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Unbelievable! Have you guys ever heard of “Projecting your thoughts, ideas, beliefs and imagination etc.???? Consciousness and awakening is an individual sensation (for lack of better words) that no one can claim is better or worse than someone else’s. Your thoughts, ideas, imagination, beliefs and feelings create your reality. “Your Reality”! One of the best teachings I received thus far on my journey is, “Never give your POWER away to anyone”. You can learn from others, but never, I mean “Never” put someone else on a pedestal ahead of yourself. When you Judge someone else, you are looking through the Mask of Self-importance, which is just an unconscious aspect of “Self-Pity”. When you follow someone else down the Rabbit Hole, that is also a form of Self Pity. I have been working on this psychological aspect of myself for over 10 years! It’s one of the most difficult psychological barriers that hinders an individual’s journey to consciousness. It’s also Narcissistic to think we here on this forum are far more advanced then anyone before Us or around Us! You Don’t know, that you Don’t Know. Did no one here read the post I put out yesterday about Jumping Mouse? It is a Native story told a long time ago, well before any of us here on this forum arrived in this life time. It’s about the journey towards enlightenment from a Natives Perspective, when most of the Natives were still very much “One” with all living things. It is my estimation that most of us here on this forum are no longer connected with all living things here on Earth. If you want to understand God Consciousness, a good place to start would be to connect with the God consciousness that surrounds you in this reality. Read it, you might learn something! Just sharing some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

