Conceptually-made

yeah you are what you want to be or in other words god ,infinity ,love. Leo doesn’t create dogma, you do. I don’t understand why are u so angry about him.

@Leo Gura Thanks man

@Jennjenn Ok thats interesting. When you say they see people in a vacum. Does that mean that psychologists are too scientific about it. Like dealing just with the symptoms instead of the root cause. Like if that is the case you are right about social work. @Moksha As you have studied psychology do you agree with what @Jennjenn said

@SirVladimir Yeah i had one experience where i became conscious of the groundless nature of reality,infinity and a slight touch of inifinite love. Yeah i see what you are saying but the thing is that most people will never reach those states and there is another way to help them.

@Moksha I am more interested in the general stuff. And what interests me the most are basically traumas and how they cause all sorts of disorders.

@Leo Gura Yeah i see what you are saying i will need to get used to actuality of life haha. The biggest problem i am facing is basically not being supported by my parents. Like i wanted to go to psychology from the beginning but they convinced me that economics is like a safer option and i can do psychology after that. And i found this to be a good reason. But now i am seeing how difficult it is to study something that does not interest me. It sucks not being supported by my parents. It makes me even more scared of failure.

@Jacobsrw Thanks for your explanation really gave me a better perspective i admit i imagined psychology to be more more introspective but yeah i see what you are saying. It is a very statistical and scientific approach and it isn’t necessarily as fun as I imagined it to be. But still the thing that keeps me interested is simply the value of psychology and basically the purpose of its work. i guess I won’t find the perfect college but so far psychology seems like most full filling for me.

@Moksha Well the thing that draws me to psychology is simply the human mind. Its so complex and so interesting when you can see the dynamics you learn in a textbook play out in real time. Also i have had a fair share of difficult moments regarding my mental health and i feel really compassionate to the people and bad about the fact that such a small percentage is even capable of receiving help. i could see myself being a therapist but what i actually see myself doing is helping people on a larger scale. Because no amount of therapists could treat the entire world.

Hey guys. I am currently studying economics but I don’t find it as a right fit for me so i am thinking about going to study psychology as i have been interested in psychological and philosophical matters quite a bit which is pretty obvious since i am here haha. Anyways the thing that worries me with psychology is that enlightenment and nondual experiences are usually labeled as signs of psychosis or some sort of disorder. And I am just wondering how open minded are the academics in psychology really. Like this college is really expensive and i really don’t want to make the wrong choice as it will not only cost me a lot of money but also a lot of time. What i want to know basically is whether anyone has any experience with this and could help me with it.

So today i had a very interesting meditation experience. First of all i haven’t been meditating for almost a year now because of various reasons. But i have meditated and contemplated in the past a lot. So i think i have a pretty good understanding of nonduality. Also i had my first awakening experience about three months ago while tripping on mushroms. But thats another story. Basically just today i decided i really want to start meditating again. I created a to do list for 100 days of meditation. After that i sat down and started meditating and not even 10minutes have passed when my consciousness started shifting in a very wierd way it wasn't like anything i have ever experienced during meditation. I started to feel this presure on my eyes and then everything started to feel much more lucid. Suddenly i wasn't simply aware of the things in front of me but all consciousness around me. It is kind of difficult to explain but yeah... And then i started getting excited and it faded. i think this was a slight taste of nonduality through meditation (but I obviously fucked it up haha). But I never thought your state of consciousness could shift in such a significant way just by meditating. Very crazy I also find it very interesting that i had the strongest experience through meditation after more than a year with no meditation and basically no conscious lifestyle. I think this might me because when i meditated daily amd contemplated constantly i always wanted this awakening soo bad but this was probably the biggest obastacle to it. Anyways i just wanted to share this experience i had with yall.

Has anyone read the book Levels of human existence written by Clare Graves? If so do you think it is worth reading or are the books on spiral dynamics better developed?

Currently i am in high school and i have a bit more than a year left to decide to which faculty i would like to go to. My interests are basically psychology and sociology i especially love work from abraham maslow and the spiral dynamics model. I know i don’t want to study pschology since the psychology that is being taught in universities is way different from the type i like. Now the faculties i am acually considering are economy and sociology. I am thinking about economy because psychology and sociology are very connected with economy. And also because I don’t really see my goal in life to work in any particular job... i want to be a creator for which i think studying economy would be very helpful also i like understanding the systems about how our economy works and how counter intuitive can be. But now the thing is that i am not actually interested that much in acumulating money, manipulating the population, exploiting the system and orange stuff that most of the people studying economy actually are. They are very materialistic i think (i am not saying everyone but the majority ). What i am interested in as i said earlier are more sociology and psychology but i am still not sure if i should chose the faculty of sociology since i think there might be some bullshit taughtand also it doesn’t provide me with the knowledge about how to create my own business. I could also study sociological/psychological stuff on my own which could be even more powerfull since I don’t really see any schools teaching the groundbreaking stuff i am learning through actualized.org and other sources. So i would appreciate if you could help me with that and share what you think about it.

I personally think that surrendering isn’t something you can learn or have a technique for. I think that in order to surrender you must either have a trip so strong to fucking demolish you or to be really developed In the field of non-duality. Which means you have to be willing to face all the darkest fears. You have to realize that all the bad possible stuff is nothing to run away and embrace it. Face it full on at its greatest intensity and not try to feel ok about it.Trying to let go will lead you to even worse places since there is a desire to let go(trust me I’ve been there hahah) i am kind of repeating myself here but still... i hope it helps