” V. 2, p. 776 49 YOU HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO BE NEGATIVE’ “Now the Work says you have a right not to be negative...To be able to feel this draws down force to help you. You stand upright, as it were, in yourself, among all the mess of your negativeness, and you feel and know that it is not necessary to lie down in that mess. To say this phrase in the right way to yourself, to feel the meaning of the words: ‘I have a right not to be negative,’ is actually a form of self- remembering, of feeling a trace of real ‘I,’ that lifts you up above the level of your negative ‘I’s which are all the time telling you without a pause that you have every right to be negative.” V. 1, p. 161 BEARING UNPLEASANT MANIFESTATIONS “One sign of Being is the capacity to bear the unpleasant manifestations of others. Why is this a sign of greater Being? The answer is that you cannot do this unless you have seen in yourself what you dislike in others...When you have just criticized someone, go over what you said carefully and apply it to yourself. This neutralizes poison in you.” V. 1, pp. 168, 176

Leo wrote a good piece on self deception. Actualized Quotes #140 By Leo Gura - March 8, 2025 A short while back pondering on the notion of everyone having a psychological blind spot that is mostly seen better by others and particularly that mine was more extensive than people who are more socially functional. In an imaginative conjecture, I posited my self as an expert on the subject of self deception. An inward mirth arose with the realization of the probable ironic loss of credibility. Do you taste the paradox here? With this insight/understanding around self deception there can also be the felt experience of being free from some of the constraints of cultural expectations to varying degrees. But within that also exist traps like justifying or being blinded by one’s own clarity. The landscape is sticky. Similar to the phenomena of guilt and shame, but different. Within our fears and some of the resultant shadows our inner world reflects outwardly the same small worldview. At the present, this notion is mostly an abstract concept more than a particular definite understanding. The I-CHING encourages letting remorse of conscience do its work instead of being trapped by guilt. Forgive yourself. Self criticism can be a bad habit. The stickiness of guilt often perpetuates itself. Forgiving others or letting go of grievances can be accomplished more easily if one can forgive oneself for one’s inevitable mistakes. Just wanted to spontaneously share a little bit here. I may reread this later and comment more.

Here are a few of my picks of random YouTube shorts,,,,, I waste too much time watching YouTube shorts. Oh well,, it’s not THAT bad. I had a good productive day. Tomorrow it’s supposed to rain.

Mars is in retrograde Everyone who reads this is a Liar. 🔥We are all liars. 🔥 Don’t kid yourself. All men are dead, except those who know. All those who know are dead, except those who practice. All those who practice are dead, except those who act. All those who act are lost, except those who act with righteous intent. And those who act with righteous intent are all in grave danger. Remorse will bring conscious suffering, which is seeing and feeling your own mechanical behaviour or negativity and seeing that you cannot do anything about it. Conscious suffering will bring the Work deeper into you and therefore will increase your Being so that Conscience can speak. It will give a constant and unflagging need to work and pass the first threshold. Conscious suffering is the medicine to make the automaton surrender to the permanent witness. - from Higher Being Bodies; Ocke de Boer.