The Native way of teaching, and passing of knowledge and wisdom was usually done through stories and story telling. One of the stories that they shared with me was a story about Jumping Mouse. I do not want to interpret the story for you because the meaning and essence of the story will resonate with each of you differently. Native teachings generally do not tell you what you should think, they leave the thinking up to you. I realize this story is lengthy, but give it a go! Please feel free to share your thoughts on this story. Jumping Mouse -- This is a Plains Indian Sundance story. There are many Versions. This one was told to Robin Ridington by his friend and teacher, Chuck Storm, Hyemeyohsts. One time there was a mouse who lived with other mice and this little mouse kept hearing a roaring in his ears. He couldn't figure out what it was. All the time, everywhere he went, as he went about his mouse's business, his little whiskers going, looking into nooks and crannies, gathering things, taking seeds from one place to another, he kept hearing this roaring and he wondered what it was. Sometimes he would ask the other mice, "I hear this roaring in my ears, what is it?" And the other mice always said, "We don't hear anything. You must be crazy, get back to work. Accumulate!" So, he got back to work, being a mouse, and did all the things that mice do, but he couldn't get the roaring out of his ears and finally he resolved that he would try to find out what it was. Very timidly he went just to the edge of where the mice were living around the roots of trees and bushes. As soon as he got outside of where the mice lived, he saw a raccoon and the racoon said, "Hello, little brother," and he looked up and said, "Hello, brother." And he said, "You know, I hear this roaring in my ears all the time and I wonder what it is." The racoon said, "Oh, that's easy. I know what that is, that's the great river and I go there every day to wash my food." Little Mouse was really excited because this was the first time that anyone had ever said that what he heard was real and so he started scheming in his mouse's way about how he would take the proof back to all the other mice and then they wouldn't think he was strange anymore. So racoon said, "Yes, I'll take you to the river," and little mouse followed along behind him. Finally, they got to the edge of the great river, to a little eddy on the great river, but little mouse had never seen anything like that before in his life, this fantastic expanse of water. Where mice live the only water, they see is rainwater and dew. They don't see big bodies of water, and to little mouse it was just immense and he timidly went up to the edge of the water. He looked in and he freaked because he saw a mouse in there! He jumped back but nothing happened and he looked again and he saw, yes, it's a mouse in there. He'd seen his own reflection for the first time. The racoon led him down to the bank of the river and at one place he put his hand in and tasted the water and finally the racoon said, "I have to go about my business and find food and wash it in the river, but I'll take you to a friend of mine." So, racoon took little mouse to his brother, Frog. There was a big green frog sitting on the edge of the river, sort of half in and half out. Little mouse said to him, "Hello, brother," and the frog replied, "Hello, brother." And they talked for awhile and the frog told him all about his life, about how he had been given the gift to live half in the water and half out of the water. He was all green on top and white underneath. He told little mouse, "When thunderbird flies you will always find me here but when winter- man comes I will be gone." That sounded pretty good to little mouse and then the frog said to him, "Do you want a medicine?" Little mouse said, "Sure, I'd like a medicine, yes." And then the frog said, "O. K., just crouch down as low as you can get and then jump up as high as you can jump." So little mouse did that. He got down as low as he could go and then he jumped up as high as a mouse could jump. And when he jumped up he saw the sacred mountains and then he fell back down and fell into the water. Nothing like this had ever happened to him before and he scurried out of the water and he was really mad. He said, "You tricked me, that's no medicine, I fell in the water." And the frog said, "Yes, you fell in the water. You're wet. But you're safe, you're alive, aren't you?" And little mouse said, "Yes, I am." And the frog said to him, "What did you see when you jumped up?" Little mouse said, "Oh, yes, yes. I saw the sacred mountains." And the frog said to him, "You have a new name. Your name is Jumping Mouse." Jumping Mouse thanks the frog for having taught him and then he says, "It's time to go back to my people. I want to tell them about the sacred mountains." He has really changed. Instead of saying, "I want to prove to those bastards that the river really exists," now he is just excited. He's seen the sacred mountains and he wants to go back and share his vision with his people. He speaks in innocence because he has learned from the frog. He wants to go back in innocence to tell them about it, and in innocence he will be able to return. The frog tells him, "It's easy to go back to your people. Just keep the sound of the river behind you. The roaring that you heard is now your medicine. You know what it is and you can return to your people." Mice are unable to go in a straight line because they can see close but with the medicine behind him Jumping Mouse can return. He has always heard it, but now he can navigate by it, he has a direction. Jumping Mouse keeps the medicine behind him and goes back to where the other mice are living. He says to them, "You know that roaring in my ears? It was the great river and racoon took me there and I met a frog. The frog gave me a medicine and I jumped up and I saw the sacred mountains." But they looked at him really strangely because he was all wet. He had forgotten entirely about falling in the river but they started whispering among themselves. They said, "An animal must have had him in its mouth. There must be something wrong with him. There must be some pollution, something terrible that he was in the jaws of death and wasn't taken. Very dangerous person." They didn't even hear what he said about the sacred mountains. Poor Jumping Mouse was just crestfallen at this because he had really wanted to tell them about what he had seen so they could see it too, but they couldn't. You cannot see through the eyes of another without giving him your eyes, and they were unable to do that. He stayed with them for a while because they were his people, but finally he resolved that he would go on and find the sacred mountains. He told them about his resolve and they said, "You're insane, you can't do it, the spots will get you." They knew, all mice know, that out on the prairie eagles can swoop down and get mice. But mice do not know eagles. They are too distant from them and so they only see them as spots in the sky. They can see close into the little things of the earth but when they look up and far away they only see spots. And this is a paradox, but eagles when they are close to the ground only see things as a blur. The mice's fear of spots is real because eagles are real and really get mice, and Jumping Mouse was terrified but went on. Out onto the prairie he went, his whiskers feeling, dodging this way and that, feeling the spots pressing down on his back. The prairie is where the great animals meet and travel far and it is an alien place for a mouse. Jumping Mouse went out into it with his fear and finally he came to a circle of sweet sage. The circle of sage was a haven, a cover from the spots, and sweet sage is a plant that you cannot eat but which is used by the Indians for incense, prayer, something healing and beautiful. There in the sweet sage was an old, old mouse. Long braids, an old mouse. Jumping Mouse was joyous to meet someone of his own kind he could talk to out in this alien place. The clump of sage was a haven and a paradise for mice. There were seeds and roots to crawl into and everything a mouse could want there. He went up to the old mouse and he said, "Grandfather, I heard a roaring in my ears and I have been to the great river." The old mouse said, "Yes, I too heard the roaring and I too have been to the great river." Jumping Mouse was really excited because for the first time he had found a mouse who had shared his experience. So, they talked about the river and the common things they knew. Jumping Mouse was more and more excited and he said, "And then I met the frog and he told me to jump up and I jumped up and I saw the sacred mountains." The old mouse was silent for a long time and finally said, "My grandson, the great river is real and we have both been there and tasted its water, but the sacred mountains are just a myth. They don't exist." Jumping Mouse was just crushed and disappointed by this and the old mouse said to him, "Stay with me and grow old with me here. This is a perfect place for mice and we have both been further than any other mouse." Jumping Mouse resolves to go on and the old mouse is really upset. He says, "You can't do that, the spots will get you." But Jumping Mouse is resolved and he leaves the old mouse in the sage. He goes out onto the prairie and he is really afraid. He can feel the spots, just feel them pressing in. Knows that they are there every moment; his little whiskers are going fast and finally he gets out to the middle of the prairie and comes to a stand of chokecherry bushes. Chokecherries are good to eat but they make you fantastically thirsty. The more you eat, the more thirst you have. Jumping Mouse is out of breath and thankful for a safe haven and cover from the spots and as he lies there panting, he hears a great sighing slowly, up and down. And he looks up and sees that it is a great animal. Jumping Mouse thinks, "I am so small and this great being is so large," and he forgets his fear in his awe and goes up to the animal and says, "Hello, great brother," and it replies, "Hello, little brother," and Jumping Mouse asks, "Who are you?" and he says, "I am a Buffalo and I am dying." When he hears this, little mouse is overcome with sadness that this great being that he has just met is dying and he says to him, "What can I do to make you well? Is there any medicine that will make you well?" And the buffalo says, "I have talked with my medicine and it has told me that there is only one thing that will make me well, and that is the eye of a mouse, and there is no such thing as a mouse." Jumping Mouse was just freaked by this and he ran back, his little whiskers going, his tail behind him until he reached some cover. But from a safe place he heard the breathing again, getting slower and slower, and he felt a tremendous compassion for the buffalo. "I am so small," he thought, "and the buffalo is so great and so beautiful." Finally, he came out from his hole, taking two steps forward and one step back, his tail dragging, but resolved to speak to his great brother. "I want to tell you something," he said, " there is such a thing as a mouse and I am a mouse." "Thank you very much, little brother," the buffalo replied. "I will die happy knowing that there is such a thing as a mouse. But it is too much to ask of you to give one of your eyes." But Jumping Mouse told him, "No, I am so small and you are so great that I would like to give you one of my eyes and make you well." And immediately as he said that, one of his eyes flew out of his head and the Buffalo jumped up, strong and powerful, his hooves pounding on the earth and his great head dancing and hooking. He was strong and he said, "I know who you are. You are Jumping Mouse and you have been to the river and jumped up and seen the sacred mountains. You are on your way to them. I can guide you across the prairie, for I am one of the great beings of the prairie. Run underneath me. I know you are afraid of the spots, and I will protect you from them. You will be safe and I will take you across the prairie right to the edge of the sacred mountains. But I can't take you farther than that because I am a creature of the prairie and I must stay here to give away to the people. If I go up onto the sacred mountains it will be too steep and I will fall and crush you." So, Jumping Mouse runs underneath the buffalo across the prairie, his hooves just pounding, dust flying, shaking the earth and little mouse is frightened at the great power of the buffalo. He knows he is safe but this is worse, trying to keep up with a goddam buffalo! Finally, they get to the edge of the prairie and he is really exhausted and he comes creeping out from underneath the great buffalo, thankful to be alive. He looks up at the great gift and he says, "That was really something!" And the buffalo says, "You didn't need to worry, little brother. I am a buffalo and I know where I place every footstep. I am a great dancer and light on my feet. I could see you underneath me all the way and you were perfectly safe." So, the buffalo left Jumping Mouse at the edge of the sacred mountains, and he looks around. Who should he see now but a wolf, sitting there - a big beautiful wolf, just sitting on his haunches, kind of looking around one place or another. And he goes up to him and he says, "Hello, brother Wolf." And the wolf says, "Wolf, wolf, yes, I'm a wolf, wolf, yes, wolf," and then he sort of sits back and a beatific grin comes across his and he doesn't say any more. His mind wanders, slips away. And Jumping Mouse can't figure that out. What the hell's going on? So, he comes up again and he says, "Hello, brother wolf," and the wolf says "Wolf, wolf, yes wolf, wolf yes, I'm a wolf, yes," and his voice trails off as his mind slips again. So, Jumping Mouse wonders what is going on and he goes a little distance away and he listens to the beating of his heart; the sound of his heart is beating like a drum inside him. And he remembered all the thing that have happened to him. He remembered that when the buffalo was dying the thing that would make him well was the eye of a mouse and he figures that's good medicine. "I've got good medicine, a lot of power in the eye of a mouse." And he resolves that he will give his other eye to the wolf and that will make him well. So he goes up to the wolf and he says, "Brother wolf," and the wolf begins to say, "Wolf, wolf" but Jumping Mouse stops him and says, "I want to give you one of my eyes," and immediately his eye, his last eye, is gone and he's blind, and the wolf jumps up and says, Yes, I'm a wolf. I know who you are. You are Jumping Mouse. You have been to the great river, the frog has shown you the sacred mountains, the buffalo has brought you to me, and I can guide you to the medicine lake at the top of the sacred mountains." Little mouse is blind now, and all he has is his whiskers. He can touch but he has given up all his old ways of seeing. He can only touch things close now. The wolf takes him up from the prairie, through the pines, "stands-in-place," Finally they get to the open country at the top of the mountain. There are no trees there, no cover, nothing for a mouse. They get to the edge of the medicine lake and the wolf tells him, "We are here. We are at the medicine lake." And he sits Jumping Mouse down by it. Jumping Mouse takes his hand and puts it in the water and tastes it, and it's good, it's beautiful. And then the wolf describes to him what he can see in the medicine lake. He says, "In the medicine lake are reflected all the lodges of the people. The whole world is reflected there. The medicine lake is the reflection. It is a symbol of the reflection. They sit there and Jumping Mouse knows that it is time for the wolf to go about his business and travel to other parts of the world. It is time for the eagles to get him. It is an open place and as soon as his guide is gone the eagles will see him and come. He is blind and he can't see them. The wolf feels tremendous compassion and feeling for Jumping Mouse his brother, and his heart stretches out to him, and the wolf cries. Then he leaves and Jumping Mouse is left alone, blind, nothing but looking within, and he can feel the spots on his back, just pressing in, hard. And then he hears the rush of wind and wings and then there is a fantastic shock and everything is black. The next thing he knows, he can see colours. He can see! He can see colours. And he's amazed, astounded, he doesn't know if he's dreaming or what is happening. But he's alive and he can see colours. Then he sees a blur of colours moving toward him, something green and white moving his way and from the colours comes a voice. "You want a medicine?" And Jumping Mouse says, "Yes, I'd like a medicine." And the voice says, "Just get down as far as you can and jump up as high as you can jump." So little mouse gets down as low as he can and jumps up as high as he can jump, and when he does, the wind catches him and swirls him up and up and up in the air. And the voice calls out from below him, "Grab hold of the wind!" So little mouse reaches out and grabs hold of the wind as hard as he can, and the wind takes him higher and higher until everything begins to get clearer and clearer. Crystal clear, and he can see all the great beings of the prairie, the buffalo, the wolf on the mountain, and he looks down into the medicine lake and there are all the lodges of the people reflected, and on the edge of the medicine lake he sees his friend the frog. He calls down to him, "Hello, brother Frog," and the frog calls back to him, "Hello, brother Eagle." Just sharing some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

