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@FredFred consciousness is part of the 12 dependent origination chain that is broken upon the moment of nibbana. It too is a fabrication. A delusion. In Theravada Buddhism at least. Which is the oldest and least distorted form of Buddhism.

@Tony 845 there were 2 non dual teachers that committed suicide. People on here just don’t understand the difference between non duality and liberation. david spero, adyashanti, Anthony de Mello, jan esmann, and many of these people will tell you most you guys are just falling for the “enlightenment pitch”. Liberation does exist but it comes way after non duality or what enlightenment is described as here.

This guy gets it edit: I said this when this post was in Romanian or some language completely. As a joke,.

@Salvijus I think pain is the best teacher. Without the pain and suffering that comes with the releasing of karma or living of karma we do not truly grow. Therefor I doubt the effectiveness of any path that promises too much without the pain. Also if you are given more than you can handle at any given time. You will lose your mind or become suidical. Hence why the qualities and perspective are incredibly important.

@Salvijus If you meditate, are genuine and practice the 8 fold path in an honest manner. The universe will provide you with the initiation needed. If your lucky you can find a good and advanced Buddhist monk that can help you along energetically too, but that depends on your luck. I don’t believe Samyama can possibly dissolve all your karma though. No practice along can. Life put you here to learn, not to hack it with some practice lol

@Salvijus Haven’t heard of Samyama. I don’t really listen to teachers, but sadhguru does have way more knowledge than most teachers. He is also the only person I’ve seen that talks about some phenomenon that has happened to me. Whether I believe he is fully enlightened or not doesn’t matter lol:)

@Salvijus yezzir ❣️

@Salvijus What karma essentially does is it blocks off parts of reality that we subconsciously refuse to look at. Walls is in. In our own little world. The more karma is burned the more of reality is seen. Practices are great for burning karma. If you are ready to look at the karma you have in a sense. If you allow it to come up. If you allow life to force it up from the depth of your being. the 8 fold path or cultivating the qualities it talks about does exactly that. Once they come up. Any sort of practice or just genuine self reflection, closing your eyes, taking a walk. Will do the trick;) As you cultivate these qualities and burn karma you develop more and more until you reach the end. At which point you are an embodiment of what the 8 fold path tries you to develop.

@Salvijus “The place you are coming from, your intention, your perspective, your view, self honesty, awareness and genuinity matter far more. There are lessons you are here to learn. Are you learning them or averting your eyes. Trying to escape and live in a fantasy world. Practices can make you study faster, but if you are not even on the right chapter they can’t take you where you need to go.” Hence the buddhas emphasis on the 8 fold path. To start. Again the 8 fold path, or if they don’t vibe with you. The 4 yogas, yamas and niyamas are an alternative that although don’t have as much depth are a great start.

@Salvijus Yes, but again the focus shouldn’t be on a practice imo:)

@Salvijus No cravings I mean no conscious or subconscious tendencies. The capacity itself to feel tendencies and vasanas. It goes very, very, very deep. You know how non dual teacher say emotions arise but their let go of easily. That’s just a calm state in which all your issues still remain. They just don’t stick. The complete cessation of such arisings. Reactions, and issues In an absolute way is what I call full enlightenment. Ive done a lot of practices. Started with ashtanga, and hatha, then Raja, a number of extreme breathing techniques, breath of fire, kriyas, number of gurus, everything really lol, and they each helped me. Great tools, but don’t attribute any of them to my either my awakening nor the process afterward. The place you are coming from, your intention, your perspective, your view, self honesty, awareness and genuinity matter far more. There are lessons you are here to learn. Are you learning them or averting your eyes. Trying to escape and live in a fantasy world. Practices can make you study faster, but if you are not even on the right chapter they can’t take you where you need to go. Hence the buddhas emphasis on the 8 fold path.

@Salvijus The Buddha and Theravada Buddhism. He is the only person that emphasises the end of craving, and all fear as full enlightenment. Whom I believe to be fully enlightened. I mostly use the buddhas teachings to make sense of what’s happening to me though. Practice wise. I dont really have a practice. My energetic process happens by itself, and is always quite intense. Meditation doesn’t even help anymore. I stopped meditating a while ago. Used to meditate 4-6 hours a day though at one point. Asides from the Buddha and Theravada Buddhism. Zen Buddhism is kind of good but now where near as nuanced and detailed. Very one dimensional. The last modern teacher that helped me, whose teachings I found helpful was sheng yen. That was a while ago.

I did. Back when I did it the inner engineering program and shmbhavi weren’t one thing though. So I took inner engineering. Then shambhavi. At the time he wasnt that big. I also saw him in person once. @Salvijus

@Salvijus He is really not. I watched that video 4 years ago when I was super into him. Was doing his kriya and had a similar idea of him as you do now, and even then I was like... he is a trip. justified it with something I read in his book, that once in a while he needs long intense safhana to get his system in order.

@Salvijus He can say whatever lol, and no he is clearly uncomfortable. Out of rhythm, and his humanity is showing. Normally he has his arrogant know it all face which people interpret as beyond human. It is not. He is in nonnduality. In a crazy state but by no means is he at the end.

@Salvijus Here he seems to be out of form. He also definitely has arrogance issues.

Yayy. I love this guy haha.

Martin Ball. Seems to be suffering from severe insomnia, and in general dealing with some very sever issues. He has taken a temporarily leave from his job, stopped doing interview and everything to focus on himself. To get through this event. If we do not learn from people we will make the same mistakes they have made. Copious amounts of psychedelics use, and severely altering your state and the way your system works through the use of external substances. Will obviously have a drastic affect on your system. Anything with such drastic affects done on a regular basis will have dramatic affects on the body, and not all good. Common sense really. Martin. Who mind you is the only person that’s touted as enlightened via the use of entheogens is dealing with such a backlash to his system. If you remember in the beginning on his awakening he also just had dmt visuals for 3 months instead of sleeping. That might sound Deep and fulfil a fantasy for some reading that story, but if you really put yourself in his place he was on the verge on going insane. Dont play around with your psychological health like that. It’s sad to see what martins going through, but good to learn from. If you have glimpsed even a bit. Take that “message” as Alan Watts said, and work on it. Adopt a healthy approach.

Craig Holliday had a very intense and long kundalini awakening. I recommend talking to him. look him up.

You seem to be quite lucid in your approach and understanding. Out of curiousity why are you on this forum?

@Juan Cruz Giusto ❣️

@Jack River no idea is an idea to most people unless they have awakened. I don’t understand why you aren’t getting that. It’s a bit odd.

You can’t fake it until you make it in spirituality. And ? @Serotoninluv

@Jack River Never said it wasn’t. Pointless to say it is though. The truth factor of statements and ideas are not as relevant as the impact and growth factor of them. An idea or statement is only as useful as its impact on your experience, sufferingn and so on. Otherwise it’s just philosophising.

What you are is not the issue. What you see, what blinds you, what fogs up your vision is.