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? Glad to see you on the forum. Thank you for all the pointers some time ago.

@Javfly33 Look at the Work of Byron Katie, maybe, it may help to release the ideas about apparent difficulties. ??

Due to identification with thinking. Imagine, there a big beautiful ocean, but you choose to look only at one little drop, kinda meh. Let go of the apparent drop, you are the ocean. ?

?? @Eren Eeager Reincarnation, souls, densities are all mechanics of the movie (take it with a grain of salt since there wasn't any verification in the direct experience on this side, there is just openness for such ideas, since life is a miracle). The illusion of death, who are you, is pointing to the screen. Everything comes & go, but you are always here & now, you can't disappear, not possible. That's where the end of suffering lies. There is only screen. Peace.

@preventingdiabetes Yep. ?

Nailed it on 2:55 ⬆️

@traveler I dismissed Jim Newman as a good spiritual teacher at the beginning, when there was the ingrained thinking of separation. Now, I can see the beauty of expressed message in any spiritual teacher. It shouldn't be even a spiritual teacher, a "human", life is the teacher, everything is you. You can appreciate the beauty too. Focus on what you like. Peace.

@VeganAwake good one ??

@Javfly33 Time is an illusion, right? So, you never wake up if you think there is true awakening in the future. Sure, try different tools, but you won't realize whether death real or not by asking guys on the forum & pointing who is more awake. Don't stop seeking, but see that "the thinking game" is the game of apparent ego, not actual you. By "thinking game" I mean the game of a desired outcome in the future, a lack of knowledge, blame, fear, guilt, desire to be right, seriousness, etc. You can live fully & joyfully now.

@Javfly33 Yep, Osho is great, laugh lessens the need "to wake up".

@Byun Sean Thank you for the "constructive" feedback. I'll expand a little bit, so maybe it's going to shine some light on what I was pointing to. "Waking Up" does not contradict "Growing Up" path. Not Enlightenment VS Life Purpose, but Enlightenment + Life Purpose. In the OP question, there is an assumption that a person becomes enlightened, that's just an assumption. There is a self realization, and 'self' does not mean a separate person.

@Javfly33 This video comes to mind. Enjoy bro

@preventingdiabetes Waking Up = Growing Up, Not Two. Enlightenment is not personal. Everlasting peace is the screen, any model of ego development operates within a movie.

Indeed, to have a layer you should have something other than a substance of the layer, but there is none. ?

@Chris365 ? Yes, there is only Knowing, one step further, there is only unconditional Loving. ?

@Endangered-EGO ? "Do everything you have to do, but not with greed, not with ego, not with lust, not with envy but with love, compassion, humility & devotion." – Bhagavad Gita "Simplicity is very difficult for twisted minds." – ACIM

@nistake Yep. ? To say it differently: "No unicorn - no unicorn". Perhaps, it makes sense to just stay silent and appreciate the present moment.

@nistake Yep. You may not like it because there is still an apparent 'you'.

@BlackMaze If anything just know your true nature is pure joy.

@Endangered-EGO Love everything. By giving a loving attention you are receiving it. giving = receiving Loving attention heals, dissolves any apparent fear.

@BlackMaze Everything happens just for you to 'wake up' from the dream of separation.

I had a dream about a burning house You were stuck inside I couldn't get you out I lay beside you and pulled you close And the two of us went up in smoke Love isn't all that it seems I did you wrong I'll stay here with you Until this dream is gone I've been sleepwalking Been wandering all night Tryna take what's lost and broke And make it right I've been sleepwalking Too close to the fire But it's the only place that I can hold you tight In this burning house I see you at a party and you look the same I could take you back But people don't ever change Wish that we could go back in time I'd be the one you thought you'd find Love isn't all that it seems I did you wrong I'll stay here with you 'Til this dream is gone I've been sleepwalking Been wandering all night Tryna take what's lost and broke And make it right I've been sleepwalking Too close to the fire But it's the only place that I can hold you tight In this burning house Flames are getting bigger now In this burning house I can hold on to you somehow In this burning house Oh, and I don't wanna wake up In this burning house And I been sleepwalking Been wandering all night Tryna take what's lost and broke And make it right I've been sleep walking Too close to the fire But it's the only place that I can hold you tight In this burning house

Mama take this badge from me I can't use it anymore It's getting dark too dark to see Feels like I'm knockin' on heaven's door Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door Knock-knock-knockin' on heaven's door, eh yeah

@Nahm Godspeed, my friend

@Nahm Nahm, such a Nahm, always wants to bring someone to the band ??