"Seth Speaks", by Jane Roberts

@pluto Thanks for sharing! Your thoughts on this topic are very similar to mine. Most humans believe they are separate from all the conscious entities within Nature and the conscious entity of “Earth”. I believe and feel that we are “one” with everything that is contained within the Earth Bubble, and of course beyond. Our higher “self” in the “All That Is” materialized into this conscious paradise to become co-creators with all the other conscious entities that signed-up for the “Earth” experience. Sadly, we humans are going through some “unconscious” “self-centred”, “Psychotic” growing pains, which all of the other co-creators of Mother Nature and the Earth, want us to become aware of. Since most humans are no longer connected intuitively with the rest of the conscious co-creators of Mother Nature, the Earth entity, or their higher consciousness/Self, they have had to use other means to communicate with us, such as; diseases, Pandemics, Earthquakes, devastating disasters etc. What most humans don’t understand is how our self-centered, psychotic, and psychopathic behaviours have had a detrimental effect on all the other conscious entities, beings and co-creators within and beyond the Earth experience. Everything in Consciousness is interrelated and interconnected with “All That Is”. Our negative, destructive, self-centered, psychotic, and materialistic thoughts, ideas, beliefs, feelings and emotions affect everyone and everything, near and far. The Coronavirus is a wake-up call from all the conscious co-creators of Mother Nature, the Earth, and all the conscious atoms and molecules that create your cells, organs, nervous system and human senses. That is not to say that these disasters would not occur if we were all enlightened, because that is also part and parcel of us participating in the Earth experience. Many of these Pandemics, and natural disasters can and are used for humans to experience a physical death and transition back to their/our Higher “Self”, to the dream state of “All That Is”. Life, or Beingness, is very fluid. Death and Birth are/is a transitional illusion that is used back and forth from “Form to Non-Form” and vice-versa. It’s all in your perspective. I see the unconscious and conscious chaos we are experience and creating around the world and this Pandemic as a wake-up call, and more importantly, a turning point in our conscious evolution. “It’s all, capital “G”, Good”. Just share some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

Been there and bought the tee-shirt. I went through that dark night as well, are you kidding me, I am still going through that dark night, but less intense. (“Dark night”, is just a label I use to mean “an intense change of old habits, patterns and beliefs). Here is my take on “All That Is”, (I’m trying to get away from the label of “God Consciousness” because no matter how conscious you think you have become it still has some lingering juice and affiliation with Religion hidden in the unconscious human mind), is a vast dream state of Consciousness and Energy that dreams up all physical realties, all thoughts, ideas, feelings, and probable existences. So here is the conflict that I face when breaking through layers of consciousness and awareness; we are all in a physical “Earth Dream” that has accepted the predominant thoughts and ideas from either the evolutionist and creationist belief systems, Religious or Scientific paradigms, either consciously or unconsciously. It’s embedded within the Human Collective Mind Belief System and individual Ego Mind Consciousness. The emotions and turmoil I feel, as I break through each layer of consciousness, are the result of breaking through the Human Collective thought patterns, ideas, beliefs, and feelings that I have accepted and have embedded into my physical and mental “self” over the last 60 years as a participant of the Collective human conditioning and societal experience. The awkward feelings, emotions and energy I experience, are the result of my “NEW” thoughts, ideas, beliefs, imaginations, feelings, emotions struggling to change, release and denounce the “OLD” Human Collective thought patterns, ideas and beliefs etc., that I have carried within the physical, mental “self” all these years. The “Alone” feeling is normal and is part-and-parcel of becoming conscious and awake. We are leaving our “Family” of “old” familiar thoughts, ideas, beliefs, feelings, emotions, and even some relationships behind, to explore higher levels of conscious thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc., that no-longer resonate with the “OLD”. I have found that it is almost impossible to eliminate all of my thoughts, ideas, beliefs, feelings and emotions from the “Self’. It is my belief that if one were to eliminate them entirely, one would no longer exist in this physical reality, or even in the “All That Is” because Consciousness needs all of them to be Creator and Creation. What I have found to be helpful is to “Create” new thoughts, ideas, beliefs etc., that resonate with the changes you are going through. Don’t get caught-up in the “Void of Nothingness” that many people in these forums worship or strive. The “All That Is”, is much more diverse, exciting and fun to explore than trying to obtain or become Nothing! If any of the ideas that I used in this Post resonate with you, I highly recommend reading some of the books from Seth (Start with “Seth Speaks”). Seth will go much more into detail than what I have shared here with you, with more advance material than any other books I have read over the years. The Seth material will help you integrate the changes you are experiencing with your thoughts, ideas and belief, and will help you experience and understand higher levels of consciousness. Just remember, "you are not alone"! Just sharing some thoughts, ideas, beliefs!

The answer is within. When you do Yoga, how does your body feel? Does it enjoy the stretches? Does it struggle with pain? Can you “Be” with the posture? When doing Yoga, how does it feel to breath? Does it calm down? Do you feel the isness in it? Do you struggle and hold your breath often? When doing Yoga, where is your mind? Does it dance from thought to thought? Does it calm down? Does it become “one” with the moment? When doing Yoga, can you feel the energy within? Is it blocked or numb in areas? Does it flow with consciousness and freedom? Can you feel the atoms and molecules that make up your cells and organs? When doing Yoga, are you aware of your higher “self”? Are you caught up in physical reality? Do you want to be somewhere else? When doing Yoga, how do you feel; mentally, physically, emotionally, energetically, and spiritually after completing the session? The answer to what Yoga is, may be within some of the thoughts, ideas and beliefs I just shared with you. Take these thoughts, ideas, and beliefs and play with them and create your own reality of what Yoga “is” and “can be”! Keep your thoughts, ideas and beliefs fluid. Observe them, and watch how they change as you progress with your Yoga sessions! Enjoy the journey, don’t worry about the destination….. Just sharing some thoughts, ideas, and beliefs!

