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@winterknight a lot of people exposed to the light of the self are still dicks. I was a dick post awakening. Many non dual teachers are. Sexual abuse scandals and all that. He’ll three of my teachers were dickies. That’s not the solution.

@zambize haha

people spam non dual talking points on here like they are revolutionary, I don’t get it. It’s really weird. its done in a very ungrounded out of touch way as well.

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@Joseph Maynor No, you are.... *while tearing up* lol

@Joseph Maynor Tried to use reason to talk about possibilities your not open to, but you just went for the who has the belief shtick so I said nevermind. Let’s move on.

@Joseph Maynor lol. I gave it a shot. Didn’t work. Let’s move on.

@Joseph Maynor know of possibilities, modes of being you don’t know about maybe a better way of putting it. Not a piece of knowledge. The distinction matters, because we aren’t debating opinions. Just saying the human physiology, system and experience can radically shift after one’s shift to non duality. A lot more development is possible. If you want to call it that. Don’t understand what you mean here though.

@Joseph Maynor You know before you heard of non duality. You didn’t know about it, u might have thought well that’s just philosophy. Now ur a basic non dual state or had an awakening, and someone tells you about the eradication of craving. The possibility seems so remote and your limited understanding clashes with it so you cling to your perspective. Which you might even think isn’t a perspective. It is, it was marked by a shift in experience, and the possibility of many further shifts exists.

@Mikael89 was a joke.

Jim Carey in one video said I wish everyone had money so they realise it doesn’t bring happiness. Same is true with non duality. After the honeymoon phase. When the high wears off. A great deal of healing is needed afterwards.

“You already are it, stop looking for it” -Person not in non duality/Person who hit non duality after years of “being it already” themselves

Revolutionary stuff. First time I’ve heard it being put this way.

Lol

Don’t be weird

@Viking My ability to retain information my system seems useful eg in my studies hasn’t been affected. I understand things and people in a much deeper way than before, and more functional than ever before.

@Enlightenment she didn’t measure my gamma waves, said some stuff about other waves but didn’t seem to interesting to me so I forgot. @tsuki thoughts or an internal dialogue is only present when reading and typing things. The average person in non duality is ignorant in regards to many many things on average, eg their own subconscious mind, how deep the traumas they have experienced pre awakening go, how much it shapes their behaviour, emotional states and so on. They merely shed the body identification delusion. Many many delusions remain, and are shed as they progress. So are they just ignorant as well? Well, yes, but of other things. To me a traditional non dual person is just as much up their own ass, and clueless about reality as anyone else though. In regards to the path. Meditate, be consistent, and aim for growth. Wanting to realise something ur not ready for all the time. Leads to frustration, self deceit, fantastical thinking and other nonesense. It will come. Gl

Checked this post one last time before I hit the sack. Will respond tomorrow:) @tsuki

@Aeris like I said in the analogy what you assume is a silent mind due to a lack of reference point is actually extremely noisey. I did some simple pranayama when I had kundalini, but basic meditation is good enough if you have kundalini so not really. Do listen to music and no. I find no gratitude in contemplation of reality. Don’t have a favourite activity really, and feeling helpless when I can’t help people or being confronted with an aspect of reality I still can’t accept fully, subconsciously leads to fluctuations beneath the gross layer that is thought/my internal dialogue. dont understand 5th question and no.

@Aeris yesterday @tsukiI don’t really remember life pre awakening so I can’t tell you how I have changed compared to my pre awakened state. Compared to my early post awakened states. Post awakening I still had immense conscious and subconsious arrogance, very little understanding or clarity of seeing in regaards to others eg why they do what they do, and as a result immense lack of compassion (Genuine compassion out of understanding. Not due to a non dual high. Had those.) I was still emo beaneath the surface, angered, frustrated, it was just easier to deal with. As maharaj once said “the ego still arises for me it just dissipates as soon as it arises.” It was such a state. It felt like that, but in hindsight it only appeared like that because my reference point was severely limited. Let’s use an analogy. A loud stereo that’s always been on during ur entire lifetime being turned down a bit or by a decent amount might seem like it’s close to silence. Yet it is far, far away from silence. Most people in and out of non duality can’t fathom how noisy a calm mind with vasanas really is, until they shed a tremendous amount of them. At a certain volume using the analogy I used my brain stopped being able to consciously thing or engage in an inner dialogue. I couldn’t talk to myself mentally if I chose to. It felt very unnatural if I attempted it. The only time an internal dialogue is present is when I am typing oddly enough. I don’t understand why lol. In regards my visual cortex and imagination. Like my ability to think it’s not at all active like it used to be and I don’t have the ability to day dream, and become engaged in visual thoughts. I do like a good song but it doesn’t do much for me. In regards to psychological feelings. I have them. They are, however, drastically reduced in intensity and some feelings I’m incapable of having. Eg feelings of ill will even in reaction to something, pride, anger (I often feel helpless in a way in its stead.) Hunger is there. Sexual arousal is more like sexual readiness. It doesn’t arouse me, but I can have sex when my member is ready lol. Physical pain wise That’s an odd question. Why would I damage my body lol. I’m not stupid. I have thought that my relationship to pain has changed when I have been in pain eg recently I had some kidney pain because of a kidney stone. Nothing serious doe In response to your synethesia question. Ofcourse. & last but not least I’m more functional than ever. @Preetom Not married, just have a partner, and 28/29;) @tsuki

@Preetom It’s uninterrupted at self realisation. At the beginning of the path I mentioned.

@Preetom That point is what I call conscious realisation. Conscious understanding and realisation serve as a gateway for much deeper understandings, embodiment, the reflection of what’s seen in your subconscious mind, vasanas and so on. A long path still awaits you upon conscious realisation. Many differing levels of depth or stages lay beyond. Separated in Buddhism into the 4 differing stages/10 fetters of enlightenment for example. Progress after the initial conscious realisation isn’t automatically a given either. One person can get stuck at a certain depth due to many factors. One can gain depth at a fast pace. So on and so forth.

@Preetom At what is referred to as self realisation, the dropping of body identification, shifting your awareness from the person to the screen, shifting into non duality.

@Preetom Your idea of the post awakening process doesn’t reflect the reality. Based on my own experience, that of my teachers and other teachers I’ve listened to. eg Theravada Buddhism, ramaji, maharishi mahesh yogi, jan esmann, David spero, sat shree, and many many more.

@tsuki Nothing asides the stuff I mentioned, but yep curiousity and pretty sure I wasn’t. I have changed experientially, mentally and in other ways quite dramatically. Still do. I wasn’t like this before. @Preetom I awakened before psychedelics. Did psychedelics a year and a half/two years after awakening. Doing psychedelics is when shit got weird doe lol. Kundalini, and other sorts of weirdness. One of the teachers I was into at a point in time said your whole life can be yoga. He awoke at 50 with no prior meditation experience nor anything of that sort. Yet he was ripe. He learned what he needed to learn you could say in a way (You can look him up. He is good. Sat Shree is his name.) Years spent in meditation is one factor. Ripeness, due to life, perspective and so on. Are other factors that can delay awakening or speed it up.