I don’t believe Biden is as conscious as Bernie. The sad reality is it doesn’t matter how conscious the Democratic leader is, they could be yellow for that matter. The problem is most of the elite that hold sway in the Democratic party are still sitting in orange and want to maintain status-quo. The other problem is the two-tier system of the House of Reps and the Senate. Even if you have a conscious leader as President, you need the support from both the House of reps and the Senate to pass bills and make effective changes. Take a look at what happened to Obama, he barely got anything passed through his eight years of power because most of the people sitting in the House and Senate are Blue and Orange SD minded. Most of Obama’s initiatives for change were all watered down or blocked because of the unconscious fears the Blue and Orange SD’s had when it came to progressive ideas and changes. Both the Dem’s and Republicans were guilty of handcuffing Obama when it came to Obamacare and other initiatives in the House of Rep’s and the Senate. A leader can only pass ideas and change if he has the support from both sides, and that has not happened in American Politics for a long time, Unit States is basically Bankrupt and no one wants to admit it. Not even the world banks, the Politian’s, or most of the population. The teenager (Government) basically maxed-out all of the credit cards and the credit companies (Billionaires) have horded all the money. No one wants to pay high taxes, but everyone wants to keep on partying and have everything given to them at no cost to them. As long as this mentality exists in the Government, the Ultra rich, and the average person, nothing will change. The dysfunctional Political House of Cards has to fall first before a conscious leader will ever have a chance of making meaningful changes, this includes the House of Reps and the Senate on both sides of the aisle. So, to answer your question in a round-about way, it really doesn’t matter how conscious Biden is. If he gets elected President, the Democratic Party will be handed and will be force to sit on a warehouse of unstable explosives that Trump and the Republican Party have built. Eventually this stock pile will explode or implode when the economy crashes. And as long as the House of Reps and the Senate decide to continue creating Drama and Chaos amongst themselves, nothing will change. For anything meaningful to change, you need consciousness on both the Left and Right sides of the political spectrum. The United States is slowly heading in that direction, but they are not quite there yet. The train needs to crash first so that the majority of the population are forced to awaken from Red, Blue and Orange SD state of unconscious dreaming. Who knows, maybe the train will crash before the Elections! Let's Hope! Just some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

I don’t believe Biden is as conscious as Bernie. The sad reality is it doesn’t matter how conscious the Democratic leader is, they could be yellow for that matter. The problem is most of the elite that hold sway in the Democratic party are still sitting in orange and want to maintain status-quo. The other problem is the two-tier system of the House of Reps and the Senate. Even if you have a conscious leader as President, you need the support from both the House of reps and the Senate to pass bills and make effective changes. Take a look at what happened to Obama, he barely got anything passed through his eight years of power because most of the people sitting in the House and Senate are Blue and Orange SD minded. Most of Obama’s initiatives for change were all watered down or blocked because of the unconscious fears the Blue and Orange SD’s had when it came to progressive ideas and changes. Both the Dem’s and Republicans were guilty of handcuffing Obama when it came to Obamacare and other initiatives in the House of Rep’s and the Senate. A leader can only pass ideas and change if he has the support from both sides, and that has not happened in American Politics for a long time, Unit States is basically Bankrupt and no one wants to admit it. Not even the world banks, the Politian’s, or most of the population. The teenager (Government) basically maxed-out all of the credit cards and the credit companies (Billionaires) have horded all the money. No one wants to pay high taxes, but everyone wants to keep on partying and have everything given to them at no cost to them. As long as this mentality exists in the Government, the Ultra rich, and the average person, nothing will change. The dysfunctional Political House of Cards has to fall first before a conscious leader will ever have a chance of making meaningful changes, this includes the House of Reps and the Senate on both sides of the aisle. So, to answer your question in a round-about way, it really doesn’t matter how conscious Biden is. If he gets elected President, the Democratic Party will be handed and will be force to sit on a warehouse of unstable explosives that Trump and the Republican Party have built. Eventually this stock pile will explode or implode when the economy crashes. And as long as the House of Reps and the Senate decide to continue creating Drama and Chaos amongst themselves, nothing will change. For anything meaningful to change, you need consciousness on both the Left and Right sides of the political spectrum. The United States is slowly heading in that direction, but they are not quite there yet. The train needs to crash first so that the majority of the population are forced to awaken from Red, Blue and Orange SD state of unconscious dreaming. Who knows, maybe the train will crash before the Elections! Let's Hope! Just some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

“Let Trump win the 2020 elections.” If the Democrats win the 2020 election, they will take on a huge Debt in the Trillions upon trillions and a yearly Deficit that I believe has also reached a trillion $$$$$. What do you think will happen to the Democrat’s when the huge tax break Trump gave the rich finally catches up with the economy in the next 4 years? Where do you think unemployment will end up in the next 4 years? What about the stock markets? Where do you think the Democrat’s are going to get the money to fund a health care system for all, when this all comes crashing down? What do you think will happen to the Democrat’s if they get caught in a recession that will more than likely happen in the next 4 years? The Democrat’s will get annihilated by the American People, especially by the far-Right fanatics when all the cards come crashing down. It doesn’t matter if Bernie is more conscious and awake then every other nominee, the cards will come crashing down. He will get slaughtered if he wins and he and the Democrat's will be blamed for the mess Trump and the Republican’s orchestrated. It doesn’t take a psychic to see that the writing is on the wall. Stop looking at the short-term future! This train needs to crash before any good can happen. Vote Trump, and let him and all the Blue and Orange SD people hit bottom. Only then can the American people rise up out of the ashes and chaos and change the world for the better……. I know it’s painful for all you green, yellow, and turquois SD’s, but you have to go beyond your emotions and beliefs and consciously discriminate what the long-term effects will be if the Democrat’s win in 2020. Just thoughts and beliefs!

I believe I understand what you are say, and your intentions are in the right place. Everyone has something to offer in this physical reality that we are experiencing as individuals and as a collective. There are no right or wrongs, better or worse, it just is. Everyone needs to travel their journey on there own and make “Mis-take(s),” as they say in Hollywood, along the path to consciousness. You, Leo, myself and everyone else here likes to share their thoughts, ideas, and beliefs because we all care deep down, not only for ourselves, but for others that are on the path and those that are not. We learn by sharing, we show Love and Compassion by sharing, even if it means someone’s sharing can be more conscious, or less conscious or even unconscious in nature. The intent remains the same, it’s neither better or worse. “It’s all good.” Having said that, this is what I would like to share; I have read hundreds of books about consciousness, Love, compassion, spirituality, reality, nothingness etc. If I had to do it all over again, I would start with “Seth Speaks” by Jane Roberts and take it from there. It’s over fifty years old, but it's advanced material. It can be difficult to understand if you are new to spirituality and not had any conscious break throughs that left you questioning what reality is, who am I, and how do my thoughts, ideas, and beliefs create my reality. I have listened and read many forums and watched a lot of videos, and it all helps. Having said that, if you feel like you are spinning your wheels and feel stuck, give Seth Speaks, a try. You may resonate or may not resonate with the knowledge. I have nothing to gain by giving this book a recommendation other than sharing a gift that someone shared with me a while ago. I’m just passing the gift on. Nothing more and nothing less. Humbly sharing some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

Sorry, I have not read Walsch's "Conversations with God", but thanks I will have to look in to it. The Seth books deal with most of the relevant aspects that relate to our physical reality that we are experiencing from a conscious and awake state. Seth speaks a lot about; The Eternal validity of the soul, The Nature of Personal Reality, The Nature of the psyche, The Unknown Reality, The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events, and several others. The ones I have mentioned deal a lot on topics of dreams, healing, natural disasters, your beliefs and emotions, different realities, your soul, and even how we as a collective influence our cultures, relationships, and Politics. They are all good reads! Enjoy…

Some of the Seth books are over 50 years old and a few Universities in the States have studied them in great detail. What Leo and these forums are discussing here in the 21st century has been conferred by tens of thousands of like mind people back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. This is not a dig towards Leo or the people in this forum, but a friendly reminder that many people have been working on Self consciousness and awareness, and how that relates to this physical journey we are travelling in well before, and much longer than most of you have been alive! The movement to bring God consciousness, "Self Consciousness", physical consciousness and awareness has been in motion for hundreds of years. Most of the work has been done in private groups and pockets around the world. It has been hidden in Canada and the U.S. because of the backlash from the Christian SD Blue dominance in these countries. There are a lot of people out there that have done the work and have not opened up to the media or the general public so as to avoid biased attention. It is only now that the younger generations have caught wind of this movement and are feeling safer to bring forward these awareness’s to the public light. Just An Old Timer sharing some thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

I have to agree with most of your thoughts, not all. I would also like to say that I have benefited a lot from Leo’s videos and these forums, they have helped me see many levels of consciousness and awareness’s from many perspectives. I can also say that I have done several Ayahuasca ceremonies and other teacher plants, and yes, I reached what Leo calls God consciousness, the void, nothingness, love, and several multidimensional realms and dream states. But that’s just the beginning, there’s more to life than reaching those states of nothingness and God consciousness. We are all here to live a fully creative life in this physical reality. Exploring all of this physical creation that we have created with love and wonderment, using our full awarness and consciousness. As for Leo reaching a higher level than any other human that ever existed, Not likely! I have had the pleasure to meet some Authentic Indigenous Shaman that would dance circles around most of the topics discussed here in this forum. They can take you to depths of consciousness and multidimensional realities that your imagination has never touched or heard of. That's not to say that Leo's work is inferior, because it is not. He has done a lot for many people on the path to become conscious and awake with practical discussions and topics of mindfulness and awareness. There is a lot of wisdom within his teachings. Having said that, if anyone is interested and wants to really dig deeper in what it means to be a “Spiritual Being having a Physical experience in this physical reality”, keep in mind there are infinite other physical realities than our very own, may I suggest reading several “Seth” books that Jane Roberts and her partner put out in the 60s and 70’s. You may be pleasantly surprised what you will learn. The "Seeking" never ends! Just sharing some thoughts ideas and beliefs! Take care!

Shaman Apprenticeship. I would like to add one final note to my first post. If and when you feel the calling to Shamanism or possibly want to seriously become a Shaman, it is, “in my opinion, experience, and belief”, very important to seek an Authentic Native, Aboriginal, Indigenous Shaman. At the very least, a creditable Shaman or Medicine Person for the following reasons: The only way you are going to succeed and not fall into the multitude of pitfalls, misinterpretations, or projecting your Ego thoughts, ideas, beliefs and Emotional energy onto others, is through a Shaman or credible Medicine Person. Don’t get me wrong, you can do it alone, but the odds of you not falling into and getting side tracked in Ego illusion are not very favorable. But that’s not the only thing Shamanism or being a Shaman has to contend with or focus on. To put it into our language and terms, a Shaman is a psychoanalysis, an energy worker (I don’t mean healer, although some do it), energetically aware of, relate and communicate with many of the different levels of consciousness with nature, the planet, personal, collective, universal and cosmic realms, to some degree. Most of a shaman’s work is helping others become awake and aware of the physical dream state, maintaining balance and harmony in this reality and guiding others to their full potential. They learn how to use ceremonies and stories, and some dedicate themselves and use Teacher Plants to help awaken individuals and to communicate at the student’s level etc. A Shaman helps awaken and work on people’s thoughts, ideas, beliefs and emotions (Ego human mind consciousness) so that they can interpret and perceive this reality without attachments etc. Many individuals call themselves Shaman’s thinking that the only thing they need to do is communicate and extend their consciousness into other realms and dimensions. That is just one aspect of being a Shaman and Shamanism. A credible Shaman is also a teacher, student, apprentice, a ceremonialist for life. They are constantly working on their thoughts, ideas, beliefs and emotions to insure they don’t project misleading knowledge, mislead someone with their own ungrounded energy and perceptions or deceptions. A Shaman helps guide his apprentice thru all the pitfalls of ego deception, they help them work thru their shadow and call out the individuals BS when the student misinterprets the knowledge received from other dream states and realms or from deep seed beliefs and behaviours. The Shaman also helps the apprentice learn how to interpret the knowledge that is shared with other beings in this physical reality using ceremonies and other tools and modalities etc. There is so much more then what I am sharing. My knowledge is very limited. This is just the tip of the iceberg to the original indigenous tribal shamanism and being a Shaman from a white mans perspective, lol. Just to make my self clear, I am only sharing with you the limited knowledge and experience I have as someone that “was” a part time apprentice for a few years. I had to make a choice almost 10 years ago to either seriously dedicate my life to be a Shaman apprentice full time or dedicate my life to my family. I am okay with my choice because I know another probable part of my personality took the Shamanic path in another dimension, another mirroring physical reality (for lack of words). Nothing is lost. Just sharing some thoughts and beliefs!

Are you projecting your thoughts and beliefs towards me? The definition of Ego can and is also ones own projection, is it not? Maybe and maybe not. Where are you getting these ideas and beliefs from? Agree! The most authentic expression of a Shaman is "one that can see into the Dark(ness)". Like I said in my post, the word and label of Dark can assume many forms. A healer uses tools with energy etc., A Shaman uses all the tools, but more importantly they go into the depths of the individuals, collective, Universal and Cosmic dream states and communicates with the energies and beings within these dream states to alter, aid or manipulate physical thoughts, ideas, beliefs and emotions to heal or awaken the individual, group, culture, nation from there dysfunctional delusional selves. In most cases, the Shaman most often uses tools that the individual ego can relate to and understand to help bring in awareness. I don’t believe I said anything to the contrary! But then agian, maybe and maybe not. It's all just thoughts and beliefs, thats's all that we are in the reality of consciouness and energy. Maybe and maybe not, our reality is nothing but probabilities. When you take one path, probability or course of action, another you (personality) will take another path in another dimension and reality. There are no right or wrong paths. Your personality has taken many probable paths since the time of your perceived birth. The paths are infinite Again, maybe and maybe not. It all comes down to your thoughts, ideas, and beliefs. You ultimately can choose the reality you wish to experience. If you believe in the devil and evil, then that is what you will attract. I am not saying that when a Shaman enters the other realms that he will not encounter beings and energies that have the potential to do harm, but an aware Shaman's connection with his higher self and the knowledge he/she gains from their spirit helpers and Shamanic teachers will help then navigate safely. That is why my original post pointed for those that have dreamed their calling to Shamanism to seek an Authentic Native, Aboriginal Shaman for direction and to help make sense of the different dream states and realities. An Authentic Shaman can also help teach a newbie how to use this knowledge and share it with those trapped in the physical reality and illusion of form using a multitude of tools, just like you are doing. As far as I am concerned you don’t need a near death experience to seek out Shamanism or drop your desire to become a Shaman. I know of many of my brothers and sisters that received awakenings later on during their quest. An “Ego death” (meaning, the death of all their beliefs about the physical reality) is all that may be needed to begin the journey into the depths of the dream sates etc. Yes, not everyone will become a Shaman, I don't believe I said anthing otherwise... I'm not sure where you are getting these beliefs and thoughts. Let’s agree to disagree. I just want to caution you that when you communicate or get direction from the other side, be very careful how your thoughts, ideas, and beliefs interpret the knowledge. One of the biggest pitfalls people get into is when they do Shamanism and Shamanic work alone and without the guidance from those that have been there and have learned the deceptions and mental traps that can befall them. I am no Shaman, but I have been to some of those dream states and altered dimensions, and I know from experience how one can easily misinterpret their experiences. Example, one of my brothers had several experiences with Mother Ayahuasca and came to the conclusion that he needed to pass on the word of Jesus Christ. After many interactions with the Shaman he realized that his suppressed negative Catholic teachings he received as a child were now brought out into his consciousness, and were now in conflict with his Adult beliefs. He inadvertently misinterpreted the experience, and could have easily gone back to those beliefs by fooling himself that they were positive. Having said that, I wish you only the best, it was not my intent to disagree with your thoughts or beliefs. I was only trying to share or pass on some "Native, Aboriginal, Indigenous” Shamanic knowledge that I experienced and learned with Dreamscape. His original question was “Can anybody describe shamanism to someone (me) who has no clue what it is? Preferably a longer description” Just sharing thoughts and beliefs!

I don't think I said they do.. Maybe, and maybe not.. Who's to say that the Spirits don't use another human to help open another person to awaken to their potential. Is that not what is happening here, and in some of your post? A sweet lodge is just a tool which some Medicine men/female and Shamans use to help heal and awaken humans. It's not a category.. Again, I don't think I said that! If I did, I apologise for the words I used. That was not my intent. Again, I have said many times in my post that language does not do this topic any justice. I am only trying to point the reader in a direction of knowingness.

There are many perspectives and opinions on Shamanism. Very few tribes and shamans share their reality with outsiders, and if they do, they have watered down and adjusted the Shamanic “Ways” and “Keys” for Westerners to understand and resonate. I was fortunate to receive some of the more authentic teachings and ceremonies over a course of 6 or 7 years. When I say “more authentic” I don’t mean exact, because much of the teachings lose their potency from the language being translated, the cultural differences, belief systems etc., and not all of the teachings and ceremonies have been passed down to Westerners from the “Twisted Hair Council of Elders” and from the old “Rattle Snake School” which is where many North, Central, and South American Shamans would visit to share teachings and ceremonies well before the Europeans ever knew or heard of America. At one time the school was located in Oaxaca, Mexico, Monte Alban, and has since gone underground. A Shaman can be defined many ways and play many roles, but an authentic Shaman must be able to see into the “Dark”. My understand of Dark is the Shamans ability to go to the other side (Spiritual, non-form, dream states, ancestors, higher states of consciousness, etc.,). They must be able to see, interpret, communicate with the infinite forms (beings) of magnetic attracting thought forms, electromagnetic energy units and powers of nature (again, much is lost in language) The “Dark” is just a label that means to be able to see ones own or anothers shadow from non-physical reality, to see an individual, group, animal world, plant world, human world, mineral world, Grandmother Earths consciousness (which includes the weather, oceans and land masses), collective and universal conscious states, and how they are all interconnected, interrelated, and influence each other. Make no mistake, everything you perceive has consciousness at different levels. Many are more conscious and connected with the everything than we humans are. The atoms and molecules that make up your cells, organs and physical body are more consciously connected to the everything, then you or I are! Westerners are just now starting to get a taste of the depth and latitude of consciousness that is available from our dimension of physical reality and our dream state(s). What you are learning and sharing here in these forums is just a small taste of what’s available within God Consciousness. When members in a tribe seek healing, answers, knowledge they ask the Shaman to step into the Dark (you can use other terms instead of Dark, it’s just one of many, don’t get caught up in the label) and then return with the answers, solutions and possible ceremonies. Most of the suffering is influenced by thoughts, ideas and beliefs, especially collective beliefs in the tribe, the cultures, and the nation. These beliefs create emotions, and together they create illness, disease, the well being or disharmony of the individual, tribe, nature and even the weather. Just one example of a large healing ceremony that I experienced was done in a large circle of humans, with the individual that needed the healing in the center. The Shaman stays on the outside of the circle and orchestrates the energy, the healers inside the circle, the chanting, drums, rattles, etc., which is all used to shake, break down the individual’s beliefs and blocked energy. This can some times take days, depending on how serious and severe the individual has attached themselves to the illness, disease, thoughts and beliefs. Shamans and Medicine men use hundreds of different ceremonies to bring consciousness and awareness to heal or alter the thoughts, ideas, beliefs of individuals and groups, and to alter the energy within the humans that are unconsciously creating there own suffering. This suffering, if many in the collective are also resonating with it, will influence the power dynamics and well being of all living beings, including nature and the Planet. As a micro example, have you ever walked into a room where a huge argument or fight just happen? Did you notice the energy and how it was affecting your well being? To become an authentic "Native", "Aboriginal" Shaman, "as an outsider", is almost impossible. If you are lucky and have “willed” it into your dream, it takes years and years of full-time apprenticeship under a Shaman in his turf and sphere of influence. You can tell if you are receiving water downed Americanised teachings if they use New Age material, sound tracks, dogma that has unconsciously or consciously been mixed with Religious teachings from around the world etc. One example that I experienced was when I attended a Sweet Lodge, the so called Shaman insisted that only men could be fire keepers and use the drum, woman had there respective roles, woman that were on their moon cycle could not participate in ceremonies when men are present, and the list goes on. A lot of these dogma teachings have been influenced by Christian beliefs and the European Patriarchal Paradigm. Energy is energy, we all have masculine and feminine energy, we are all “One”. On another note; Be cautious about taking "excessive" amounts of Teacher Plants. Teacher Plants are psychedelics from Mother nature that Shamans use to awaken consciousness in individuals, heal, and to seek knowledge. It is a tool to help individuals to see, touch and taste (don’t get caught on the literally meaning of these words, I am just trying to point in a direction) different states of consciousness, dimensions, and realities. Teacher Plants are not supposed to be used as a crutch to get to those states, they are there to teach you how to get there on your own, eventually without them. I’m getting off topic, there are many shamanic schools out there, 99% of the ones I researched or attended have been altered for American consumerism. That doesn’t mean that they are all bad, some of them have fantastic teachings, ceremonies etc. If you are really called to this type of reality it will happen. You must make yourself available, go to some of the places in North, Central, and South America that are rumored to have Shamans and Native teachings. You will eventually weed out the BS and slowly resonate with the energy and thoughts that will open the doors to there world. Just thoughts and beliefs!

Epiphany is an “Aha!” moment. As a literary device, epiphany (pronounced ih-pif–uh-nee) is the moment when a character is suddenly struck with a life-changing realization which changes the rest of the story. Often, an epiphany begins with a small, everyday occurrence or experience. (literaryterms.net › epiphany.) I was never deeply into Politics until Obama became President and Harper became the Canadian Prime Minister. What really interested me was how grown Men and Women behaved when they got a taste of Power and Authority when elected to play the “GAME” of “Politics”. These people are supposed to represent the Tax Payers Interests and the Well Being of the Nation as a whole. No parts, people, ethnic group, culture, environment, economy, etc., should be ignored or shunned at the expense of greed, corruption and vote-ability. But that’s what’s happening and has been happening now for more then 20 plus years at an alarm rated and level. Yes, it was happening well before that, but Political Parties, in general, had more integrity way back when and tended to cooperate with the opposing party when it really affected the Nation and Publics well being and interests. That’s not the case anymore. Most people voting think things will get better when so and so gets voted in because his or her platform addresses the Nations and Public interests. Reality Check! You need mature conscious Politicians, and I don’t mean one or two. There needs to be a majority of conscious selfless Politian’s from all sides of the aisle to cooperate and put aside their differences and agendas. Only then can a Government take care of the people, the Nation and the World. Unfortunately, most of us, and most Politian’s are not conscious enough to see reality for what it is. The Political and Media rhetoric and sensationalism, the anger towards others, finger pointing, ignorance and "Drama" will continue for a very long time until the Political Train Crashes. I hate to say it, but the Train Crash is not going to happen soon enough. The simmering Pot-of-shit hasn’t boiled over the edge of the Pot yet to put out the fire beneath it! The following News article I have attached really puts things into perspective. Not only US Politics, but also most other Countries in the world, other than some of the Scandinavian Countries, which seem to be a little more conscious then the rest of ours….. https://www.vox.com/2020/2/10/21128617/sanders-biden-buttigieg-2020-democratic-primary-warren It’s well worth a read…. Just thoughts and beliefs!

@Llight I had difficulty with this one as well. Maybe this may help you to see it from a different perspective. Most people don’t have any emotions or feelings of guilt, shame, fear etc., when they cut their front lawn grass, why is that? One possible explanation could be that people don’t have any feels or emotions when cutting grass is because they don’t “believe” grass is a living being or is conscious, or that grass doesn’t feel pain when they cut it. Because of this “belief” or “Unconscious Belief”, most people do not feel any emotions or feelings towards grass cutting. A few conscious beings, on the other hand, are aware that all plants are conscious beings to some degree, and their beliefs are different, which may lead to feelings and emotions. When you look at your cup of coffee every morning, do you experience any emotions or feelings? I sometimes do, it reminds me when I was younger and worked out in the cold. It was a comfort for me. My “belief” was and is that coffee is a warm and welcoming comfort beverage. It is also a fond memory, and memories are thoughts that can lead to feelings and emotions. My niece, on the other hand, spilt coffee on her lap while driving. Her feelings and emotions towards coffee are entirely different than mine. She now believes hot coffee is dangerous and painful, and because of this “belief” and “Past thought memories”, she gets a feeling sensation of fear and pain and mildly emotional when she sees coffee. I know these aren’t the greatest examples, but try to understand where I am coming from. Ask a few females in their 40’s and 50’s what their feelings are about men? and also when they were 10 years old? Did their feelings and emotions change over the years? Why? So, the question you should be investigating is; do beliefs and thoughts come before or after emotions and feelings. If you do come to the conclusion that beliefs and thoughts come before emotions and feelings, you may come to the realization that you do have control of your emotions and feelings by just changing your beliefs, thoughts and programing! Just sharing a few thoughts and beliefs!

I hear what you are saying, and no one wants a repeat of what happened in the past. I don’t think we are anywhere near that situation where Americans start killing each other because of our political beliefs and religion. Yes, some are doing it, but not in mass groups that compare with the Nazis, at least not in North America to my knowledge. But let’s talk about consciousness, awareness, duality, non-duality and how this is all just an illusion or video game for a moment. Isn’t that what Leo’s forums are all about? If you have been following Leo’s videos and a few other individuals in these forums you should, by now, be familiar with the higher conscious states of awareness, and that this reality is only a dream state (for lack of better words) and there is no real “Death” per say… We need to stop letting our imaginations, beliefs and fears run ramped, and stop creating the reality you have mentioned in your post with low conscious thoughts and beliefs. Yes, you could say the thoughts and beliefs I am sharing are questionable, but I am not projecting them from fear, but rather from “Love and Compassion”. When you eventually reach a certain level of consciousness, which you will, you will realize that the collective conscious will run it’s course….. What Leo, and many other conscious individuals are trying to do is help awaken enough humans to step out of the conditioned hypnotic state of illusion this planet is in, and to help spread enough Love and Compassion into the collective consciousness to awaken individuals and larger groups to influence our evolution towards God Consciousness. Time is an illusion designed for this reality, and many other physical realities. The Past, Present, and Future are all happening at this moment. Like I said, 4 years (I don't think it will even get beyond 2 years) of Trump, will help awaken more people in America, and this Planet, then electing the Democrat's for the next 8 years! You cannot rush evolution, and sometimes you have to let go of protecting and hovering over your loved ones, and let them make “miss-takes”, (as they say in Hollywood). Our job is to nudge the collective consciousness, (our loved ones, “one”) towards Love, Compassion, Patience, Tolerance, Gratitude, Humbleness, and most importantly, consciousness. The irony of this is that it takes “Time”. Just thoughts and beliefs!

Leo, If the Dem’s win in 2020, the division, hatred, anger, mistrust will continue for a very long, long time. The Dem’s will sweep this all under the carpet, or worse, shame the Blue and Orange SD’s as deplorables, which will either force them to go underground again, or wait for the next opportunity to strike and retaliate. There will be very little healing done on both sides of the fence and the finger pointing, chaos, moral and ethical destruction will continue. Like you have mentioned in some of your SD videos, you can not make the Red, Blue and Orange SD’s see the light, nor can you force it down their throats. Sadly, they are the majority in this physical reality and video game, and we can help them climb up the SD ladder if we let them crash with Trump. This situation is not much different than an addicted gambler. alcoholic, or drug addict, they need to hit rock bottom before there beliefs and thoughts change enough to see what’s happening around them, and more importantly, how it has negatively affected their life. Only then can the healing begin. Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Bernie win and become President, but realistically speaking, he has arrived 4 years to early. 4 more years of Trump is but a split second in the life of human evolution. Just thoughts and beliefs!

It doesn’t matter who you are, or how conscious and awake you are, the laws and rules of this reality apply to all humans. You can “touch” nothingness, “touch” God consciousness, have out of body experiences, travel to other dimensions and dream states, but you will always return to the laws and rules of this physical reality, period. You can delude your self all you want thinking you can escape your historical and present thoughts, beliefs, emotions, traumas, physical and mental behaviours, patterns, needs, wants, desires, diseases without doing the work. The work doesn’t mean just using psychedelics, teacher plants, meditation, and yoga. Once you have experienced and touched nothingness, the void, realized that this is all an illusional, that you are all alone, a state of pure and complete silence you will eventually realize this is just the tip of the iceberg. You are here in this physical reality not only to reach higher levels of consciousness, but also to master the 5 aspects of this physical reality which are the mental, physical, emotional, spiritual and your sexual life force energy (Chi). Being present in the now, fully conscious and awake, enlightened every nano second in this reality of time and space is almost impossible to do without mastering the 5 aspects I have mentioned above. Eckhart Tolle may have mastered the mental and emotional aspects, but he, in all likelihood, has not mastered his physical body, as an example. Osho, Eckhart Tolle, Dalai Lama, Leo, and all the countless other gurus are just as human as you and I are and they must all “master the 5 aspects of physical reality” to be free of any and all attachments and effects of this physical dream state. Anyone that tells you, or leads you to believe that they have “FULLY Embodied God consciousness” is full of shit and is delusional. Just a few thoughts and beliefs!

The nothing I think you are referring to is also something. Some people are confused and think there is only this physical reality and on the other side of the coin there is nothingness. There is more somethingness well beyond or minuscule physical reality. The somethingness beyond our physicalness is infinite. The real you and me is in the somethingness that lives in formlessness( non- physical) (Having no material existence as we understand it) beyond time and space. There are infinite beings with distinct consciousness that live in this somethingness beyond our physical reality. Your psychic, entity, higher self, soul, or whatever you relate to, lives in this somethingness that is also non- physical and beyond our time and space. The somethingness that is in the non- physical can manifest its self with light, sound, electromagnetic energy and infinite other somethings that we here in the physical can never imagine or understand. We are just physical personalities that are extensions from this somethingness that is in the non- physical, which some relate to as our souls. Our souls are distinct beings, which God create to explore what life is and can be in infinite possible directions. Yes, we are God consciousness, but we are so removed from full God consciousness that our physical conscious minds will never fully grasp the full meaning of it. We are Ants living in an Ant community somewhere in a desert, the Ant hill representing our earth, thinking there is only Us and Nothingness. Yet the Earth contains billions of Ant hills, plants, animals, rocks, grians of sand, clouds, weather humans, etc., that us Ants are not aware of. When one of Us goes into nothingness they think they have reached God consciousness and everything there Is, thinking it's just God and just Us.. Don’t get caught up thinking it’s just you/me and God consciousness. There are infinite layers between us in this physical reality, your soul and God. Look beyond the tree and see the forest. Touching nothingness through meditation, psychedelics, or by other means is just the tip of the iceberg. Most people think they have reached God consciousness when they reach the nothingness. You have no idea how far away you still are from touching full God consciousness, meaning, being God. Once you have gotten a taste of nothingness, the real work begins. It begins here in the physical Mastering your Emotions, your Physical reality and body, your conscious physical mind, your sexual life force energy (Chi etc.,) your connection to the real you that lives in the somethingness of non-physical beyond time and space Just thoughts and beliefs.

“Thoughts” are electromagnetic energy units that are created in the formlessness beyond time. When a lot of them come together they form ideas and then beliefs that originate in Formlessness and burst into Form. When they enter through the veil of formlessness into the physical, they create your reality in the physical world. You further strengthen your reality, ideas, and beliefs using your imagination and emotions. Consciousness’, Beingness, and Reality are far more complex then just the black and white discussions I am seeing here in these forums of Duality and non-Duality. Most of you are only seeing the tree, and not the Forest that’s in front of you…. Just sharing some “Thoughts and Beliefs” Respectfully….

I believe the original question was, can Leo claim no other teacher has reached the depths of consciousness and knowledge that he has? I have had many teachers in the last 20 years, read books, immersed myself 6 years into Shamanism and other spiritual teachings, worked with aboriginal healers, and done several Ayahuasca ceremonies. What I have come to learn is that the right teacher, book, spiritual paths, people, plants, animals, and psychedelics will gravitate towards you when you are ready to explore the next level of consciousness and awakening. Every teacher, book, path, person and psychedelic etc. has it’s pros and cons. They can only provide you with the knowledge that resonates with your belief system. The limited conscious physical mind, combined with magnetic-attracting-thoughts and electromagnetic energy field, shape and mold our beliefs. Our beliefs shape our reality. Our reality is then strengthened with our imagination, which then stimulates our emotions. Our emotions further shape and solidifies our beliefs and energy field in the physical. It’s an intemperate circle. Every author, teacher, healer person, etc.. is caught in this circle and can only share with us what they are awakened and conscious of through their belief system. Our concentrated thoughts and beliefs are basically what create our physical reality. Our Physical reality is a very narrow banned width of conscious sound, light and electromagnetic frequencies and waves of energy. When I break through the veil of physical consciousness into nothingness, the void or miniscule aspects of God consciousness using a psychedelic or through meditation, I return to this limited reality struggling to translate my experience into symbols, such as words and images that my physical conscious mind can grasp and retain. These symbols are interpreted and integrated by my human conscious mind and by my belief system, which then further create my conscious physical reality. So, to answer your question, can Leo claim no other teacher has reached the depths of consciousness and knowledge that he has? Yes and no. His physical conscious mind, thoughts and beliefs are his. They maybe similar to other humans, but they are unique and distinctly his. That’s the beauty and gift that God has created. It’s neither right or wrong, more or less. It just is. We all have our distinct beliefs, thoughts, and conscious levels, which others may or may not have similarly accessed or reached. There are many conscious beings that have touched great depts of awareness that have decided not to share their wisdom with the masses. They tend to share only with select beings that are open and can resonate with the knowledge. Leo, like a few others, has decided to take a chance and courageously shares his wisdom and knowledge to the masses, knowing full well that he will be opening himself to all levels of consciousness on the Spiral Dynamic hierarchy, which may, or may not resonate with the knowledge. Having said that, he does have a profound amount of knowledge and consciousness that can and will resonate with many students. We are all students! Even the great masters were students in physical reality, until some of them were able to direct there magnetic-attracting-thoughts, from the physical conscious mind, towards other physical and non-physical states of beingness. Not to confuses anyone, what I have learned over the years is that the Ego is more or less your belief system. It is a narrow-focused form of physical mind consciousness (for lack of better words) that allow us to create this physical reality. The Ego (a misguided label we have given it) is a segment of confined focused consciousness that has been created by God for Beings to penetrate and explore physical reality, experience distinctness, objects and other limited forms of consciousness in physical form. The more you focus your attention to one belief, or field of thought, the narrower your world becomes and the more inclined you are to suffering and dwelling in the lower stages of Spiral Dynamics. The more consciousness you bring into your field of thoughts, Ego, physical conscious mind, the more you become aware of how your deep seeded beliefs affect and create your reality. Just a few thoughts and beliefs!